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Joe Fermino Is an Undrafted Free Agent Our friends at Hawkeye Hardwood, the only Iowa basketball message board we bother reading, have tackled the most interesting of off-season projects: An 8-team fantasy draft of post-1970 Hawkeyes. The first round shook out as follows:
(1) Roy Marble (of course)
(2) Ronnie Lester (probably the only other potential first pick)
(3) Acie Earl
(4) Fred Brown (love him, but there's a better point guard on the board)
(5) Andre Woolridge (yeah, that one)
(6) John Johnson
(7) Greg Stokes
(8) B.J. Armstrong
Other recent notables: Jess Settles went mid-second round, Reggie Evans, Greg Brunner, and Adam Haluska went in the third, Jeff Horner and Ricky Davis made it into the fourth, and Matt Gatens kicked off round six. Generally well-researched and well-explained (though Greg Brunner was a real stretch), in marked contrast to what we do.
They May Take Our Appendicies, But They'll Never Take Our Freedom Matt Gatens had an emergency appendectomy over the weekend and is out indefinitely. And, by "indefinitely," we mean about a week:
"On Saturday night about midnight he started having stomach pains and he tried to sleep it off," Mike Gatens said. "He came over about 6 o’clock (Sunday) morning, and I kind of figured that’s what happened.
"We went to the hospital, he was in surgery from 11 to 1 and had it taken out."
Mike Gatens said Matt Gatens will be out at least a week from the Prime Time League....
"He won’t miss that much. He’ll play in a week or so," Mike Gatens said.
Good to hear everything went well, and we wish Matt a quick and painless recovery.
Footnotes The Rivalry, Esq. has succumbed to the offseason doldrums and began a list of the Top 80 Reasons to Love the Big Ten. Vastly underrated at #79? The Big Ass Turkey Leg. Shonn Greene and Matt Kroul spend a night on the town with Mark Sanchez. Ed Orgeron says "LEMSDAY," regardless of age or gender. John Daly wants you to cut the music so he can talk to the ladies.
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Why was Brunner a stretch?
He’s Iowa’s all-time career rebounder, and averaged over 9 rpg and 14 ppg in 2006. His rpg that year was higher than either Street’s or Bowen’s best season on the boards, the other two I considered with that pick. He compares very favorably with the best power forwards in school history. He’s also 10th all time in blocks. He was the heart and soul of a very good 2006 team whose legacy is tainted by the Northwestern State debacle in the NCAA tournament.
To be clear, this is all fun and highly subjective, but there’s been discussion at HNO about reaches, and that’s the first time that’s been the name brought up. I mean, Ricky Davis in round 3 or whenever it was?
Please
Maybe it’s my absolute unequivocal disdain for his style of play, but I would take at least 4 players over Brunner in that spot. His career totals are a pure byproduct of the fact he got to play as a freshman; had Bowen played on those down year teams, he would have surpassed Brunner’s total. As for those “big” numbers he put up in 2006? Brunner cost his team as much in horrendous shooting and turnovers. He shot .454 from the field, despite taking the majority of his shots from inside 6 feet (by the way, that’s a 6% drop from his junior year). He launched an inexplicable 41 threes, each and every one of which could be described as “ill-advised.” He turned the ball over 84 GOD DAMN TIMES (that’s 2.5 per game, which is a bad number for a guard; it’s horrendous for a player who doesn’t even handle the ball). That’s not even counting the effect of his never-ending string of offensive fouls stemming from his one move: lower the shoulder, jump at the defender, and flail wildly. And when your only low post move AS A POWER FORWARD is to try to draw a foul, you sure as hell better make free throws at better than 65%.
I would take Adam Haluska there without thinking. You want to talk big seasons? 20.5/4.6/2.6 as a senior on far better peripherals, homes. The 2006 team would have been better off if he played a bigger role.
Ryan Bowen’s senior year matched Brunner’s 14/9, and he also did it on far better peripherals (60% from the field, a full turnover per game less, and with far fewer headslap-inducing idiotic episodes). For his career, Bowen shot at a 7.5% higher percentage that Brunner, was a far better shot blocker, and matched or bettered everything else along the way (Bowen’s 4-year career turnover total is just 2 more than Brunner’s final two seasons). That’s the same production in a far more efficient manner, which means more scoring for everyone else.
Chris Street was bettering Brunner’s senior year (against tougher competition) when he was killed, and had another year to improve. He was also a far superior defensive player; Brunner’s singleminded obsession with taking charges often led to easy layups.
And yeah, I’ll say it: I’d take Luke Recker. His senior season: 17/3.5/2.5, led the team in steals, and automatic from the line.
You’re right. It’s entirely subjective, and I’ll be the first to admit I couldn’t stand watching Brunner’s one-trick pony show for as long as I did. The only player on my list who is unquestionably better than Brunner at the things Brunner did is Ryan Bowen, and the numbers bear that out. It’s an argument, I guess, and as good at killing time in June as anything else.
storminspank: "Or we could join you can take our pants off."
by Hawkeye State on Jun 23, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
I didn't like having the first pick.
All-star Iowa has a lot of depth, but few real difference makers. None of them lasted until the 16th pick.
Actually, I have Recker too.
And I was shocked to get him in the fourth round. And, while I like my team, in the interest of full disclosure, if we could do the draft over, I’d probably take Bowen where I took Brunner. I had forgotten how good Bowen was.
With Recker and JJ filling up the basket though, all I’m primarily asking fantasy Brunner to do is rebound, and that is what he did best.
If I may be blunt...
Where’s the player who could make the list for two schools in the Big Ten? He should have been drafted by now.
Where is Sam Okey?
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Jun 23, 2009 12:56 PM CDT reply actions
My guess?
In a bar.
storminspank: "Or we could join you can take our pants off."
by Hawkeye State on Jun 23, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, Sam could pound beers
Especially during his shifts while he was working as a bouncer at that bar……help me out here: Before it turned into The Alley Cat and got all light in the loafers, it was called something else. It was a great place to go and get all blacked out on Wednesday nights when they had 50-cent pitchers. I feel like it had a number in the name. Like 21 Jumpstreet or something….
Anyone? This is going to drive me crazy.
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Jun 24, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Rush Hour
storminspank: "Or we could join you can take our pants off."
by Hawkeye State on Jun 24, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions
much obliged
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Jun 24, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Andre Woolridge
In my opinion- 3 or 4 inches separated him from never getting a look in the NBA from being an all-star. I mean, really, if he was 6’3" there wouldn’t have been a question about his professional ability.
by shada's revenge on Jun 23, 2009 5:16 PM CDT reply actions





















