It's Not Plagiarism If You Link To It Is Talking About Practice. Not a Game. Practice.
by Hawkeye State on Aug 17, 2009 8:19 AM CDT
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Because Every Day is Kids Day. Some significant news out of Saturday's "Kids Day" open practice:
The Walking Wounded. Brace yourselves: Jewel Hampton's knee is bothering him again. Hampton didn't practice Saturday and, while he was in attendance and walking the sidelines with nothing more than a sleeve on the knee, Morehouse notes he wasn't moving well. We have yet to hear anyone claim Hampton will miss any playing time as a result of the injury, but this is the third time in 6 months that he's injured the same knee and missed practice time.
Now that you are sitting down, it's time for part 2: Bryan Bulaga didn't practice either (though he ran sprints), and Kyle Calloway didn't scrimmage (though he took part in pre-scrimmage drills). Bulaga hurt his knee earlier in the week, though it doesn't sound serious. Calloway has been out through most of camp with runner's knee; again, the injury probably isn't any more a threat to his playing time than a 6-pack and a scooter.
As if that wasn't enough, Brandon Wegher, Colin Sandeman, Chris Rowell, Steve Bigach, Marty Hopkins, Conor Boffeli, and Scott Covert didn't suit up. The first four of those are expected to play (Wegher is unofficially the frontrunner for kick and punt returner). The others aren't likely to factor into this season. Of course, one of the many things Kirk Ferentz took from his days with Belichick is notorious secrecy on the injury front; there isn't much information on any of these.
Fun With Depth Charts. Well, that was inevitable: Christian Ballard has moved to defensive tackle, making way for Broderick Binns to start at defensive end. This would be wholly unsurprising if defensive line coach Rick "Here Comes The Polish Cavalry" Kascenski hadn't lied to everyone for 6 months about the possibility of moving a defensive end to tackle. Expect the press to have a field day with this one, and by that I mean the press will participate in a 100-yard dash, then drink juice boxes provided by the coaching staff and watch Schoolhouse Rock until they can go home at 3:00.
In other news, Morehouse is declaring the backup quarterback battle over, with James Vandenberg as the winner:
Vandenberg is the No. 2 QB. During the two-minute drill, the No. 2 unit flopped badly. Vandenberg was given a second chance to make something happen, showing the reps aren’t even with him and Wienke.
As an untrained observer, I though Vandenberg looked far more game-ready, though both he and Wienke spent most of their time running from defensive linemen who had broken through the makeshift second-team offensive line. Also, despite a clear improvement in leg strength by Trent Mossbrucker, it looks like Daniel Murray's inexplicable Svengali-like hold on the placekicking job has held up through the summer. Ferentz mentioned after the practice that Mossbrucker might redshirt if he doesn't win the job, which would be smart.
Alcohol Fascism, Thy Name is Goldy. Minnesota really knows how to build atmosphere: Students with an alcohol-related offense will be Breathalyzed before being allowed into Legendary Historic TCF Bank Stadium (and, yeah, that's what we're going to call it from now on):
When the TCF Bank Stadium opens in less than two months, the University of Minnesota plans to implement a system to deter alcohol-related problems by administering breathalyzers to prior offenders.
The program, called "Check BAC" - as in blood alcohol content - is just one of the many steps the University and police are taking to prepare for the inevitable trouble that will come with bringing football back to campus. University police have been travelling around the Big Ten looking for advice on alcohol enforcement and traffic control to get ready.
Check BAC is modeled after a University of Wisconsin-Madison program. If a student is caught for underage consumption or ejected from the stadium for public intoxication, they are automatically enrolled in the program. If the student comes back to a game that same season, they will be required to provide a breath sample on a portable breath tester.
If they are underage and have alcohol in their system, they will not be allowed entry into the game. Even if they are of age, depending on their level on intoxication, they might not be admitted into the stadium.
As if it weren't enough, UM will also build gameday atmosphere by cracking down on the one thing that didn't exist at the Metrodome: tailgating. Fortunately, the Minnesota legislature (motto: "Thank God we got rid of Ventura") made sure they didn't go overboard:
The University has also created specific tailgating rules that outline where and how tailgating will be acceptable. Earlier this year the University went to the state Legislature hoping to gain authority to create and enforce their own criminal ordinances, which would allow University police to create specific laws that pertain to tailgating.
The bill was not passed, so any violations of the University's tailgating rules will be a civil matter and will involve the Office for Student Conduct and Academic Integrity for University students.
Of course, these Draconian measures only apply to students attending Minnesota games. I'm sure both of them will be royally pissed.
Footnotes:
- We aren't the only team with injuries: PSU wideout linebacker Pat Mike Mauti tore his ACL, leaving the Lions even lighter at receiver linebacker. Also, OSU-nee-Michigan lineman/resident crybaby douchebag Justin Boren was injured when he tried to force his giant neck into an undersized shirt and was struck in the eye by the flying top button (OK, I made the last part up, but he's hurt and that picture is ridiculous).
- Clone Chronicles makes its predictions for the upcoming season. The conclusion?
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PSU's Mauti
PSU wideout Pat Mauti is not injured……because he doesn’t exist. However, PSU linebacker Mike Mauti did tear his ACL. Fret not about the PSU WR depth (or lack thereof) – WE HAVE GRAHAM ZUG. (And a few linebackers who can take Mauti’s place, too.)
Well, he existed
http://www.gopsusports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/mauti_patrick00.html
Damn it. Correction forthcoming.
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by Hawkeye State on Aug 17, 2009 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Their brothers
Pat is a walk on at WR.
Losing Mike is tough in that he’s probably our #3 linebacker. But most teams in the Big Ten would probably love to poach one of our reserves as their starter, so overally PSU will be ok. Especially with Bowman and Lee on the field. Most likely you’ll see Josh Hull back in the middle where he played every game last year.
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
They're....not their
When will someone make a spell checker that can catch stuff like that?
Mike
Black Shoe Diaries
Actually
You were right the first time.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Aug 17, 2009 5:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Oops, you're right.
I thought he was referring to the “their” in the second sentence of the second paragraph where it is used correctly. Completely forgot about the subject line.
/grammar fascism
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
my bad
And at some point maybe I could actually refer to a roster and see that Pat Mauti DOES exist. My apologies to the very existent future WR star, Mr. Mauti, and thanks to BSD Mike for setting the record straight.
Nice, glad to see Broderick getting the start at DE.
I think we’re getting the best players on the field in this rotation. I think Ballard is better at the point of attack, yet Binns may be a little better at getting to the passer.
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FIELD DAY...
Expect the press to have a field day with this one, and by that I mean the press will participate in a 100-yard dash, then drink juice boxes provided by the coaching staff and watch Schoolhouse Rock until they can go home at 3:00.
I recall the field days of my early grade school experience. We had a nice hill on the school’s property, and the staff used to construct a giant slip-n-slide using clear plastic, a garden hose, and nails with metal washers to hold it to the ground. Of course, some kid inevitably cut his leg on a washer that was a bit sharp, and that was the end of fun at field days.
I concur that the ISU football team is going nowheres near that 6-6 prediction on CloneChronicles. Mplscyclone must be smoking the CloneChronic.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
What is the funniest part of that thread?
a) that Iowa State has ONE fan commenting on their own site, compared to at least TWO NDSU fans commenting? Does NDSU even have any blogs?
b) that said ISU fan spent most of the comments debating two main points: that NDSU has several suspensions, and that NDSU may not be upper-tier FCS.
c) that three Iowa bloggers showed up to remind said ISU fan who little brother is.
d) that a post about a full-season prediction for ISU turned into a 23 comment cripple-fight about their only FCS opponent, until the Iowa guys showed up to talk about the daft prediction that an ISU squad coming off a 2-10 season is going to beat a currently ranked Iowa squad coming off a 9-4 season.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 17, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
I don’t know what’s funnier. The fact you guys pay $3 million a year for 7 wins a year (Kirk’s average at Iowa), or the fact “Little Brother” has gone 6-4 in the last 10 years?
Honestly, everything is relative. You think it’s entertaining that some NDSU fans think they are going to beat ISU, or that I think ISU can win 6 games this year, then go ahead. I’m sure the Ohio State fans are just as entertained about how many Iowa fans think they’re going to go to the Rose Bowl every year.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out ISU hasn’t been good in a while. I also wouldn’t brag about being so much better than a team where the series has been so close in recent history, just sayin’
I have no problem with Hawk fans thinking they are going to beat ISU, but I don’t understand piling on a team that has been competitive with you for the last several years.
by Mark Kieffer on Aug 18, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Indeed.
The fact you guys pay $3 million a year for 7 wins a year (Kirk’s average at Iowa), or the fact "Little Brother" has gone 6-4 in the last 10 years?
Well, that and regular trips to bowl games in desirable locations (i.e., not Boise or Shreveport) against premier opponents, in the national spotlight. Plus a few conference championships and regular top 10 finishes – all in that same “last 10 years” time frame that ISU fans are so fond of quoting.
I also wouldn’t brag about being so much better than a team where the series has been so close in recent history, just sayin’
If the dick-measuring that is “program v. program” debates includes any other factor beyond head-to-head competition, then there is merit in saying Iowa is “so much better” than Iowa State. There’s not a single Iowa fan I know that’s happy with the h2h results against ISU in recent years – but give me a choice between a winning record against ISU or multiple bowl wins and top ten finishes, plus a pair of conference championships, and countless outstanding individual performances… and I’ll take the latter every single time.
but I don’t understand piling on a team that has been competitive with you for the last several years.
If ISU played with even half the intensity they play with against Iowa in their other games, then they might garner a bit more respect. When they shit the bed so consistently the rest of the time, it’s hard to see ISU as anything but an annoying pest that manages to play out of their minds for one game a year.
Nice points, Ross.
May I add a few more?
Read closely, mplsclone, if you are still out there.
a) Iowa has done what it has done without playing in the Big 12 north, which has been one of the worst divisions in major BCS football.
b) While I use the term “little brother,” I do it only to irritate. Unfortunately for ISU, when you look at the long-term situations of the two programs, you pretty much fit the bill as the little brother. UNI has never beaten Iowa. And before the era of 12 games, Iowa rarely even scheduled I-AA teams, as ISU made a habit of doing.
c) In the best long-term (more than that 3 year run in the 70s) era of the ISU program you guys have averaged 5.2 wins per season.
d) Iowa has averaged 7 wins per year over 10 years, and that includes a 1-10 and a 3-9 season as Ferentz was “rebuilding.” You know how many times ISU has even won 7 games in its roughly 114 year football history? 13 times. And that includes years when ISU beat teams called “Highland Park” and the “Omaha Light Guards,” as well as teams like Morningside and Grinnell.
e) ISU has never won 10 games in a year. But you know how many times they have lost 10 games in the last 20 years? 4 times.
f) It takes a certain brand of dementia to call for a .500 season (including a win over your nationally-ranked big brother rival) when you just lost 19 games (in 2 years) under your last coach, and you have a new coach who has never been a head coach.
g) Some of us Iowa fans get overconfident at times. But I proudly say that we are never quite the dickheads that OSU is.
h) The fact that NDSU had multiple fans show up on YOUR site, and you only had one Clone fan to argue with them (you), and that argument basically devolved into you counting their suspensions, then that tells me you have bigger problems than what the Iowa fans think of you.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 18, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not going to argue ISU vs. Iowa
Because it’s pointless. To date, Iowa has been more successful, raised more money, and been a better program than ISU. It isn’t necessary to breakdown the entire history.
Without arguing each point, I don’t get the personal jab about no one defending my pick of ISU over NDSU. What have I said to you?
Honestly, there just aren’t a lot of people interested reading about ISU. Would you be interested in reading about Iowa if they’ve had the problems that ISU has had? We do not get many hits from fans of other conferences, and I doubt we get a lot of readership from this readers of this site as well. We haven’t done well in a while, and everyone is going to assume that will continue until they see something else. There just hasn’t been a whole lot for ISU fans to get excited about. The site has gotten good hits when something big has happened, so the readers are out there. The teams need to put something exciting on the field/court so that fans will be engaged with the program instead of apathetic.
I have been going back to long before I started posting on CC and there just aren’t many posts that got more than a handful of comments, so the lack of them aren’t necessarily attributed to me. I am trying to work on that.
If the authors of this site want to take jabs at me, then they have that right; They are in the same boat, know what it feels like, and are doing a great job as this is one of the better blogs out there. If you think you can do better than an author, then you should consider helping a blog out, or write some fanposts. You can never have too many talented people, IMO.
For me, I try to do the best I can. Thanks for reading the site, even if the purpose was to come back here and mock me.
by Mark Kieffer on Aug 18, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry dude.
I was ragging on ISU, and Clone Chronicles, mostly to be sarcastic and mildly funny, not to drive you into a depression. When I was young (roughly age 8 to 15) I had an admittedly irrational dislike of ISU. I had some uncles who went to school there, and my dad (a UNI grad who did some postgrad classes at Iowa) liked to needle his relatives who were ISU fans. I picked this up from him, like many a young man imitates or unconsciously behaves like their fathers.
Then, in late high school and early college (I am a UNI grad, and had some friends who went to Iowa), I tolerated ISU and even rooted for them when they weren’t playing UNI or Iowa. I attended the first two rounds of the NCAA basketball tournament when Fizer took ISU to the Elite Eight. I was even rooting for ISU when they lost to Hampton the next year, while many of my friends were jumping online to try to buy Hampton T-shirts.
When the Eustachy photos surfaced, and he resigned/got pushed out, I turned away from ISU. I would no longer buy their stuff (at that time I think I owned 2 t-shirts and one hat), or root for them much (maybe I still liked Bobby Douglas). It was also tough for me to truly like or respect ISU when they were beating Iowa with regularity in football.
When Jamie Pollard started his shenanigans, I began to dislike or even hate ISU again. Pollard ditched McCarney (who I could respect for his building of ISU football, though I never really loved Mac because of his penchant for beer and slapping his wife). When Pollard poached McDermott from UNI, that was the final straw for me.
So, I guess what I’m trying to say with this long story is that, I don’t have anything personal against you or CloneChronicles. I do have a hatred for Pollard right now, and it carries over to all things ISU at times. I don’t wish you or other nice ISU fans any illness or plague.
As a fan of both Iowa and UNI football, I just found it a bit funny that a I-AA / FCS team (and not exactly a great one in NDSU) had fans that were willing to find your website and join the discussion. I am sorry if CloneNation is apathetic right now, but if it is a nation worth preserving, then 4 or 5 people should be able to find 10 minutes 3 times a week to log on and defend that nation from invading Bison (or Hawkeye) hordes.
I think Paul Rhoads will be a decent or good head coach. I think it is possible that he will be this year. But, I also think that even the most optimistic ISU fan should not hope for more than 4 wins this year, and a pie-in-the-sky dream would be winning 5 or 6. When I saw your prediction, including ISU beating Iowa, it appeared to me to be a casual but deluded prognostication worthy of some smack talk.
As for your comments about blogging, I do write fanposts/fanshots on BHGP. Their quality is certainly up for debate. I stay away from being threatening or obscenely offensive. I don’t see the point of starting my own blog for a couple of reasons: I’m sure there will be stretches where I won’t have the time, I don’t want to have to build a following to feel validated, and I have BHGP to visit.
Good luck, mplsclone, and may your beer be cold, your pants be dry, and your football team be surprisingly OK when not playing Iowa or UNI.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 18, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Conference Championships
Come on. I don’t go around and say that ISU has a Couple of Big 12 North Championships (not that it has meant a ton in past years).
I understand why Kirk gets paid what he does. He wouldn’t get paid that if the revenue wasn’t there. I have friends, co-workers, and in-laws that are Hawk fans, and the "little brother’ comment was annoying. I just don’t look at teams like that, even if my team was better than the other. I just have respect for programs, regardless of how good or bad they are. I figure if they suck, why pile on? They already have it rough enough, you know? The fans aren’t enjoying watching their team lose.
I am with you on the Iowa-ISU game. I like it because I think it’s good for the State of Iowa, but I’d rather ISU have a bad record against Iowa and a good record in conference than the other way around. When you haven’t been winning a lot, however, you are going to celebrate when you can…
by Mark Kieffer on Aug 18, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for the detente, mpls...
A lot of people like to point at Ferentz (who is probably on track to be one of the best 2 or 3 Iowa football coaches in history) and ask if he is worth $3 million per year. My dad is a big Hawk fan, and he doesn’t think so. I just chalk it up to market value.
Ferentz won a couple shared Big 10 titles, and put up 31 wins in 3 years at one point. Therefore, he got a nice contract. He does his work with the relative disadvantage of Iowa’s recruiting base, and what appears to be a loyalty to his coaching staff that is quickly abandoned at other schools.
Up until about 2.5 years ago, it appeared he had his success with young men who were mostly solid citizens. Now, it is tough to say that with a completely straight face.
So, I say to myself, if you want Iowa to be competitive in the top half of the Big Ten, and you want a solid leader who doesn’t make a lot of excuses, Ferentz is about the best you can do. The man worked for a big chunk of his first year (when he had the least amount of on-field success) without an airtight contract and with Bob Bowlsby looming over his shoulder. I don’t blame Ferentz (or more likely, his agent) for wanting to be paid well while he is successful. That is the way coaching works these days.
If Paul Rhoads gets to the beginning of his third year, and then goes out and wins about 24 total games in years 3 thru 5, with a share or two of the Big 12 North or the whole Big 12, then he will probably get a real nice contract also. Most ISU fans will say he is worth every penny, and I will probably not disagree with them.
As for the Iowa-ISU game, obviously, it is very good for the state. However, you could argue that in the past 10 years, it hasn’t had a lot of benefits for Iowa. Iowa has to pay more money to ISU than vice versa (because Kinnick holds more people). Iowa fans have to put up with Pollard’s crap. ISU has beaten Iowa much more than Iowa fans can handle. And finally, ISU’s victories tend to be a season highlight, rather than the foundation for broader success. You guys definitely should bask in the light of those victories, but don’t expect Iowa fans not to react negatively, because this series hasn’t really given us a ton of joy lately.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 19, 2009 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions
One last thing
People were pointing out how all these NDSU fans were arguing against me and how there were no ISU fans to defend it.
First, comments have always been low on CC, even in the beginning, but I’m trying to work on getting more readers, and engaging with the readers.
Secondly, a lot of those people posting were not necessarily NDSU fans. Apparently it was on a FCS messageboard, and there was a link to my prediction. This inspired some readers to go out on CC, basically to try to defend the FCS.
by Mark Kieffer on Aug 19, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
In terms of traffic
Have you considered doing a daily links post? It’s a relatively easy way to provide daily content and you can provide a useful service to other ISU fans (aggregating ISU-related news). And I know it’s helped boost traffic around here.
Also, maybe you’ve already done this, but it might be worth spending some time on some of the more heavily trafficked Cyclone message boards (I know there are some out there – Cyclone Fanatic always seems pretty busy) and try to drive readers to your blog that way.
And aside from all of that, talking shit about rivals/other schools in your conference is usually a good way to get them paying attention to you… ;-)
All of Ross's suggestions...
will probably work more quickly than actually waiting for your football team to get good again.
LOL
(sorry, mpls, I had to throw one more dig your way.)
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 19, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Perhaps
The basketball team will get better sooner :)
by Mark Kieffer on Aug 20, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Almost a given, I think, especially with Brackins hanging around
As much shit as I may talk about ISU, I am expecting them to have a pretty good hoops team this year and I am not looking forward to the 20-pt beatdown they’re going to lay on us at Hilton.
Links are a good idea. I’ve tried Cyclone Fanatic, and they have a zero tolerance policy to linking a Cyclone-related website on theirs, since it’s “competition”. That site is becoming too big for it’s own good. I don’t want to break ISU news; I want to analyze it, break it down, etc.
Talking shit with other schools helps as well, but it’s kind of hard to do when the other schools have your number at the moment.
I appreciate the tips, and thanks again for reading. I do read this blog regularly, so I’ll be on here from time to time.
by Mark Kieffer on Aug 20, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Does CF not even allow linking in like sigs or anything?
B/C that would be pretty draconian…
RE: insults… well, it’s easier to insult when you have the competitive high ground, but there’s nothing to stop you from still taking potshots anyway. And, if nothing else, find creative ways to twist the numbers or dwell on the glories of the past (such as they were… Seneca Wallace Week! Troy Davis Week! Followed by its less popular sequel, Darren Davis Week!).
CF
Does not allow linking in your sig, if your link is to a Cyclone-related website (other than www.cyclones.com). They edited my sig and deleted the link.
While that site getting large is a success-story, it’s obvious to me that the fruits of it’s success are getting to the owner’s head.
by Mark Kieffer on Aug 20, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
They also are more likely to rip on and ban members of the Cyclones fanbase, than fans of other teams who go and troll…
by Mark Kieffer on Aug 21, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
If you were to promote...
Troy Davis week and then Darren Davis week, it should also be your duty to promote young adult literacy week.
Kind of like if BHGP had a Benny Sapp week, we should all have to attend a “Take Back the Night” gathering.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 20, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
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