BlogpLOL Week Three: The Aftershock
"Christ, you know it ain't easy
You know how hard it can be
The way things are going
They're gonna crucify me."
-- John Lennon, The Ballad of John and Yoko
Two weeks ago, Southern Cal had reloaded again behind center, BYU was a potential national championship contender, and Washington just couldn't get over the hump. Since then, all three statements have been proven false. The immediate effects of the big upsets of the first three weeks are obvious. The bigger effects, however, are generally ignored by everyone but the resume rankers.
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| Rank | Team | Delta |
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| 1 | Cincinnati | |
| 2 | California | |
| 3 | Mississippi | |
| 4 | Texas | 1 |
| 5 | Auburn | 9 |
| 6 | Oklahoma | |
| 7 | Alabama | 8 |
| 8 | LSU | 14 |
| 9 | Missouri | 3 |
| 10 | Miami (Florida) | |
| 11 | Florida | 6 |
| 12 | Pittsburgh | 6 |
| 13 | Virginia Tech | |
| 14 | Boise State | 4 |
| 15 | Kansas | 6 |
| 16 | Clemson | |
| 17 | North Carolina | |
| 18 | Houston | |
| 19 | Iowa | 6 |
| 20 | Nebraska | 16 |
| 21 | Washington | |
| 22 | Michigan | |
| 23 | Wisconsin | 1 |
| 24 | Penn State | 8 |
| 25 | Arizona State | |
| Last week's ballot | ||
Tackle Eligible: Kentucky, South Florida, Texas Tech, TCU, Arizona, Southern Cal
Watched: Miami-Georgia Tech, Iowa-Arizona, Auburn-West Virginia, parts of Minnesota-Cal and Texas-Texas Tech, Point Break x 4.
Southern Cal's upset loss at Washington over the weekend effectively ended its run for a national championship and vaulted the Huskies into the top 25, but it also gives us a better idea of just how good Ohio State might be. Both OSU and Washington played USC under similar circumstances: at home, in September, with hyped quarterbacks returning under center. But where Pryor stumbled against the Southern Cal defense, Locker shone. There were other factors, to be sure: USC was playing its backup quarterback (though, contrary to the MSM's convenient storyline, Barkley did not play any better against Ohio State than Corp played against UW), and the SC-UW postgame statistics were ready-made for Life on the Margins. But the Washington upset showed how it could be done, and only reinforces the position that Ohio State in general, and Pryor in particular, aren't yet ready to finish that job.
Florida State's thumping of BYU ended the Cougars' nascent insurgent run for a national championship in the crib, but it should also kill Oklahoma and boost Miami. Relying on the transient transitive property to guide the way in college football is always dangerous, even if The U > FSU > BYU > OU has a certain simplicity to it (we'll get to Oklahoma's place in the poll later); one need look no further than the 10/3 OU/Miami game to see where the logic could break down. There is one obvious upshoot from the Florida State win: If Southern Cal's three-point road loss to a 2-1 team that played LSU to a near-draw and slaughtered Idaho disqualifies it from a national championship, OU's one-point neutral-site loss to a team which subsequently got curbstomped by Florida State should do the same. Of course, Oklahoma's loss came to a preseason top 25 team earlier in the year, while Southern Cal's was at the hands of a team that went winless through last year. As said before in this space, preseason rankings count. It doesn't matter whether those preseason perceptions were wrong. If OU makes it to November with only that loss, all its sins will be forgotten.
The poll remains a mess, as data continues to compile and strength of schedule slowly overtakes victory margin in importance. Cincinnati and California retain the top two spots by a healthy margin; both teams have three double-digit victories over a plus-.500 schedule, something no other team can claim. We took one of last week's criticisms to heart and factored in the number of games played, giving Ole Miss' two games slightly more weight than their three-game counterparts. That took them from outside the poll to #3, even though Texas, Auburn, and Oklahoma have more poll points.
About the Sooners: One-loss teams are only now under consideration, and Oklahoma's numbers vaulted them into the top 6. Yeah, I don't like it either. It can't even be explained away by the Sam Bradford Injury Effect; the BHGPoll is blind to such factors. But OU's schedule is a somewhat respectable 4-5 (at least somewhat respectable when compared to other contenders like Florida, Boise State, and Kansas). Teams pay dearly for losses in the equation, but Boomer Sooner's one-point loss to BYU isn't enough to overcome its +108 margin against that schedule; only Florida, South Florida, and Cincinnati have higher margins through three weeks, and only the Bearcats have anything approaching Oklahoma's schedule to date. It's true that Oklahoma is ranked higher than Florida State, who crushed BYU over the weekend. I don't necessarily agree with it, but it's the downside of this early-season insanity.
Speaking of strength of schedule, our admittedly crude SOS figure (which will get far more sophisticated as we hit October and get some numbers to play with) props up Virginia Tech and Washington, both of which have played early-season juggernauts and picked up a loss along the way. It also punishes USF, which has racked up a gaudy 3-0 mark and +114 margin, but against two DI-AA opponents and 0-3 Western Kentucky. Both Tech and Washington are 2-1 against opponents that are a combined 7-2; in other words, their opponents are undefeated in all games not involving them. Only one 3-0 squad can claim the same feat...
I am unflinchingly strict in my application of the rules -- this poll has taken enough heat that its intellectual foundation must be preserved -- but I had to make one exception this week, because the one 3-0 team whose opponents are otherwise undefeated is the Iowa Hawkeyes. Their 6-3 strength of schedule, even with the discount for a lower-division opponent, was enough to vault Iowa to #11. Had they not given up the last-minute garbage score to Arizona (and before you even say it: I know this shows some of the absurdity of using margin of victory), Iowa had enough points to leapfrog Oklahoma into the #6 spot.
I moved them down to #19, for no reason other than it's Penn State week and I'm not risking the Coulter-Krugman Award jinx. Reason and logic only go so far in the face of karma.
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My high school biology teacher gave an extra credit point whenever someone noticed that he made a mistake.

by geekfootnerdball on Sep 21, 2009 1:13 PM CDT reply actions
Wow, that was stupid.
I can’t tell if it’s because I haven’t taken pre-algebra in almost 2 decades or because I was writing that at 6:00 am. Thanks.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Sep 21, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Part of me hates how you're doing this
but part of me is giddy with the possibility that, when it’s all said and done, your poll will be much closer to the voter polls, sans the bias that creeps in from preseason expectations.
Looking at it now, Cincinnati is the only pick that stands out as wacky, but that’ll get sorted out in short order. Unless, of course, Cincy goes undefeated and only your poll would put them in the MNC game while the rest of the “real” polls have them below 1-loss BCS teams. In which case you will have proven your superiority to all mortal men.
Glad to hear you won't be tempting the CK award karma demons.
It’s dominance over the blogpoll is creepy.
Inconsistent
I like how you point out the weakness of the transitive property of equality outside of mathematics in the second part of the post after using that very property to judge OSU. Didn’t the two Oregon State loses and the Stanford game teach you not to read too much into these USC road loses in the Pac-10? Last year USC lost to Oregon State two games after Oregon State was slaughtered by Penn State. USC still won 11+ games every year they had a big upset loss.
Also the rationale of Corp having a better game against Washington than Barkley vs OSU meaning Barkley being out wasn’t a factor is dubious at best. Maybe the difference was the defense they played? USC going rushing for 7 ypc against one team and 3 ypc against the other might have hinted at that.
Also there is no doubt that Locker played much better than Pryor. But the biggest difference in the game is something you didn’t mention, USC fumbled twice against Washington, and zero times against OSU. But I guess being “ready to finish that job” is the more logical explanation.
Awwww... isn't that cute?
The OSU fan doesn’t like criticism (surprise, surprise).
Tell us jOsey, since you’re a fan of the Nuts, who did you find to read this post to you? Maybe you and the other Nut-lovers should stop worrying about what Hawk fans have to say (just like a Nut fan, you’ve made it clear that you think you’re above us) and worry about the Big Ten schedule.
You sir/ma’am are a Troll.
By the way, Tyler Durden Sash will love your Arm-punter.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Sep 22, 2009 9:03 AM CDT reply actions
Don't feed the troll. Let it find another bridge.
by jebushchrist on Sep 22, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
God...
after what we did en masse to the USC (The Cock variety – Garnet & Black) blog site at bowl time last year, i don’t think anyone on this blog can ever use the term troll again. But then again, I think I like to troll.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. --Albert Einstein
The Arizona Wildcats would probably agree.
by The Mexican't on Sep 22, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
i couldn't resist...
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. --Albert Einstein
I stopped by to see how they felt about the game
And checked out the preview, only to see that you’d upset a few. It didn’t seem too malicious, I was surprised they got so upset.
by The Mexican't on Sep 22, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm always good for
a healthy dose of sarcasm, usually one fact-based dig into the solar plexus, and then something fabricated and utterly offensive…unlike the cocks, they had zero sense of humor. Besides, 90% of their posts are by one guy, and he edits the site. It’s like a echo monument to his free time and love of the Swarm.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. --Albert Einstein
Looks like Pat Forde
is making an attempt at resume ranking.
Different criteria than HS but similar principle.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&page=dash0904&sportCat=ncf
Fuck tOSU



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