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Welcome To The NFL, Part 1: The Drafteds

So, Iowa got a few guys drafted. Four is good, though we were really hoping for five or six, and at least one guy (Shonn) going on Saturday. That didn't happen, but all in all, good times.

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This never gets old.

Money is green, and Greene is money: Congrats to the Jets, who said, for all intents and purposes, "screw the rest of the draft; we want Shonn Greene right now." At the start of the 3rd round, the Jets' front office sent every remaining pick but one to the Lions for the first pick of the day, then immediately scooped up Greene. He'll be stepping into a situation where Thomas Jones is getting his bitch on (and kinda for good reason; base salary of $900,000? Jeez), and the only other tailback worth a crap is Leon Washington. Now the only questions are from whom Greene takes carries, and how many.

Rex Ryan and Shonn Greene are a match well made; consider these two quotes:

"He was the best player that was on our board," Jets Coach Rex Ryan said. "In our opinion, it wasn’t close.

"He’s a big, powerful running back. We want to have a little ground and pound."

"The game of football is a physical sport. That’s why I enjoy it so much," Greene told reporters. "I love contact. It’s violent, it’s quick, it’s fast. That’s just the nature of my game, how I like to play the game."

Considering that Jones is 31 in August and about to price himself out of the league--there's not much of a market for slowing tailbacks who command 12-year-veteran money, which Jones ought to be at the end of his contract --it looks like this is a situation where Greene can thrive for years, especially since his knees are younger than his 24 years suggest. Proud ovation for Greene and the Jets.

Fletch lives: We're still in shock as to how Bradley Fletcher could have improved - not even from freshman to senior, but junior to senior - to the point that he's going in the early third round. But sure enough, right after Greene went, the Rams said "oh yeah, Iowa's got some guys"* and took Fletcher with the 66th pick.

Todd McShay immediately killed the pick, using the usual scout-talk overreaction that makes us wonder why Fletcher even plays football in the first place:

Fletcher was the biggest reach. While he's a big, physical corner, he lacks ideal range and is not an overly instinctive playmaker, so I'm not sure he'll ever be more than another sub-package DB on a roster filled with plenty of them already.

Easy there, Todd. Fletcher was also widely considered the best cover-2 corner at the Senior Bowl; the truth likely lies somewhere in the middle. Since we're horribly biased, of course, we'll say "fuck that truth" and demand that ESPN add the phrase "who is covered in Awesomesauce" after Fletcher's name in perpetuity in compensation for such a greivous slight.

A much better selection than his twin sisters, Mary-Kate and Ashley: After a few dozen picks in which we wondered why the hell Unusual Punishment hadn't been drafted yet, Seth Olsen went to Denver with the 132nd pick, late in the 4th round.

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You let that belly HANG, brother!

We're not sure he's got the lateral quickness to play tackle and stop an elite pass rusher-- as a matter of fact, we're kind of sure that's one reason why Ferentz plugged him in at guard-- but tackle seems to be where MHR's analysis is projecting him anyway. We'll be very interested to see what kind of playing time Olsen earns, where, and what he does with it.

Um… thank you?: Normally, when a team trades up to take a player, they're so convinced that he's the best player available that he's worth multiple picks to get on the roster. The assumption, though, is that said team's scouting staff is A: competent, B: a staff at all, and C: anybody other than Al Davis.

After two truly miserable selections to start the draft--it's incredible when you take 2009's Troy Williamson at the #7 pick and that's not even your worst move of the first day by a long shot--the Raiders slogged through an uneventful Day 2 before trading their 7th pick and next year's 6th (or something like that) to get TE Brandon Myers. That would usually be an indication that the Raiders think Myers is a lock to make the final roster, but again, the Al Davis thing. Anymore, we're genuinely surprised Davis selected actual, eligible, human football players with every pick, and didn't finally snap and draft his cat. Mr. Snugglestein has the fluid hips and lateral speed for the next level, etc. etc.

But we digress. Myers has a plausible shot at a roster spot, considering the Raiders' TE situation consists of three corpses named Zach Miller, Tony Stewart, and Darrell Strong. We've only ever heard of one of them; that'd be Miller, who we picked up off waivers in fantasy football to fill a bye week slot a couple years ago, then immediately dropped after he contributed zero catches for zero yards. Fuck you Zach Miller.

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Miller, seen here playing football like an asshole.

Either way, we hope Myers brings along a wooden stake, as it's entirely possible that he'll need to slay Al Davis in order to save himself from becoming one of the undead.

And then the draft ended, and Mitch King, who we were pretty sure would be picked somewhere around the middle of the draft, was still a free agent. NFL teams can be goddamn stupid sometimes.

More on the free agents tonight.

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we’re genuinely surprised Davis selected actual, eligible, human football players with every pick, and didn’t finally snap and draft his cat. Mr. Snugglestein has the fluid hips and lateral speed for the next level, etc. etc.

That cracked me up.

But seriously, Darius Heyward-Bey? Michael Mitchell? Wha?

Have a "great HD day!" - Jay Paterno

by ReadingRambler on Apr 27, 2009 4:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Al Davis is f'ing insane.

A good executive gets the right people in the right places and lets them do their job. Al Davis micromanages, and does it poorly. Thus the Raiders have not won more than 5 games in a season since ‘02, when they were embarrassed in the Super Bowl by a coach they’d traded for draft picks the prior year.

Yet another reason college > pro.

by rockyh on Apr 27, 2009 4:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

KF and underclassmen

Fletcher and Greene illustrate this staff’s reluctance to play freshmen, underclassmen, guys who aren’t old enough to drink legally downtown. They just don’t trust to talent. It’s loosening up a little bit (Jewel), but when your two top picks started one year each, you don’t have an exception, you have a pattern. I hope they loosen up a bit more, but obviously I don’t understand something.

Anyway, my take is Fletcher and Greene had NFL talent when they were buried behind inferior athletes as well as when they started. They’re achievers, not overachievers. Bruggeman? Self-made man. Greene? They’ve been talking about that guy from his first freshman practice. Walk-on Bruggeman and Freak Greene each had the same number of years as a starter.

Greene is a truly dominant athlete. I am incredulous at his draft position. I’ve only seen two other Iowa running backs as dominant: Eddie, in 68 (from the knothole section); Ronnie Harmon (during the regular season). Both played 10+ years in the bigs. I don’t care if Greene scored 2 on his Wonderlic, and I don’t care if he catches passes like a double amputee. I have never seen an Iowa back alternately concuss, and then spin-juke-outsprint, 180 pound db’s, like Shonn Greene did every week.

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by Bellanca on Apr 27, 2009 10:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

well Greene kinda limited himself to one season as a starter

and I think Jewel was desperation more than loosening up. What else were they going to do? Play Paki?

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Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
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by shake n bake on Apr 27, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure I agree with this

Fletcher was getting plenty of PT as a sophomore and junior; he was essentially the nickel back even though the likes of Western Michigan’s QB was torcherating him. Is your argument that Fletcher should have played more before last season? I don’t think he earned that.

And as for Greene, um, you know that he wasn’t on the team in 2007, right? That wasn’t Ferentz’s decision. In 2006, he was moving his way into the RB rotation—ran for 88 on Purdue on 11 carries after the Boilers gave up—then he got hurt the very next week and was done for the year.

I just don’t know when you’re thinking Greene should have been starting. Certainly not during 2005, when Young was setting the BXI on fire as a sophomore; that’d have been ridiculous. During ’06, as mentioned before, Greene was working his way in and his carries increasing when he went down. What more did you want from KF there?

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by Oops Pow Surprise on Apr 27, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I don't get it either

Even if you want to grant those two, most of the current roster started playing as freshman or sophomores, so I’m not sure how the staff doesn’t play young guys (granted some of it out of necessity, but still):

Bulaga: Started as a freshman
Vandervelde: started as a freshman (was goddamned terrible)
Calloway: started as a sophomore
Richardson: played as a freshman
Eubanks: started as a freshman
Moeaki: played as a freshman and sophomore, would have started if not for Scott Chandler
Ballard: played as a freshman, started as a sophomore
Clayborn: played as a freshman, started as a sophomore
Edds: played as a freshman, started as a sophomore
Speivey: started as a sophomore
Bernstine: played some as a freshman, saw extensive playing time as a sophomore behind two great corners
Prater: saw extensive playing time as a sophomore
Greenwood: started several times as a freshman
Sash: started as a freshman

by NorseHawk on Apr 28, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've done the "what if" game with Shonn, too, but...

I think Oops is right – it’s just tough to see when he really could have played. Albert was great in 2005 (not Shonn-in-2008 great, but still) and Damian was at his peak as a change-of-pace option that year, too. Shonn likely would have gotten more touches in 2006, especially since Albert and Damian both seemed to be dinged up at times that year, but then Shonn got really hurt and that was that. And 2007 was of course the year of No Shonn, so there was no chance there. It is bittersweet to realize that such an amazing RB only had one really good year to strut his stuff, but I think it just broke that way. I guess you could say they should have worked him in more in 2005 – maybe he would have provided a nice complement to Shonn and Damian and helped them grind out wins against Michigan and jNU – but who knows.

As far as Fletcher… he did see time. He was just awful earlier in his career. I still shudder when I think about him against Minnesota in 2006 or Western Michigan in 2007. I have no idea what clicked for him in 2008 – maybe he just needed a sustained run of reps with the 1s, maybe he just found that senior gear that guys like Ramon Ochoa have found in the past – but he elevated his game something fierce. Very glad he did, but I would not have wanted to see a lot more of him earlier in his career. I was terrified for the state of our secondary at the start of the year; the fact that it turned out as strong as it did is a testament to the immense improvement shown by Fletch, the impressive debuts made by Sash and Spievey, and the great coaching of Phil Parker (and Greenwood for keeping everyone on the same page).

I think since 2007 the coaches have shown a stronger tendency to play younger guys, although a lot of that was out of necessity. A disturbingly high level of attrition, a few years of middling recruiting, and a spate of injuries left us pretty bereft of quality upperclassmen in 06/07, which led to a lot of younger guys playing. I’m interested to see how things play out over the next few years as we have a lot of talented upperclassmen and (hopefully) not a lot of injuries and attrition. I think, to an extent, KF has changed his approach – I recall him expressing some regret in 2007 about not playing a true freshman in 2006 that probably could have helped us (I want to say Clayborn, but I’m not positive). If a freshman can contribute immediately, I think they’ll find a way to get him on the field and get him some meaningful snaps — see Prater at CB last year, for instance. Wegher and Davis should provide interesting case studies this fall, too.

by RossWB on Apr 29, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Greene

Will stick, no doubt. Rex Ryan sounded amped about his “pound and ground” attack, and I think he’s sick of Thomas Jones’ hissy fits. Fletcher didn’t start more than a year or two because he, quite frankly, wasn’t good enough. The type of players Iowa usually gets can’t be 4 year starters, they have to develop and usually peak as upper classmen. You saw Fletch in there in ‘06, he wasn’t even better than Shada!

by south_texas_hawk on Apr 27, 2009 11:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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