BlogpLOL Week Four: Rage Against the Machine
So, yeah, that really happened. Iowa really beat the fourth-ranked Nittany Lions of Penn State 21-10 in Happy Valley on national television. It was Iowa's first road win against a top-5 opponent since dispatching the Fighting Illini in Champaign during the 1990 season. The nation is on notice: Iowa is a contender for the Big Ten championship and a bona fide player on the national stage.
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| Rank | Team | Delta |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Florida | 10 |
| 2 | Texas | 2 |
| 3 | Alabama | 4 |
| 4 | Iowa | 15 |
| 5 | Virginia Tech | 8 |
| 6 | Cincinnati | 5 |
| 7 | Oklahoma | 1 |
| 8 | Nebraska | 12 |
| 9 | Michigan | 13 |
| 10 | Boise State | 4 |
| 11 | Kansas | 4 |
| 12 | LSU | 4 |
| 13 | Oregon | |
| 14 | Auburn | 9 |
| 15 | Ohio State | |
| 16 | Houston | 2 |
| 17 | California | 15 |
| 18 | Oklahoma State | |
| 19 | Brigham Young | |
| 20 | Missouri | 11 |
| 21 | Georgia | |
| 22 | South Carolina | |
| 23 | North Carolina State | |
| 24 | Arizona | |
| 25 | Connecticut | |
| Last week's ballot | ||
Tackle Eligible: Penn State, Pitt, TCU, USC, UCLA, South Florida
Watched: Missouri-Nevada, Minnesota-Northwesern, Ohio State-Illinois, Iowa-Penn State
Well, at least most of the nation is on notice. The exceptions, of course, are the people who actually decide the national championship: The coaches' poll, which is a determining factor in the Bowl Championship Series, ranked Iowa 4 points behind a team it beat in the most hostile of environments for reasons passing understanding. It's not the only egregious fuckup by the coaches this week, either: Oregon, which just finished curbstomping Cal, is six -- SIX -- spots behind the Golden Bears. Houston, which beat Oklahoma State 3 weeks ago and has yet to lose, is nevertheless 2 places behind the Cowboys.
Aggregate polls, by definition, have some internal inconsistency. The USA Today poll is no different: getting a consensus from 59 coaches is tough enough, and when Tim Brewster is voting "grilled cheese sandwiches" as #2, it's downright impossible. But inconsistency should not excuse widespread ignorance. The AP poll was able to place Iowa 2 spots ahead of Penn State despite the ballots of morons like Jay Tate (who put Iowa 11 spots behind PSU) and Desmond Conner (10 places). Outliers should be killed by those on the other side and the weight of the meaty center, as we can see from the AP poll. Unfortunately, there is apparently no consensus among the coaches or, if there is, it goes to bed early. What you get, then, is something void of logic or reason or common sense or a basic understanding of what happened Saturday. That this is the basis of our championship determination is beyond wrong. It's tragic.
Conformity is coming; stability is sure to follow. Florida ascends to the top spot, not only for their ridiculous margin of victory but for their vastly improved strength of schedule; all three of the Gators' previous opponents won Saturday, and Florida dispatched of 2-0 Kentucky with ease. Texas is nearly identical to UF, with a slightly better schedule and slightly less impressive results. Alabama takes the third spot more for internal consistency than actual results; Virginia Tech scores huge with a 3-1 mark against the toughest schedule in the poll, and Alabama has to be higher than the Hokies until their alleged superiority is proven false.
Which brings us to the #4 Iowa Hawkeyes. As I said last week, if we were ignoring victory margin Iowa would almost certainly be the top team in the poll. They remain the only undefeated team in the country whose opponents are 12-0 against other opposition. They are one of only two undefeated teams (along with LSU) to have defeated three BCS conference opponents. They have won two of their four games on the road, including the only road win ever in a Happy Valley whiteout. If you take out the preseason rankings and look solely at performance, Iowa has unquestionably played the most difficult slate of the 4-0 undefeateds.
Cincinnati drops from the top spot to #6, as their schedule strength dropped with the addition of 1-3 Fresno State and losses by Oregon State and Southeast Missouri State. The eight-point win over Fresno wasn't enough to overcome that dip. It's impossible to untangle the Oklahoma-BYU-Florida State-Miami-Virginia Tech-USF knot, and I'm not going to try; I still hate the Sooners' placement in the top 10, but the numbers speak for themselves. Nebraska and Michigan make big moves up. NU does it on the basis of three big wins over lesser opposition and a near-miss against Virginia Tech. The Wolverines capitalize on an undefeated mark against an 8-7 schedule void of I-AA opposition. Boise State rounds out the top 10, boosted by Oregon's performance against Cal, but still knocked for a schedule-to-date playing at a disappointing 5-11.
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That’s what I get for reading the postgame comments at BSD.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Sep 29, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Isn't it a little inconsistant
to drop Penn State out of the 25 completely but then boost Iowa 15 spots up for beating what you now consider to be an unranked team? This is just a philosophy question, really, I’m not arguing with your actual ranks, but it’s almost as if you’re giving Iowa credit for beating the #4 team and then turning around and punishing PSU for being beat by an unranked team, I feel like you should pick one or the other.
BSD
I'm with Kevin
I would imagine that Penn State’s schedule/MoV, though weak, has to be on par with the likes of NC State and UConn, at least.
by The Mexican't on Sep 29, 2009 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I can help on this one
1) We had artificially pushed Iowa down pretty far last week in order to avoid C/K shenanigans; those figure to come less into play vs. ASU. That Iowa moves up 15 here is partially a correction of that earlier one-off deviation from the formula.
2) PSU was already at 24 to begin with. HS can clarify, but by the looks of his Tackle Eligible list, we think PSU only dropped two spots. That it was from 24-26 is just an unfortunate coincidence.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
Yeah, OPS has it right.
We never had PSU ranked that high, mostly because their schedule is so, so bad. They were #24 last week, and the loss really didn’t hurt them that much because it lifted their SOS (PSU’s schedule was 2-6 entering the week, and 8-7 after it). Iowa had been #11 in the spreadsheet last week, but I wasn’t going to get bitten by karma and moved them down. Essentially they moved up 7 spots for beating yet another otherwise-undefeated opponent and solidifying their SOS superiority (that all changes this week; Arkansas State has already lost twice).
As for the argument for PSU against NC State/UConn, Mexican’t is correct: There’s not much difference. UConn’s schedule is 8-6 (though the Huskies have won two road games), and their only loss was by 2 points to North Carolina. There is a I-AA in there, as well, albeit a blowout. NC State’s schedule is 9-6 (yes, with TWO I-AA’s, which essentially makes their schedule 9-9 in our calculation), but the win over a 3-1 Pitt team we previously had in the top 15 moved them ahead. PSU is exactly one point behind both of those teams in the calculation.
After reading that, I’m not sure we’re doing enough about I-AA’s; the adjustment we were using seemed proper early in the season, but is now somewhat miniscule in the context of the number of points scored and games played (it’s still enough to keep USF out, strangely enough). You’re correct, that might require some adjustment.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Sep 29, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions
On behalf of all Michigan fans
Please do not fudge your rankings next week to avoid the CK award. Our defense needs all the karmic help it can get.
by Yinka Double Dare on Sep 29, 2009 10:35 AM CDT reply actions
Huh?
I don’t hang out here as frequently as I should, so I don’t know what “C/K shenanigans” means, unless it’s the name of a new, sexually ambiguous cologne.
"Sweet lady fate, why dost thou piss on me so?"
Coulter/Kos Award
Given to the Blogpoll voter who is the most shameless homer of the week (ranking his or her team furthest ahead of poll consensus). The award seems to have dire consequences – this year’s winners are 0-4 in the following week (and are about .250 overall since the poll began).
Nebraska gets the CK award, but has a bye
so BHGP gets the “adjusted” CK award. That can’t be good, can it? I’m hoping the only punishment is that they don’t beat the spread, winning by only 14 or something. On garbage time TD’s by Ark St.
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Sep 30, 2009 10:08 PM CDT reply actions
You deserve your moment in the sun certainly...
But Iowa is not the #4 team. This is a team that beat Northern Iowa 17-16 and was outgained. Earned a gutsy win on the road at PSU thanks to turnovers, but still failed to get 300 yards on offense.
And really, ya think the #4 team is going to beat the #15 team when they play? Cause I’ll take that bet. Iowa will be lucky to get 5 first downs in that game against that D.
U R DOIN IT RONG
Obviously your first visit here in a while. Read the links to the previous BlogPolls, bLOLckeye fan.
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Oct 1, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions



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