Deep Thought of the Day

by Oops Pow Surprise on Jul 23, 2009 12:24 PM CDT in Football Comment 29 comments

When is it all too much?

Given two facts:

Kirk Ferentz is constantly named as a threat to leave the Iowa football program, whether for a "better" job or resigning in disgrace.
When Joe Paterno retires in the next couple years, Ferentz will be the longest-tenured coach in the Big Ten.

Doesn't Ferentz's inability to leave the Hawkeyes prove he's already at his ceiling? Iowa should fire Ferentz immediately if they want to reach the next level. That they would end all the negative speculation would just be a bonus.

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Hire Alford

I hear he’s the man to take programs to the next level.

by storminspank on Jul 23, 2009 12:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm not even an Iowa fan...

…and I knew this would be the first comment.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Jul 23, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can Whatshisname... Wyoming Pete or whoever that AD guy is...

…and hire Jamie Pollard ASAP. Then shit can finally start getting done.

by Bucketochicken on Jul 23, 2009 12:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

But then who...

could we hire that would be willing to retain O’Keefe no matter his job performance?

by You wouldnt like me when Im Angerer on Jul 23, 2009 1:25 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

W?

by Bucketochicken on Jul 23, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That is one of the finest usernames in all of history

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Oops Pow Surprise on Jul 23, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed. Were I wearing a hat at the moment, I would doff it in your honor, good sir.

by Bucketochicken on Jul 23, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hate to say it...

because it seems absurd to fire a coach when we haven’t had any rape cases or less than 9 wins in a full year. But, the torches were lit when the team had rampant legal issues and was coming off two straight non-winning years, two bowl losses, and a missed bowl. But, that was just fans, as I don’t think the administration ever really seriously thought about firing Ferentz.

And unless the media gets really nasty with him, I doubt he will retire before 2015, when he would be 60. I really don’t know if he retires at that point, or if there will be NFL opportunities, or what.

Here is my list of possible replacements, none are fact-based, I’m just spitt-balling:
Erik Campbell, Lester Erb, Eric Johnson, Darrell Wilson, Mike Devlin, Ron Aiken, Mark Farley (if he ever wins an FCS title or two), and the usual suspects (mid-level D1 coaches coming off a big year at that point). I do not foresee Iowa landing a huge name as their next head coach.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 23, 2009 2:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ferentz is here for the long haul

The guy is half-a-century old, he’s hot a kid in trouble—er, college, and he’s a thoughtful guy who seems to have sorted out what’s important in life and what’s not (I think his father passing away may have done some of that—death sort of perspective-izes things, sometimes).

I see him retiring here—I think he’s that attached to the place now. The NFL is a shark tank full of rookie-coach chum; whereas college is a good-ole-boy network full of sycophants (when you need them) and perks (35 hours on a plane—beats snakes on a plane).

I truly think he’s here for the duration. But I do agree that when he does retire, the replacement is not going to be from the “Chuck Fairbanks here’s a pot of gold” school (just showing my age). It’ll be an asst coach, or someone from “the tree.”

If it's not too much trouble, search your soul--and then ask yourself if maybe I might have a point.

by The Director on Jul 23, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How old is Philbin?

Or, more to the point, how old will he be in 2015 (when/if KF retires)? Not that I don’t want him back, but you’d think by then he’d at least be given the chance to head coach somewhere in the NFL, if not college. In other words, realistically, could we get him back?

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jul 24, 2009 4:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Philbin...

is 48 right now (born in 1961). So, he would be roughly 54 in 2015.

Here is his bio page on Green Bay’s website:

http://www.packers.com/team/coaches/philbin_joe/

His picture on there does not scream “NFL head coach” to me.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 24, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So...

yes, I think Iowa might have a shot at getting him back. I would think he would make more money as Iowa head coach.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 24, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well

no NFL coordinator is getting paid $3M/yr, right? I don’t think even Daniel Snyder has gone that far yet.

Philbin would be an interesting choice, but I’d also wonder about the fact that he’ll be quite a few years removed from the college game by 2015. Granted, KF had spent a few years away from college when he came here and that’s worked out pretty well, but you never know.

I wonder if any guys currently on staff would be possibilities. I don’t think KOK or Norm would be interested at all (and if KOK was named HC I think the fanbase would have a collective stroke). Our Coach K (Kacinzki? sp?), Phil Parker, and Campbell are probably the hottest prospects, but none of them even have coordinator experience, let alone HC experience. Even KF had his stint at Maine…

by RossWB on Jul 24, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

There IS this Stoops guy down at some college in Oklahoma...

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Oops Pow Surprise on Jul 25, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can you imagine

Stoops as HC and reunited with Chuck Long as QB Coach/OC like they were in 2000?

I’ll be honest, I think it is insane to talk about getting rid of Ferentz right now, nor do I think anything of the kind is going to happen. However, if it did I think a Stoops/Long combo would be a perfect fit – and the most fitting.

by the_iowa_hawkeye on Jul 25, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think I've heard of this Stoops fellow...

He has a Tressel-like record in BCS games lately, right?

by RossWB on Jul 25, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Isn't Jason Garrett

of the Cowboys getting paid around that much?

by TarHeelHawk on Jul 26, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're probably right.

But Jerry Jones is insane, too.

by RossWB on Jul 28, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fortunately, it's a pretty healthy tree.

Joe Philbin is another name to keep in mind.

by DonnyDonovan on Jul 23, 2009 7:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

would we consider

McCartney? I know he’d love to shove a flaming pitch forK up Pollards a$$.

I don’t think Chuck Long is cut out for head coach, maybe O-coordinator…

this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.

by pfac51 on Jul 23, 2009 8:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe. Does the band still play "Hey Jude?"

That might be kind of awkward/distracting… I guess they could change it up and play “Live and Let Die,” maybe, but still, seems like with a coach like that he mightbe more focused on the music than the game. Plus he probably likes soccer better anyway.

by Bucketochicken on Jul 23, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

I love it when people take advantage of spelling errors.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Jul 23, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If "McCartney" does become coach...

I hope he starts referring to the Big Ten season as “The Long and Winding Road.” But if he did that, the press would probably complain he doesn’t “Say, Say, Say” anything important at press conferences. :)

I could tolerate McCarney as a DC, but I don’t think Iowa would hire him as head coach. Also, he is older than Ferentz, so if Ferentz is around until at least 2015, I doubt Barta will hire a head coach who would be roughly 62 years old at that point. I could tolerate Long as an OC, but I think he has had (and failed) his opportunity as a head coach in D1.

by WaterlooChazz on Jul 24, 2009 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you read McCartney's playbook backwards,

you’ll find a really ripping recipe for lentil soup.

by Bucketochicken on Jul 24, 2009 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What if someone wants non-alcoholic beer?

you know, it’s never come up…

by Internet Legend on Jul 24, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

bravo you 2

"I'm driven by greatness" - Derrick Williams

by HookMania on Jul 24, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I doubt it

I do have this dream that he will eventually become DC at Iowa. Partially because he is a really good DC, but mostly because the ISU fan reaction would be hilarious. I think Phil Parker is probably Norm’s successor though (and justifiably so), so I doubt it happens.

by NorseHawk on Jul 23, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs