Just saying.
As you know, the Iowa d-line coach with too many consonants in his name said none of the three all-world DEs we got on this team would move inside. He said that a couple of days ago.
Ya, like we should believe that.
Yesterday I wrote on some lonely outpost of a forlorn university fan blog, I think it was in Pennsylvania?, basically, that this was total bullshit. I think we have the opportunity to kick the shit out of PSU, but that's only because they're playing graduated D-III schools for the first four games of the year, and we'll probably lose to the psycho-OC at ISU and be really upset about it, prior to going to State College, Pennsylvania.
http://www.wewantthelion.net/2009-articles/august-2009/2009-big11ten-preview-iowa.html
Gee, Ballard played most of the day at tackle today? Quel surprise!
Why would Coach Kzcsssmmki betray our trust this way?
What will Morehouse do to exact revenge for Coach Kzcsssmmki's grotesque lie?
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I completely agree..
PSU…we can take them, white-out and all. I think we beat them with the pass too.
I agree too that the OC for Iowa State might be special. But, I think he will need more time to get that thing going. In fact, this could finally be the year we wipe the field with the Cyclones and do it with defense.
I am concerned with Arizona but I don’t know why…athleticism maybe.
"When you don't know that you don't know, it's a lot different than when you do know that you don't know." Bill Parcells
Rice, 2008, top ten nationally in
scoring, passing, and total offense.
ISU is thin, but not Rice-thin. Herman was only at Rice two years. In his first year, 2007, Rice set 40 offensive records. I wonder if ISU would like to set 40 offensive records this year. Their QB threw for 52 TDs in the regular season.
I don’t know if he, as the OC, calls a lot of time outs because he can’t get the plays into the huddle in time. But probably not. He goes no-huddle, and it’s a Tulsa Golden Hurricane-like up-tempo assault. This is the kind of offense that will cause ISU players to think they can beat anyone if they get hot.
Rice played Western Michigan last year in their bowl game. Rice beat Western Michigan, 38-14. Remember Western Michigan?
Mr. Boh Knows ...
I have got to check out the Rice O
That sounds like a plastic dinner dish my parents fed me in the ’70s, but my interest is piqued.
Right now, I’m vaguely aware of the numbers and that it was successful enough to make Rice more than it usually is. Also, isn’t there a hybrid TE who was drafted fairly high this year from Rice?
There is one thing, the Cyclones will be exponentially better coached than they were last year. That second-half clock management at Kinnick exposed Chizik for the bobo that he is.
"I always like it better when the clowns seem to try to be happy."
I know you have journalistic standards to uphold...
But “bobo?”
What about No Clock Reading Jesus Warrior? I think that one fits better, no?
by Twin Cities Hawk on Aug 16, 2009 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions
That one . . .
Is the clear winner!!! Damn near spit out the Newman’s organic.
"I always like it better when the clowns seem to try to be happy."
by MarcMorehouse on Aug 16, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Gotta love the no edit feature....
it’s awesome! Anyway, I was going to say it’s too early to say how successful Rhoads is going to be. The man has never coached a game in his life, and this year’s team has far less talent on it (especially on defense) than Chizik’s first team did.
The one thing . . .
Rhoads has in his favor is that ISU spent some cash on assistants. I think more than it did for the No Clock Reading Jesus Warrior Chin Implant (a nice addition, TC?).
"I always like it better when the clowns seem to try to be happy."
by MarcMorehouse on Aug 16, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't Pollard
make a big deal of giving Chizik the biggest assistant coaching budget in the conference? Or at least a substantial amount more than Mac (or any of his predecessors) ever had?
ISU assistants...
At the bottom of this article is a good breakdown of Chizik’s and Rhoads’s assistants’ salaries.
http://theclonezone.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/rhoads-coaches-at-isu-are-paid-better-than-chiziks/
But, according to the table below, in 2008, that would still have put ISU assistants at or near the bottom of the Big 12.
http://newsok.com/article/3272566
What I gather from this is that Pollard was probably talking a lot of sh!t about something that was moderately untrue at best, and a complete f***ing lie at worst.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 16, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
strike that part in the first sentence
about “bottom of the article”.
No Edit capabilities make me unhappy/ sound crappy.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 16, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, yes it is.
You just pointed out to me something I didn’t realize: that Gene Chizik looks like the mentally dysfunctional third cousin twice removed from Bill Cowher.
(Albeit one who just got paid by a host of Southerns who appreciate a good ol’ boy coach who carries a mighty thirst for preaching the word of Jesus Christ – football results be dammed.)
by Twin Cities Hawk on Aug 16, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Tom Herman
The impressive:
All the stuff Bellanca mentioned.
Two of Herman’s receivers at Rice registered more then 1,300 yards receiving in 2008. Quarterback Chase Clement and receiver Jarrett Dillard connected for an NCAA-record 51 touchdowns over their career, breaking the previous mark by 12. Tight end James Casey was the NCAA’s second-leading receiver with 111 catches in 2008.
2 seasons as OC at Texas State (the real one in FCS, not the Bakula-led Armadilloes) in 05 and 06.
Led Southland Conference in total offense both years. 2005 offense was 8th nationally (I’m assuming in FCS only) in scoring. They were the fourth seed in the 2005 playoffs, and in three home playoff games, they beat Georgia Southern (score of 50-35), beat Cal Poly (14 to 7), and lost to UNI (37-40).
4 seasons as assistant at Sam Houston St. (01 to 04, Not sure if he was OC). While there, they were twice Southland Conference champs and made the NCAA Division I-AA (FCS) playoffs. In 2004, they finished 11-3 and advanced to the Division I-AA championship’s semifinals. The Bearkats’ offense was ranked second nationally in passing offense, averaging 358.5 yards, while the Bearkats’ 471 yards of total offense ranked fifth among Division I-AA schools. In his first season at Sam Houston State, Herman coached Jonathon Cooper who was named the NCAA Division I-AA Wide Receiver of the Year. Herman produced all-conference receivers in each season and produced three All-American wideouts.
He served as a graduate assistant coach at Texas in 1999 and 2000 where he worked with the offensive line as well as the defensive and special teams scout units.
He is a member of Mensa (I’m not kidding, it was on his Rice profile ).
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
Tom Herman
The not-so-impressive:
(Much of this info is based on overall team performance, so take it with as many grains of salt as you require.)
At Rice in 2008 , they didn’t really beat anyone I would call good. They beat three teams I would call decent (Houston, maybe Southern Miss, and Western Michigan in the Texas Bowl which was PLAYED IN RICE’S HOMETOWN.)
In 2007 at Rice , they won 3 freaking games, and lost to Nicholls State (FCS). They beat Southern Miss who went 7-6, and UTEP who went 4-8, and an awful SMU team that went 1-11.
In 2006 at Texas State , they won 5 games, they beat McNeese that went 7-5, and everyone else was pretty much crap.
In 2005 at Texas State , they did go 11-3, but three of those wins were against Southern Utah, Delta State, and Panhandle State (nope, I’m not making those last two up). They beat South Dakota St, which I believe was in its first year of FCS / I-AA play. T State lost to a 6-4 Nicholls State.
I’m not going to research what his Sam Houston teams did, because I’m not even sure if he was a coordinator there.
Right now, I think he is and will be a good coach.
However, if in 2 or 3 years it looks like this guy was just running prolific offenses on crappy teams, I will probably say “I told you so.”
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 16, 2009 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Also...
I wonder if Herman’s record-setting offenses had anything to do with the fact that Rice had not made a bowl game for 45 years?
Rice won 8 games exactly once from 1962 to 2007. Rice was mediocre, or garbage, or mediocre garbage for a long time. Also, their offensive records were probably stomped down for years by being in the Southwest Conference and playing Arkansas, Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor, TCU, T Tech, Houston, and SMU every year from 1995 on back.
Now, that also means that Herman came in and within about 2/3 of a season or one season, he had an offense going quite well, so maybe he does deserve a lot of credit?
I’m not sure what to conclude from this double-edged sword.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 16, 2009 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions
McDaniels career development speed
The head coach at Texas State and Rice (Bailiff) executed two turnarounds in two years each. Conventional wisdom is that it takes 5-7 years to take a corpse and breath life into it (which is what McCarney needed, and which is the measure of Fry’s genius in Iowa City because he didn’t need it), 3 years to restore a formerly effective program. (Iowa wasn’t a corpse in 1999, just damaged.) Herman was the OC in both turnarounds.
They play Herman’s version of Malzahn’s frenzy assault football, which uptempo football is designed to prevent defenses from substituting, among other things, and then watching them die of fatigue in the second half.
I just really like this choice by Rhoads, because it says a few things to me that are smart:
a) business as usual (conventional offensive schemes, conventional retread coaching choices, conventional pablum) will result in ISU trying to play BXII football inside the box, so to speak, with guys who would be third string at their opponents, and that there is no point in that. Have to get outside the box. (I’m not talking about the line of scrimmage here.)
b) Herman is a kind of coaching entrepreneur: he has made his career swimming upstream, from a DIII school to the Longhorns to his apprenticeships in the dust and short grass — and now he’s only 34 and game-planning against the best in the country. This is Josh McDaniels-type career development. Something is going on with the guy, even beyond the sick numbers they’re putting up. (I would be very pleased if Stanzi threw for 20 TDs this year; his QB last year: 52.) Markets are efficient, even coaching markets.
c) ISU will pursue a high-variance offense, which means they will get blown out from time-to-time. They will no matter what they do. But it also means they’re going to get the jump on somebody and get their confidence up and win some startling games. If you want a great example of a high-variance coaching philosophy, working, see Boise State v. Oklahoma. I also believe that Fry’s famous use of ‘gimmicks’ was really just recognition of the same fact: that Iowa didn’t have the talent to go toe-to-toe with Michigan and OSU, without stretching probabilities through high-variance game-planning. Obviously, Ferentz is more low-variance in his approach than Tressel — to wit, he is the lowest-variance coach in the Big Ten.
d) He’s 34, he’s never failed, his confidence must absolutely be impenetrable, the players are going to feed off that confidence.
By the way, even Chizik seems to have absorbed some of this lesson: he’s hired Malzahn as his OC at Auburn. I’m beginning to think Chizik is some sort of weirdo, to tell you the truth, making things up as he goes along.
I predict ISU will have a signature 49-45 type eyeball-popping win over someone they have no business beating, if this Herman guy is what I think he is. I hope it’s not Iowa.
Rhoads seems like a cool guy who will keep the clubhouse on his side. (Rides his Harley all summer, doesn’t shave off-season, hires mad scientist 34 year-olds and gives him the keys.)
All of that said, anyone who brags on his Mensa membership (really, bfd) needs to grow up.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
This sounds a little . . .
like Bill Snyder, doesn’t it?
Different offensive schemes, but Snyder started in DIII, too, and climbed to Iowa and then to Kstate.
Excellent point on variance. ISU football has the need to sell itself more than Iowa. Ferentz can play percentage football and the stadium will still be full. ISU? It probably doesn’t hurt to have fireworks.
"I always like it better when the clowns seem to try to be happy."
by MarcMorehouse on Aug 16, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
What?
ISU trying to fill its stadium? I thought the strategy was to keep opposing fans out?
I HATE JAMIE POLLARD! ITS A HAWKEYE STATE!
Finally, who wants noisy fireworks? I’d much rather sit quietly with my family on a picnic blanket (which I can also do at Trice).
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 16, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
When the product
compares better to minor-league baseball than Big 12 football, fireworks are a big deal. Not comparing the pro/college aspect of it, but the “hey do you want to go to the I-Cubs game, there isn’t anything else going on” aspect of it.
I can't relate Herman to Snyder. Unfair to Snyder.
Snyder may offer the most remarkable turnaround record in D-I football ever. (It’s a shame he came back. I don’t believe it will do anything but diminish his legacy.)
I do think that if you’re going to change a culture, you have to break a culture — smash it — and start over by writing your own rules. I like Herman because he promises C-USA speed and disorienting tempo.
It’s hilarious that Chizik left and decided to do the same thing.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
Liked that post, Bellanca...
and you set the record for comment that used the word “variance” the most times.
It is probably the best choice Rhoads could make.
I think Rhoads is more of a hard@$$ than most people think. Every time I see practice highlights on the news, he is yelling at someone, threatening to “get somebody else to do that job.”
I’d like to think Iowa will be well-served if Ames gets three days of rain right before September 12. It seems to me that Iowa could do better than ISU in a half foot of muck that inevitably results when Trice gets 1.5 inches of rain.
As for ISU winning a game or two, here are the best candidates in order:
1) probably a tie between No. Dakota St, and @Kent St.
2) Army
3) Baylor
4) probably a tie between Colorado and @Kansas St.
I don’t really see any way ISU can win @KU, @A&M, @Nebraska, @Missouri, or against Ok St. I don’t really want to make myself see any way they beat Iowa, but that might be because I’ve already seen it happen more than I like.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 16, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
variance v. beta
That’s because if I use the term ‘beta’ only those people in the capital markets will know wtf I am talking about. You’re right, it’s sounds retarded to say it over and over, but that’s the best I can do.
High beta, high variance, means betting on a high risk/reward outcome that necessarily will introduce more volatility into results.
Fry’s genius, in my view, was pairing fundamental kick ass football with the craziest, most unexpected 5 plays per game. It drove Schembechler around the bend. These days we just play fundamental, low-beta football. I’m very curious to see how Rhoads and Herman do.
I disagree with your assessment on their chances. If they get in a groove and run 75 offensive plays against somebody, anything can happen. Absolutely anything. That’s the essence of the Herman scheme. Will they win 8? Of course not. Will they beat somebody big? I think so. Fun stuff.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
Variance
It didn’t sound retarded. Just a little bit humorous : )
Don’t you think Iowa’s “low-beta” football is probably a function of Ferentz “letting O’Keefe be O’Keefe?” I remember a few reverses (often failing because even our speed guys are just average for speed guys) over the years, maybe one or two halfback passes or flea flickers, and of course, the jailbreak until it stopped working. While this is fine as long as we are successful and not turning these decisions into 30 yard losses or TDs scored against us, it also makes me watch any other football game and nearly crap my pants in surprise when I see a trick play (like last week’s Titans-Bills fake punt).
I really can’t remember the early Fry years, so I will bow to the judgment of you and others on his use of trickery. By the time I was really paying attention, he was in his 5 “draw plays per game” mode.
Which big team do you think ISU could beat (and yes, I know you said it will seem miraculous because it will probably be high-scoring)? The only “big teams” I see on their sched are Nebraska, Ok St, Mizzou, and maybe KU and/or Colorado. All the other games should be competitive for about 3 quarters unless ISU is “Walden-bad” this year.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 16, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Kansas State and Snyder
My nephew is a hard core KSU alum and he told me Prince (the old coach) was not even talking to Kansas H.S. coaches, much less seriously recruiting those guys. And as a result Mangino at Kansas got them all. That is why KSU was loaded with JC players. Prince was recruiting outside the state and most of those players would visit Manhattan, Kansas and laugh. It’s not for everyone. Well, Snyder has gone back to basics and is going to try to build from the state out, and is essentially only go to coach until the program is turned back around and then hand it off to a groomed replacement. Remember, Stoops really grew up under Snyder, not Hayden. Same is true for Jim Leavitt, Mikle Stoops and Bielema…not to mention Mark Mangino, and even Urban Meyer gives Snyder credit for his growth with the spread offense.
I think Snyder is an exception to the “stay too long” rule, as he is such a workaholic, and he will find a way to get K-State back to respectability. And if he does, it will be every bit as impressive as his first turn around. They were in that much disarray.
"When you don't know that you don't know, it's a lot different than when you do know that you don't know." Bill Parcells
I want to like Snyder's return...
but they almost need a young version of Snyder.
I’m sure Prince was supposed to be that, but he hadn’t done much in the Midwest. Could KSU bring themselves to hire an OU assistant (Jay Norvell?), or a younger proven head coach (Chris Petersen, Gary Patterson). Of course, I have no idea if any of these guys would take the KSU job.
Their schedule doesn’t look real favorable. They have T Tech and Oklahoma this year. Next year, they start a cycle with Texas and Ok St. on the docket. In 2011, they have Miami FL and Oregon to go with Texas and Ok St. Then, in 2012, they go back to the cycle of Oklahoma and T Tech to go with Oregon and Miami FL (albeit, all but Miami at home in 2012).
I think the best they can do in the next 4 years will be 5 to 8 wins. If they consider middle-tier or lower bowls and 4 conference wins as “back,” then that’s fine. But barring some sort of miracle, it will take more than Bill Snyder to get them back in the hunt for Big 12 North supremacy, IMO.
You may be right about Bob Stoops growing up under Snyder, but it also seems like he needed to prove himself at Florida (and it seems that is where he became a rock star coach) before he was given a head coaching gig. Also, right now, it doesn’t really seem like that much of a compliment to say that Bielema and M. Stoops grew up under Snyder, because those guys might both get fired in the next 1.5 years.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 16, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Against attacking defense schemes...yes
But, against Iowa’s bend-do-break scheme I smell a ton of INTs. These fast break offenses work better when there are very few plays in the scoring drive. The more plays required, the more likely an implosion will occur.
I can see you are a fan and it may be that ISU’s new offensive scheme does cause havoc for Iowa…but I see nothing but potential problems out of the gate for them. Their defense last year, save the game against Iowa of course, was atrocious. Their personnel is actually worse this year. Add more time on the field for that unit and it could be a nightmare for them. Also, these sorts of offensive schemes tend to do very poorly in streetfight-type games—which this game very often ends up being. It is a soft offense and relies heavily on breakdowns by the opposition, unless there are gamebreakers in the arsenal to do some one-on-one work—which there do not appear to be at this time at ISU.
I always like outside the box intiatives in sports, so I will be a very interested observer in ISU’s efforts. Again, the non-conf. team that is of greatest concern to me is Arizona.
"When you don't know that you don't know, it's a lot different than when you do know that you don't know." Bill Parcells
Maybe.
But we don’t know if we are a tough team yet. We really don’t. Our D looks tough. The O-Line is in disarray, total disarray. To play Iowa football the O-Line has to beat people up. I don’t know if that is in the cards yet. And the RB grimaces going up stairs.
Also, these post-Leach offenses don’t throw INTs. Note that they don’t go for homeruns, and they don’t try to make a living over the middle. They play a numbers game on the outside. I wouldn’t bank on turnovers. Giving up a lot of yards but few points, yes. But these offenses are designed to take six yards, not gun for 26.
To me, the soft underbelly of the frantic O’s is that they have a few games where they go three-and-out in 27 seconds, repeatedly. That means that if their opponent can put together a few drives, their defenses are wiped out by the second quarter. That’s how you beat them. But we always play soft and give our opponents the underneath stuff. I think they’ll move the ball.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
Yeah, if anything, the Leach-style spread offenses are set up perfectly for Iowa's D
They’re more than willing to just throw slant after slant underneath the Cover-2 and march down the field 5 or 6 yards at a time, waiting for something to open up deep, or for a receiver to break a tackle or something and get a ton of YAC. That’s what Northwestern did to us last year, and it’s basically the prototype for how to beat Norm’s defense. Actually, even ISU has been able to do that in the recent past. Two years ago they were able to march down the field at will on us, one little bit at a time, but kept stalling out in the redzone and having to settle for fieldgoals. If they can improve even a little, that approach can be dangerous.
The teams that concern me...
are the ones that will have strong defenses. Sure, I am concerned about our running game too…but, I’m optimistic about our passing game, well, really about Stanzi. The kind of games I get uncomfortable with are ones where we have too many 3 and outs against stingy defenses.
Because of the style of defense we play we need to have as few 3 and outs as is possible. So teams that can force us into early punts scare me. I sense that we will do very well against teams that give up yards and TOP—that’s likely to be ISU. While most everyone dislikes KOK, I love him. I love the way he puts the game in the hands of the players, and when we have the right kind of team, they respond.
Although, I was at Iowa when Hayden turned it around and I too loved the exotics, as he called them. He had the best feel for when to unveil them too. He had a knack. Why Kirk avoids them is a mystery to me. I only recall the few trick plays he has ever tried as being successful.
"When you don't know that you don't know, it's a lot different than when you do know that you don't know." Bill Parcells
I think the last "exotic"
that Kirk tried was a reverse against Texas in the Alamo Bowl. Iowa had the ball at midfield with 2 minutes to go and was only down by 2, and for some reason Kirk and/or O’Keefe thought it was a good time to dust that one off. We all know what happened.
by TarHeelHawk on Aug 16, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I was thinking of the
Nate K. flip/pass against Ohio State…but I guess there have been a few since then. Although, I don’t consider a reverse very exotic…but in the KF/KOK world a reverse is shocking.
"When you don't know that you don't know, it's a lot different than when you do know that you don't know." Bill Parcells
by StoopsMyAss on Aug 16, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
The flip to Kaeding was amazing.
I’m still kinda pissed that that has recently become known as “the Les Miles play” after he called for in in an LSU game a couple years ago. Nate’s was cooler, dammit.
What? No, there wasn’t any blatant holding on that play lalalalalalalala can’t hear you.
WR screens haven't worked because
Our OT’s haven’t been able to execute on the screen side. They need to sell the misdirection first and THEN eat up a defender.
"Hayden Fox for Universal Jocks!"
Well, you have to trust...
CraigTNelson. After all, he is the “Coach.”
LOL
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Aug 17, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions

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