One Transfer Is Plenty For Jake Kelly
For those not keeping up on the FanPosts, we got some strange news yesterday originating from Hawkeye Nation--that Jake Kelly was strongly considering a return to the Iowa Hawkeyes.
While players leaving a school, then transferring back isn't unheard of, it's just about always done with a junior college, and for academic reasons (Amari Spievey, Shonn Greene, hello). Rarer than a mooing steak, however, is the transfer from one D-I school to another, then back to the first a year later.
But then, nothing about Kelly's college experience has been usual as of late, his career firmly lodged in the dourest of minor keys for the last year and a half. Just a recap:
- Lost his mother in a plane crash
- Had to play for the 2008-2009 Hawkeyes
- Transferred to Indiana State
- Shredded his ACL 12 games into the season
- Realized, outside of basketball, how much worse Indiana State is than Iowa
Not good. Hence, the rumors. Now, there was an immediacy to it all; transfer restrictions and Iowa's academic schedule meant that Kelly had to decide on Thursday whether he'd be moving back; he eventually said no and reaffirmed that his move to Indiana State was the right one. So it goes.
We don't think, by the way, that Jon Miller's reporting wasn't factual or a misrepresentation; we're sure that, at the time, there was a real sense that Kelly could return and that the reporting had begun before Kelly had made up his mind. We do wonder if word getting out to the press--whose natural instinct it is to poke and prod for answers--before Kelly's mind was made up had anything to do with his eventual decision. It likely wasn't a determining factor in his decision (and even if it were, he sure wouldn't admit it), but for someone with so many fresh scars on his personal life, it probably didn't help.
A completely separate issue with Hawkeye Nation's handling of the story was the behavior of the fans in the thread. While they're even less likely to be a factor in Kelly's decision to return--it's not like he said, "tough decision; I'd better check Hawkeye Internet Tough Guy Central first, they have the good advice"--it was dismaying to see such a wide gap in opinion on Kelly's possible return. Most of the static came from two main factors:
- He sucks at sports/he's of no help to the team
- HE TURNED HIS BACK ON THIS GREAT AND PROUD TEAM
While 1 is a semi-valid criticism (recall, Kelly's recovering from a serious knee injury), it's not as if Kelly would be buried behind John Lickliter on the depth chart or anything when he'd have regained eligibility. He was starting for a, ahem, better Iowa team in 2008, and performing at as a high level as anyone on the team. Further, his experience with the Lickliter offense would have been a major plus; we've already seen what happens when true freshmen are pressed into duty at the point, after all. It ends badly.
More troubling was #2, the notion that Iowa wouldn't--or, rather, shouldn't welcome him back. Several posters openly and explicitly wished that members of the team would shun Kelly if he wanted to come back. And that struck us as odd, because it's not at all shared by, y'know, actual members of the team:
"I still have a lot of friends back there," [Kelly] said. "I suppose that's where the talk comes from."
Kelly, who denied initial rumors that he was leaving Iowa last year, has not spoken with Iowa coach Todd Lickliter since his departure. However, he has talked in recent weeks with former teammates Matt Gatens and Jarryd Cole.
Gatens said he spoke with Kelly last week, talking to him primarily about his injury.
"I wanted to let him know I was hoping for the best for him," Gatens said. "He is a great player, a good friend and a good teammate. It would be great to have him back. I've heard the same rumors you guys have heard, but I don't think he's made a decision or anything like that."
Cole, who suffered an ACL injury two years ago, said his discussion with Kelly centered around their common injury and the rehabilitation Cole went through on his way back to the court.
"We didn't talk about a transfer, but if he would come back, great. If not, we'll still be the Hawkeyes," Cole said.
So, there's two possibilities here with Internet Tough Guys taking the concept of Hawkeye loyalty more seriously than the actual Hawkeyes:
1) Iowa does not have a satisfactory sense of team pride or commitment to the program. If that's your position, then you're effectively calling Gatens and Cole--the team's best player and one of the two team captains--treasonous little weasels. Nothing at all they've done on or off the court otherwise would support that case. It's stupid and awful.
2) More likely, these people have nothing better to do than to dramatically overstate the importance of Hawkeye sports in their lives and the world as a whole. Seriously, Kelly lost his mother--who had just moved from Indiana to Solon to be close to him--and needed to be closer to his family, and you wouldn't let him back on your favorite team after a year of whatever he's going through? Then you, sirs, need to be bitten by a brown recluse directly on your genitals, because that's an awful stance to take--especially against someone who's clearly looking for a way to turn around a college career that has been caked in metric tons of pain (both emotional and physical) so far.
We don't know if Kelly would have been happier back here than at Indiana State. We do know that the kid deserves an ounce of happiness in his senior season, because nobody deserves his last 18 months. Maybe not even happiness. Just peace. Hope he finds it somewhere soon.
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Thank you, OPS.
I’ve been a HawkeyeNation poster since 2005, and my patience with the sewer floor-dwelling, utter fucking retards who frequent it has grown gossamer-thin. There was that idiotic fringe element at the Scout site too (never been to the Rivals/Lounge/whatever sites), but it felt a little less insane and less vociferous. Once Jon took the site independent it became really… well, less good. It’s become like a more highly-populated New Freeland over there – full of radical nutjobs and semiliterate clods. The problem isn’t with the site itself or its content (and I can’t stress this enough) – Jon actually does an excellent job, as do his contributors (most notably Storminspank of course [who is brilliant and clearly has his head/heart in the right place], and the Other Guy Who Does a Great Job With Football Breakdowns Whose Name I Forget – Patrick or something); it’s the growing majority of the commentariat that make it more and more like a less-tragically funny CycloneFanatic every day. It’s a shame, really. I’m slowly starting to ween myself away, and use it largely for info/content only as opposed to participating in the threads.
The reactions to the possibility of Jake’s return and the embarrassingly un-Iowan lack of compassion therein has kinda’ been the last straw for me. The growing radical rightwing tone was pushing me away to begin with, but the callous nature of many of the posters really makes me not even want to be there at all anymore. I don’t want my pseudonym associated with that; I want it associated with the higher-primate thinking and writing that exists here.
Anyway. It’s been frustrating to witness its decline, as I used to really, really enjoy it. Thank fucking god for BHGP.
MORE ZAZZ! I DEMAND MORE ZAZZ!
Thank god for BHGP
It allowed me to forget that the Hawk’s Nest Online even existed.
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Jan 15, 2010 8:42 AM CST up reply actions
Couldn't agree more
I tended to stay away from any Iowa related blog until I found BHGP because I couldn’t handle listening to the idiocy of the people who were allowed to comment on stories. I got a little worried when membership here seemed to be exploding, there’s no way I wanted to see such a masterpiece get shit all over by moronic posters.
They took the bar, the whole fucking bar!
by recoveringfratguy on Jan 15, 2010 8:46 AM CST up reply actions
You should just start posting the naked mole rat...
…whenever someone says something idiotic.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jan 15, 2010 9:47 AM CST up reply actions
No. That's just for us.
MORE ZAZZ! I DEMAND MORE ZAZZ!
by Bucketochicken on Jan 15, 2010 9:48 AM CST up reply actions
Like Vagina Bear, Naked Mole Rat must be earned.
MORE ZAZZ! I DEMAND MORE ZAZZ!
by Bucketochicken on Jan 15, 2010 9:50 AM CST up reply actions
The Rivals site is only marginally better, if at all.
It’s useful for news and scoop (the admins over there do good work) and (occasionally) rumors, but for everything else it’s largely a cesspool. Such is the perils of keeping things free. Thankfully, the equally-free BHGP has largely managed to avoid the mouth-breathers (or just banhammered the ones that did turn up) as our popularity has grown… hopefully that remains true.
Although the wrestling board is also good. So it has a few things going for it.
Big junkies come from little junkies.
Question on the banhammer
Can you only ban by username or can you ban by IP Address or something to be much more effective?
I don't think WE can ban by IP, per se
But I’ve seen it happen on the network before. And we can also see who else on that IP is a registered member of the site.
Seriously, though, we’ve banned, like, 5 Iowa fans. Ever. And it seems like most of them were trying to get us to do it.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Adam Jacobi on Jan 15, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
Same at BSD.
Mike has had to ban an ND troll who pretended to be a USC fan who praised ND fans and bashed PSU fans (Imagine an Iowa fan pretending to be an Ohio State fan so he can bash Minnesota fans. Creepy), BlockONation (who’s like the teenagers who cheat on Call of Duty multiplayer and use English copied from an industrial worker in Scotland in the 1830s), several other Ohio State trolls. And one Penn State fan.
All in all, I think SBN has a very good commentariat.
by ReadingRambler on Jan 15, 2010 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
I think the very nature of this site and its commenters
tends to disuade potential trolls. It’s too… I dunno, intelligent here for their schtick to be too effective. I think they just sorta get bored and leave.
MORE ZAZZ! I DEMAND MORE ZAZZ!
by Bucketochicken on Jan 15, 2010 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
That may be true, but watching OPS put an idiot in their place is pretty fantastic.
I imagine it also helps to dissuade more morons from coming out of the shadows. I’m certain that BHGP has tons of lurkers.
by The Mexican't on Jan 15, 2010 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
Great Post
It’s too bad that he’s not coming back to Iowa. I know a lot of people were mad that he left, and that he was just another player in the growing list of athletes leaving the basketball team under Lickliter. But after all he went through, you can’t blame him for wanting to be closer to family (same with Tyler Smith)
I would have loved to see him back in Carver leading the team. They need help, and he certainly would have provided that.
Good luck with the knee rehab Jake!
by HeroPatriotStanzi on Jan 15, 2010 9:34 AM CST reply actions
Well Stated
I have been coming here since I went back to Gazette Online and Hlas and Morehouse started talking about BHGP. I have stayed because of the sanity (though borne of insanity) that ultimately prevails. Yeah, I have to hide the screen if the family’s around for the language, but they know Dad gets a little goofy when it comes to his alma mater anyway. Finally started commenting a day or two ago.
As far as I’m concerned, the young man gets a pass on this and whatever else he needs to do to find some comfort, security and peace.
Unless he left town
giving Iowa the finger and talking trash, he’s welcome back.
It’s not like he went to Iowa State, or even another Big XI team. Even then, considering the circumstances, he would deserve, at WORST a polite “No, thank you.”
Best of luck to him.
In 100 years, we'll all be dead.
Nailed it
“More likely, these people have nothing better to do than to dramatically overstate the importance of Hawkeye sports in their lives and the world as a whole.”
Welcome to the lives of about 90% of fans of sports teams and, well, most anything. Fanatic is about right.
by TheDutchFlounder on Jan 15, 2010 10:01 AM CST reply actions
He needs to stay in Indiana
I can sense the kid is really frustrated and pained. It seems his production was down from when he was at Iowa and that might be the source of any frustration that even led him to consider a return to Iowa. But, if not for the injury, I am sure he would have almost certainly found his niche there. I hope he gets healthy and finds happiness there.
"And on the seventh day God rested. That’s when he asked me to take over."
He may have also just missed the friends he made in Iowa City, too.
I imagine back at Indiana State he just has new friends and (maybe) some high school friends… I know when I went to college my circle of friends changed pretty rapidly and he may have found that he doesn’t have as much in common with those HS friends anymore. And while family is great (and probably very needed/appreciated with all the shit he’s been through), he’s also at the age when people tend to want to break free from family, too. So I can definitely understand why he’d want to come back.
I hope he manages to get healthy and find some happiness somewhere — he deserves it.
Big junkies come from little junkies.
This is a case in point for Ferentz's worldview with college athletes
they are highly emotional. Thus Ferentz needs to counterbalance that. Imagine how it must be to be coached my Lane Kiffin. It’s like a codependent relationship on steriods.
"And on the seventh day God rested. That’s when he asked me to take over."
by StoopsMyAss on Jan 15, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
Apparently
Lane Kiffin’s idea of motivating Tennessee players, was to tell them how great USC was.
If only half of that stuff is true, that’s still just sad.
In 100 years, we'll all be dead.
As an Iowa that attended Indiana State,
Terre Haute is far worse than reported. Each student has their own reasons for going to school there. Most just love the noxious mix of tainted air from the paper mill/creasote factory.
My reason was that I knew the dangers lurking in Iowa City. Graduation was not a possibility when faced with a football team that won more than one game every three years or girls with teeth and/or all four limbs. Outside of seminary school, it was the one place where studying was the best available option.
I sincerely hope Jake finds what he is looking for in Terre Haute and makes the most of his college experience, Mend quickly, my Sycamore brother!
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