March Madness, Mat-Style
by RossWB on Mar 19, 2009 7:04 PM CDT
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PrintWhile there is no joy in Hawkeye-ville when it comes to hoops (unless you can find a little schadenfreude in Iowa State's own ongoing suckitude and the jNW LOLcats NIT flameout or you care about the women's team, since they actually win games and get to play in the NCAA tournament), there is one men's sport going on now that we're actually really good at: wrestling.
I'll use this thread to post ongoing updates from the NCAA Wrestling Tournament in St. Louis, MO, where the Hawks are trying to repeat as NCAA champions. Much of the action will also be televised, too:
FRIDAY
10am -- Quarterfinals (ESPNU/ESPN360)
6pm -- Semifinals (ESPN2/ESPNU/ESPN360)
SATURDAY
930 am -- Consolation round (ESPNU)
530pm -- Finals (ESPN/ESPN360)
You can also check out the bracket here
125: #5 Charlie Falck d. Derek Rebar (Bucknell), 11-3
Good start for Charlie. Next up is #12 Anthony Robles (Arizona State). Charlie has a 2-0 career record against Robles, including a 2-1 win earlier this year.
133: #4 Dan Dennis d. Christopher Notte (Okie State), 5-4
Sounds like Dan just kinda hung on for a close win, but so be it. Next up is Tristen DeShazer (Northern Illinois). They've never fought before.
141: Alex Krom (Maryland) d. #4 Alex Tsirtsis, 5-4
By far the biggest loss of the day for the Hawkeyes. Sounds like T-shirt was his unfortunately up to his usual lack of action tricks and this time it backfired on him. Sucks to see a senior kill his shot at a national title in his first match, but hopefully he puts it together to make a strong run through the consolation rounds; he can still finish as high as 3rd. Up next is Vincent Ramirez of North Carolina.
149: #1 Brent Metcalf d. some jobber via pinfall in 6:01.
Ho-hum. But six minutes, Brent? Tsk-tsk... Seriously, Metcalf is awesome. The next lamb to the slaughter is Heinrich Barnes (Oregon State).
157: Nada.
165: #3 Ryan Morningstar d. Donald Jones (WfVU), 7-5 (OT)
Another nail-biter for Morningstar, apparently. He just never makes things easy... but unlike T-Shirt, he did manage to emerge victorious, so hooray for that. Up next is Jason Lapham (Rider).
174: #4 Jay Borschel d. Shane Onufer (Wyoming), 13-1
Slow start, big finish for J-Bo. Up next is Trevor Perry (Indiana); J-Bo is 3-0 all-time against Perry and beat him 10-2 earlier this year.
184: #2 Phil Keddy d. Mikey Moran (Buffalo) via pinfall in 2:28
No messin' around from Phil. Up next is Patrick Flynn (Oklahoma).
197: #8 Clayton Foster (Okie State) d. Chad Beatty, 8-5
The only other loss of the day for the Hawks, although Beatty's wasn't as unexpected as Tsirtsis' loss, considering that he is unseeded in the tourney. Sounds like the knee he injured back at the Big 10 Championships is still bothering him, which is a bummer; hopefully he can at least pick up a few points for the Hawks in the consolation rounds.
285: #7 Dan Erekson d. Nathan Fernandez (Oklahoma) via pinfall in 1:48
Don't mess with the Danimal. Up next is Benjamin Berhow (Minnesota); Erekson beat him 3-2 earlier this year.
TEAM STANDINGS (thru Thursday early action)
1) Iowa State -- 25 pts
2) Iowa -- 22 pts
3) Ohio State -- 17.5 pts
4) Boise State and Nebraska -- 15 pts
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Fantastic.
This is great stuff, Ross. I just wasn’t able to keep up with Hamilton’s liveblog at HawkCentral.
I sure hope that Iowa State’s extra wrestler doesn’t end up being the deciding factor.
¿Quieres chiclets?
Thursday night update...
125: #12 Anthony Robles d. #5 Charlie Falck, 8-3
Apparently Charlie changed into his FAIL pants after the first round. Disappointing (but strangely appropriate, given the funk he’s been in over the latter half of the season) result for Charlie. He needs to pull himself together enough to get us some team points in the consolation rounds over the next few days. Up next is Brendan Byrne of Maryland. The bad news is that Charlie is going to have to win two matches tomorrow morning AND beat either Escobedo (Indiana) or Sanders (Minnesota) – two guys who have beaten him recently – just to get into All-America consideration, I think.
Upset update in 125: Aside from Charlie, #6 James Nicholson (Old Dominion) also got bounced out of the championship bracket. (For the record, I’m not bothering to list 9-seeds beating 8-seeds, because that’s such a thin distinction to begin with.)
133: #4 Dan Dennis d. Tristen DeShazer (NIU), 9-6
Solid enough effort from Dan. Style points are nice, but 133 is such a beartrap of a division that simply staying on the right side of the bracket is good enough. Up next is #5 Andrew Hochstrasser (Boise State) in the Quarterfinals.
Upset update in 133: #3 James Kennedy (ILL) got taken out in the first round by David Marble (Bucknell) and #7 Nick Fanthorpe (ISU) got beaten by #10 Jake Strayer (PSU) in the second round.
141: #4 Alex Tsirtsis d. Vincent Ramirez (UNC), 10-2 (consos)
Nice rebound effort by T-shirt after his first round flameout this morning. Next up would be Trenton Washington (UNI), but he suffered a head injury and is apparently going to miss the rest of the tournament, unfortunately. Good news: T-Shirt gets a bye into the next stage of the consolation rounds. Bad news: he’ll probably have to wrestle #2 Zach Tanelli (Wisco) there; Tanelli beat him back at Big 10s.
Upset update: More than you can shake a stick at. Aside from T-Shirt, #1 Kellen Russell (Mich), #5 Marcus Hoehn (Mizzou), and #2 Zach Tanelli (Wisco) all went out in the second round and #9 Corey Jantzen (Harvard) got taken out in the first round. So four of the top five seeds are already out of contention for the title. Bad news: T-Shirt’s run for 3rd place just got a whole lot tougher. Worse news: two of Iowa’s main competitors in the team race (ISU and fOSU) have two of the favorites to win the championship still alive. This could wind up being a very important weight class.
149: #1 Brent Metcalf d. Heinrich Barnes (Oregon State), pinfall in 3:47
Clearly Brent took my criticism to heart about his “lackluster” effort in round one, as he got a pin in half the time here. Just dominate, baby. Up next is #9 Kyle Terry (Oklahoma)
Upset update: Yo, Brent, it’s Bubba Jenkins… hey man, can I get my manhood back? And, um, my heart? Two weeks after Metcalf put Jenkins through a textbook class in “how to break a man’s spirit and crush it into dust,” Jenkins is apparently still hurtin’. Not only did he lose his first round match to unranked Matthew Fittery (Lockhaven), 12-6, but he also lost his first consolation match to unranked David Jauregui (WfVU), 10-1. So he’s done. That’s right – the #2 seeded wrestler and last year’s national runner-up is toast after just one day of action. DO NOT FUCK WITH BRENT METCALF.
157: no Iowa guy in action
Upset update: Only one so far: #7 Matt Moley (Bloomburg) went down in the second round. Root for #9 Cyler Sanderson (ISU) to go down to #5 JP O’Connor (Harvard) tomorrow, though; the longer he stays in the winner’s bracket, the more points he can get for ISU in the team race, which is of course bar for us.
165: #3 Ryan Morningstar d. Jason Lapham (Rider), 2-0
Hey, it’s M-star: nerve-racking close matches are what to expect out of him at this point. Most importantly, he’s still winning them. Up next is #6 Colt Sponesller (fOSU), who M-star edged out back at B10s, as I recall.
Upset update: #1 Mack Lewnes (Cornell) not only went down in the first round, he also got beat in his first consolation match… so his tourney is already done. #7 Stephen Dwyer (Nebraska) was bounced in the second round.
174: #4 Jay Borschel d. Trevor Perry (Indiana), 8-2
Solid win for JBo. Up next is #5 Raymond Jordan (Mizzou).
Upset update: #6 Steven Anceravage (Cornell) got taken out in the second round.
184: #2 Phil Keddy d. Patrick Flynn (Oklahoma), 7-2
Another solid effort for Phil. Up next is #7 Doug Umbehauer (Rider).
Upset update: #5 Dustin Kilgore (Kent St) went out in the first round, while #6 Joshua Patterson (Binghamton) went out in the second round.
197: Chad Beatty d. John McClure (EMU), 10-4 (consos)
Nice bounceback win for Chad – hopefully a few more are on the way… Up next is Luke Feist (Stanford).
Upset update: #12 Brent Jones (Virg) and #11 Andrew Anderson (UNI) went out in the first round.
285: #7 Dan Erekson d. Ben Berhow (Minn), 10-4
Another great effort from Dan; it’s good to see that the tear that he ended the season on has continued on into the NCAAs. Up next is #2 Mark Ellis (Mizzou), which will be a stiff test for him.
Upset update: #6 Michael Monteiro (CSU-Baker) went out in the second round.
TEAM STANDINGS (thru Thursday late action)
1) Iowa — 33 pts
1) Iowa State — 33 pts
3) Ohio State — 30 pts
4) Nebraska — 24 pts
5) Edinboro — 22.5 pts
Ohio State took over the lead this morning…. Iowa has all 9 in the tournament still, 2 in the semis and Erekson still in the quarters.
Ohio State 54.5; 4 in the championship bracket, 4 in wrestlebacks;
Iowa 52.0; 4 in the championship bracket; 5 in wrestlebakcs;
Edinboro 43.5;
suckClones 40.5
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Beatty and Luke Feist (Stanford)...get it on...
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Iowa State passes Iowa and Nebraska and is now in 2nd place
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Beatty rides out Feist in the first TB session.
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
Feist in on a shot and scores the td to win 3-1. Beatty is eliminated.
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1. Ohio State 61.5; 2. ISU 55; 3. Nebraska 53.5; 4. Iowa 53.
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SUMMARY
125 — Falck two consolation wins, comes from behind to win his first on a bodylock pin with 30 seconds left.
133 — Dennis lost 9-8 to Boise State’s Andrew Hochstrasser.
141 — Tsirtsis won a medical forfeit and then lost 6-5 in a tiebreaker against Zach Tanelli.
149 — Metcalf won by major.
165 — Morningstar beat Ohio State’s Colt Sponseller with an OT takedown.
174 — Borschel lost 3-2 against Missouri’s Raymond Jordan.
184 — Keddy gave up a late takedown and lost to Rider’s Doug Umbehauer in a tiebreaker.
197 — Beatty got eliminated in the third SV period of his first consolation match.
Hwt. — Erekson lost 6-5 against Missouri’s Mark Ellis.
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
Geez, maybe we're not so good at this wrestling thing after all...
Ugh, what a disappointing set of results to come home to. I went to work this morning thinking that we would snap out of our funk… whoops. Only TWO guys still alive in the championship bracket?!
Really disappointed that Dennis, Borschel, and Keddy already lost.
Results/Friday night session preview
125: Charlie Falck d. Brendan Byrne (Maryland) via pinfall in 6:30 and Brandon Zoetewey (CSU-Baker), 6-1 (consos)
Good start for Charlie in the consos. Next up is #11 Zachary Sanders (Minn). I would say this match is “must win,” but at this point we’ve pretty much pissed away any leeway we had with the team race and we need to be in must win mode from here on out. Plus, he’s a fucking LOLpher — we want to beat him just because. Get by Sanders, and Falck will wrestle either #7 Joey Flo (Oklahoma) v. Nicholas Bedelyon (Kent St) later tonight.
Upset update: The one-legged man struck again, as #12 Anthony Robles (Az St) knocked off #4 Brandon Precin (jNW). Otherwise, the 1, 2, and 3 seeds are all alive still.
133: #5 Andrew Hochstrasser (Boise St) d. #4 Dan Dennis, 9-8
Weak sauce. Up next is #11 Mike Grey (Cornell). Should he win that, he’ll wrestle again tonight against the winner of #3 James Kennedy (Illini) v. #9 Lou Ruggirello (Hofstra). Go Hofstra.
Upset update: Aside from Dan’s loss, things are continuing as normal here.
141: Alex Tsirtsis d. Trenton Washington (UNI) via injury forfeit and lost to #2 Zach Tanelli (Wisco), 6-5 (consos)
Thus ends T-Shirt’s national championships. Yet again, he won’t be an All-American. This has been a disappointing weight for the Hawks for a few years now, as LeClere wasn’t any more productive while T-Shirt was redshirting last year. We need to find a guy who can make a run at this weight; perhaps either Slaton or Dennis can move up a weight…
Upset update: None aside from unranked Alex Krom (Maryland) continuing his run by beating #12 Drew Lashaway (Kent St). It would really be nice if #7 Chris Drouln (Az St) could beat #3 J Jaggers (fOSU) tonight…
149: #1 Brent Metcalf d. #9 Kyle Terry (Oklahoma), 14-6
Thank Christ for Metcalf. At least he’s a rock. Up next is #4 Lance Palmer (fOSU). Given all our other woes, we may need as many bonus points as possible out of Metcalf in this tourney, although his remaining opponents certainly won’t make it easy (why’d you have to leave us so soon, Bubba?!).
Upset update: No more upsets since Bubba bailed on us.
157
Upset update: None. The top 4 seeds are all alive in the semis… how weird to see a bracket actually playing out according to form.
165: #3 Ryan Morningstar d. #6 Colt Sponseller (fOSU), 4-2 in OT
He gives ya a heartache, but so far lady luck is still smiling on Ryan in all these close matches. Pray she keeps doing so through tomorrow night. Maybe he’s this year’s Mark Perry. Up next is #2 Andrew Howe (Wisco), who has been M-star’s nemesis for a while now. He really needs to get past him.
Upset update: #4 Moza Fay (UNI) fell to #12 Jarrod King (Edinboro). It would be nice if Mr. King could next upset #8 Jonathan Reader (ISU)…
174: #5 Raymond Jordan (Mizzou) d. #4 Jay Borschel, 3-2
Where oh where, is the old JBo? I miss him. Up next is #6 Steve Anceravage (Cornell). Get by him and he’ll have to take on the winner of #8 Christopher Henrich v. John Dergo (Illinois) later tonight.
Upset update: #2 Michael Cannon (American) lost to #7 Mike Miller (Central Michigan).
184: #7 Doug Umbehauer d. #2 Phil Keddy, 8-4 in OT
Phil?! Aw dammit. So much for a fourth crack at Herbert. Up next is Alex Dolly (UNI),; get by him and he’ll face either #11 Louis Caputo (Harvard) or AJ Kissel (Purdue).
Upset update: #12 Vince Jones (Nebraska) d. #4 Kirk Smith (Boise State).
197: Luke Feist (Stanford) d. Chad Beatty, 3-1 (OT) (consos)
And thus ends Chad Beatty’s national championship run. Shame he couldn’t make it to the All-American stage, but considering the expectations weren’t terribly high for him to begin with, I’m much less disappointed with Chad’s performance here than a lot of other guys on the team. Heal up and get better for next year, Chad.
285: #2 Mark Ellis d. #7 Dan Erekson, 6-5
Damnation. Up next is Joe Fendone (Edinboro), who’s been pinning his way through the consolation bracket so far. Get by him and he’ll face either #11 Zachery Rey (Lehigh) or Zach Sheaffer (Pitt) later tonight.
Hugely disappointing morning session for the Hawks. Despite the deficit they face now, the national title isn’t out of the question — the main thing they need to do is just wrestle to the level that they’re capable of (i.e., their seeds). Do that and good things will follow. That said, it wouldn’t hurt if some other schools could take out those pesky Nebraska, Cyclone, and Buckeye wrestlers…
He gets another match with Kennedy later tonight.
2-1 against him so far this year, with both wins coming in the regular season. Kennedy got the better of him at Big 10s.
Fuck, fOSU already has 2 in the finals.
We may not be able to catch them, no matter what we do in the consos. This fucking sucks.
Just as a point of comparison...
Ohio State finished a distant sixth at Big 10s.
And now they’re the favorites to win the fucking national title. Fucking hell.
R U fing kinding me?
i to to dinner and come back to THIS??
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
Thank God for Brent
6-2 over Palmer.
What a fucking joke. How does Palmer not get warned for stalling once? He didn’t do shit.
Metcalf gets #3 Darrion Caldwell (NC St)
Caldwell is the only guy to beat Metcalf in his college career, albeit on a bullshit call.
I was hoping a Metcalf breakdown of Bubba could become an annual tradition at nationals, but I guess not.
Metcalf: "He was content to lose by three points."
And the refs were fucking content to let him do that, too.
Palmer had no illusions about trying to win that match; he just wanted to keep the damage low. And he succeeded.
Watching 157...
Who would have thought we’d get as many pts out of Matt Ballweg at NCAAs as we would Alex Tsirtsis? aka, a big fat ZERO.
Actually, that's not true.
I forgot that T-Shirt won two matches here, albeit one by injury forfeit.
Still: massively disappointing showing by our seniors here.
174
Borschel gets fucking PINNED by Anceravage, who he’s owned in the past. No A-A for JBo.
And the hits keep on comin’…
The only saving grace of this nightmare is that it should provide Brands with more than enough ammunition for the off-season.
I have no idea if Iowa has a mathematical chance at still winning the team title.
But, regardless, they clearly do not DESERVE to win the team title.
I’m not sure anyone but Metcalf showed up ready to wrestle this week.
What a crock of shit.
I don't know the exact math..
but yeah, I think so.
And, like I said, even if we’re not, who cares? This pathetic was absolutely pathetic. JBo, T-Shirt, and Falck not even placing as All-Americans is a fucking disgrace.
er, "this performance was absolutely pathetic"
I’m filled with so much rage I can’t even write clearly.
I was worried about this after the Big 10
I didn’t think we did nearly well enough there to convince me that we were going to win the N.C… By the way is M* the most boring wrestler ever?
by shada's revenge on Mar 20, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought B10s would serve as a wake-up call, maybe.
Guess most of our guys just hit the snooze button.
Plus: we seemed to have such a huge edge over the other teams… maybe our guys thought that too and got complacent. I hope they get hungry again next year.
As far as M*… I think there are a few guys on other teams (cough cough Varner) that give him a run for that title, but as far as Hawkeyes go, M* has gotta be way up there. Perry at least did some funky stuff every now and then. And, oh yeah: HE FUCKING WON WHEN IT MATTERED.
T-Shirt and M* have been so maddening to watch… thanks for being Hawks, boys, but I really hope we’re able to find guys who are less frustrating to fill those spots next year.
didn't brands break a chalk board or something to get these guys fired up?
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
Lots...
133: Dennis (and Slaton, last year’s nat’l runner-up… he didn’t wrestle this year b/c he had trouble making weight early in the year and Dennis came roaring out of the gate… odds are one of them moves to 141 next yr)
149: Metcalf (thank god)
157: Ballweg (can’t be worse!)
174: JBo (was so good at nat’ls last yr…)
184: Keddy (was so good most of this yr… I think Herbert will finally be gone too)
197: Beatty (plus some guys to challenge him, I think)
285: Erekson (has come on strong this yr)
125, 141, and 165 are the big holes to fill next year. As far as I know, we have some very promising guys at 125. At 141, we have LeClere (who wrestled last year at that weight, but got beat out by T-Shirt this year and was hurt much of the year) and probably either Slaton or Dennis. Not sure what’s available at 165.
Whoops
I forgot that M-star was just a JR this year, so he’ll be back next year.
Hopefully he’s able to build off the success he had at the end of the tourney here…
In any event, the only guys we have to replace are Falck at 125 and Tsirtsis at 141.
I assume so.
Dennis loses to Kennedy in the consos and Pucillo wins to guarantee OSU THREE fucking finalists.
More consos
285 – Erekson wins by injury forfeit. Better than us actually having to wrestle, I guess…
Keddy is going now.
I think...
Keddy and Erekson can finish no worse than 6th now. Ditto for M* if he completely folds up shop tomorrow morning.
how many points of buckeyes lose in a final? isn't it like 8 or 9 just for showing up?
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
I think they have already factored in the automatic 2nd place pts.
You just get more pts if you win.
Good news for us there is that they will only be favored at 141. Gomez should be a slight favorite at 133 and Herbert will definitely be favored at 184. But Jaggers will be favored over the dude from Old Dominion.
We may need to win everything and hope for bonus pts AND hope for OSU to lose everything… I’m not sure.
That's how they did it last year when I was down there
It took my friend and I all weekend to figure out how they did the scoring. They factor in the the lowest place you can get and then add bonus points for finishing higher (ie- both wrestlers in a fifth place match get 6th place points, then points awarded for winning the match)
by shada's revenge on Mar 20, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
Big Z for ISU ran out of magic beans, apparently… lost to a dude from Dook.
Given our own miserable failures, I’ll try and find a little schadenfreude in ISU’s choking, too.
The only saving grace i see
is that we have 4 in the consolation. if they keep (start?) winning and all finish pretty well we could build up some points. fOSU could conceivably gain no points tomorrow… wishful thinking, but at this point, I think that is all we have
by shada's revenge on Mar 20, 2009 8:59 PM CDT reply actions
We'll have 3 guys going in the morning session...
Dennis will be in the 7th place match and M*, Keddy, and Erekson will all be trying to get to 3rd place.
fOSU will only have one guy going tomorrow morning: Palmer. It sure would be nice if we would jack-shit in the consos — you know, just like he did fuck-all in his match with Metcalf.
Bad news is they’ll have THREE guys going in the evening session, while we’ll only have Brent…
But i am saying
hypothetically we could take the lead in the morning or with Brent and then have to have them lose all 3 championship matches… it’s the only scenario I see working
by shada's revenge on Mar 20, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's probably right.
I feel OK about two of the guys OSU will be facing in the finals tomorrow night (Gomez and Herbert), but Jaggers is going to be tough to beat. I’ll be rooting my ass off for that Old Dominion dude, though.
I’m going to feel so dirty rooting for fucking Herbert, though.
I 100% agree
with that entire comment…
by shada's revenge on Mar 20, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't believe they are airing the finals at 5:30 tomorrow
it was like 7:30 last year… but we were there until at least 11 for the trophy presentations and stuff, so I guess that is good
by shada's revenge on Mar 20, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions
I was yelling so loud at the TV at the end of M*'s match...
that I managed to scare my dog so much that he went and hid in his kennel. God, he is so damn frustrating to watch. And, since Comcast doesn’t carry ESPNU, I won’t have a chance to watch his consos matches tomorrow… I’m not going to miss watch M* matches.
You should check to see if you can get ESPN360
I don’t know how Comcast works, but if you get your internet through Comcast too, you may be able to watch on 360. I know that by getting Mediacom cable and internet I get 360 free. You also have to have an ESPN id
by shada's revenge on Mar 20, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I had it when I had Mediacom back in Iowa.
Unfortunately, Comcast is a bunch of dickbags. They don’t have an agreement with ESPN360. Maybe some enterprising soul will be streaming it tomorrow. I live in hope…
wow
does comcast really suck more than mediacom?
by shada's revenge on Mar 20, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I prefer to think that they both suck in different ways.
Comcast did have BTN before Mediacom AND has the overflow channels, which is nice.
And they have more HD channels, which is great. And NFL Network, which Mediacom didn’t offer.
But I think they charge more. And no ESPNU. Nor any ESPN360.
Actually... it sounds like this could be a more interesting race than it seemed earlier tonight, despite our massive cock-ups all over the brackets.
The guys on the wrestling board at Hawkeye Report are saying the final team scores after tonight will be:
1) fOSU — 84.5 pts
2) Iowa — 81 pts
3) ISU — 69 pts
4) Nebraska — 68.5 pts
Not sure if that’s right or not (dunno if that factored in Varner’s pts for ISU), but it makes things very interesting… ESPECIALLY since it sounds like Dennis is basically guaranteed 3 pts tomorrow as his opponent in the 7th place match is going to injury default (so, 1 pt for win + 2 pt for forfeit). So it may be effectively 84.5 to 84 for OSU. We’ll have three more guys to go in the consos to try and rack up more pts, while OSU will just have Palmer. A Metcalf win in the finals would cancel out a Jaggers win (unless either gets BP, of course), so then we’d just need for the other two finalists to lose AND for the M*, Keddy, and Erekson to outscore Palmer in the consos. Hmm.
(I recant my hyperbolic “we don’t deserve to win the title” spiel… I was angry. A national title is still a national title. And I sure as fuck don’t want the Buckeyes to win one.)
Those are the standings that are on the ncaa website
so, yes, everything is factored in and we do have a shot. But it was nice going to sleep on Friday last year knowing that we had won it, wasn’t it?
by shada's revenge on Mar 20, 2009 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions
remember the good old days of wrapping up the team title saturday morning?
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
Yeah, that was a much sweeter feeling.
I’m just shocked that we actually have a reasonable shot at this thing even after all the fuck-ups today.
Of course, that also just makes it even MORE frustrating that guys like JBo and Falck and T-Shirt shit the bed so bad… just a few more wins from them and we would be breathing a LOT more comfortably…
Saturday breakdown
It looks like it’s just a two-team race now between Ohio State and Iowa. ISU only has 3 guys alive in the tourney — Reader and Z in the consos and Varner in the 197 final. They can’t get enough pts to catch Iowa or OSU.
125 – doesn’t matter for either team
133 – Iowa has Dennis still alive in the consos. He’s wrestling #8 Joe Baker (Navy) in the 7th place match and Baker is heavily rumored to be injury defaulting in that match, which would give Iowa 3 pts (1 pt for win + 2 pts for forfeit).
OSU still has Reece Humphrey going in the final; root hard for #1 Franklin Gomez (MSU) to beat him. Gomez beat him 7-4 in the B10 final, I think.
141 – OSU still has J Jaggers going in the final; root hard for #8 Ryan Williams (Old Dominion). Cindarella story at the wrestling NCAAs? Let’s fucking hope so.
149 – Go Brent Go. Brent needs to beat #3 Darrion Caldwell (NC St) and some bonus pts wouldn’t hurt. He lost to him last year on a BS call, but beat him 10-1 earlier this year.
OSU also has #4 Lance Palmer going in the consos tomorrow. First up for him is #6 Jake Patacsil (Purdue). Palmer beat him twice already this year, 8-4 and 12-3. Should he win, he’ll face the winner of #7 Bryce Saddoris (Navy) v. #5 Kyle Ruschell (Wisco). He hasn’t wrestled Saddoris, but he’s 2-0 against Ruschell, beating him 3-0 and 7-4.
157 – doesn’t matter for either team
165 – Iowa has M* going tomorrow morning. First up for him is #4 Moza Fay (UNI); Fay beat him earlier this year 3-2. If he can get by him, he’ll face the winner of Andrew Rendos (Bucknell) v. #8 Jonathan Reader (ISU). He beat both guys earlier this year, albeit by his usual “slimmest of margins” strategy: 5-4 (OT) against Reader and 2-1 against Rendos.
174 – doesn’t matter for either team
184 – Iowa has Keddy going tomorrow morning. First up is #12 Vince Jones (Nebby); he beat him 8-5 earlier this year. If he can get by him, he’ll face either #7 Doug Umbehauer (Rider) or #9 Joe LeBlanc (Wyoming). He lost to Umbehauer earlier in this tourney and beat LeBlanc 17-5 earlier this year.
OSU also has Pucillo going in the finals against #1 Jake Herbert (jNW). They haven’t wrestled yet this year. Root hard for Herbert.
197 – doesn’t matter for either team
285 – Iowa has Erekson going tomorrow morning. First up for him is #1 David Zabriskie (ISU); he’s 0-2 against Z this year, losing to him 5-1 and 3-2. If he can get by him, he’ll have to deal with either #3 Jermall Porter (Kent St) or #4 Jared Rosholt (Okie St). Rosholt beat him 9-5 earlier this year; he hasn’t wrestled Porter yet.
I think Dan definitely has the toughest road to pts of any of our guys remaining in the consos.
best predictions for final points?
or HARD LIQUIOR?
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
Tourney scoring makes my head hurt, but I'll try...
Iowa
Dennis: 3 pts
Metcalf: 4 pts
Morningstar: 2.5 pts (beats Fay, loses to Reader)
Keddy: 4.5 pts (beats both guys)
Erekson: 2.5 pts (beats Z, loses to Rosholt)
total: 97.5 pts
Ohio St
Humphrey: 0 pts (loses to Gomez)
Jaggers: 4 pts (beats Williams)
Palmer: 4.5 pts (beats both guys)
Pucillo: 0 pts (loses to Herbert)
total: 93
The first rd matches tomorrow morning are VITAL.
thanks. your best effort is better than me & my abacus
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
Actually
wins in the first rd of consos tomorrow are worth 3.5 pts (3 pts for finishing no worse than 4th + 0.5 pts for advancing in the wrestlebacks). So that would be another pt each for my predictions for M* and Erekson.
BHGP should make you official wrestling guy
Good work, man
by shada's revenge on Mar 20, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions
i 2nd that. now go get our guys ready to bring home the hardware!
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
Next up for you my friend?
…working on universal health care. Or, moitoring Iowa’s use of the stimulus money. Splitting the atom. We’ll find things for you. This was awesome. Thanks!
"When you don't know that you don't know, it's a lot different than when you do know that you don't know." Bill Parcells
by StoopsMyAss on Mar 21, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Big thanks
to RossWB for this comprehensive coverage. Nicely done.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
Palmer from fOSU leads Patacsil from Purdon't
8-5 in 3rd
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 9:57 AM CDT reply actions
That is disappointing
But not unexpected. The onus is on the Iowa guys to wrestle and win their matches.
Apparently the LOLpher, Sanders, stomped on the one-legged kid's back after their match.
Classy move, douchebag. He got destroyed in the match, too.
The one legged kid has the kid from Indiana
Escobedo, who I believe was the champ at 125 last year, but this is for third
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, Escobedo did win 125 last year.
It’s a tough division, though. (As Charlie found out all too painfully.)
I guess I’ll root for Robles; he’s a pretty amazing story.
I was wrong
Escobedo lost his conso semi… wrestling for 5th against asshole LOLpher… I hope Escobedo breaks his face
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
On HR...
they’re saying that Sanders got DQ’d. Which sounds pretty deserved. And if that’s true, Escobedo would win 5th by forfeit, I guess.
Except they are wrestling right now..
Escobedo up 2-0
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Looks like he's trying
up 7-0 in second
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Keddy is wrestling Vinnie Jones
who, incidentally, I loved in Snatch
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 10:17 AM CDT reply actions
Keddy wins 6-1
Takes on Umberhauer from Rider for third
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 10:23 AM CDT reply actions
EREKSON PIN
fall over Zabriske of ISU!
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 10:23 AM CDT reply actions
3 FOR 3
well, if this is our final stand, we are making a hell of a run at it
great job by M*, Keddy, and Erekson
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 10:24 AM CDT reply actions
Chances at repeating looking pretty good now, RossWB?
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 10:25 AM CDT reply actions
Better, that's for sure.
Winning the first matches of the morning was crucial for us because that’s where most of the available pts were for us. I think we can only get 1 pt per remaining consos win, unless we can get some bonus pts, too. With that being the case, we can’t get out to a lead big enough that it won’t matter what OSU does tonight. So we’ll still need to root for some OSU losses tonight.
Here's how I look at it
we have the lead right now. We have 5 matches left (1 7th place, 3 3rds, 1 championship match), they have 4 (1 3rd, 3 championship). We have to win more matches than they do, and we’ve got one more chance than they do to win matches
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
We may have more of a cushion than I thought...
IOWA — 93.5 pts
+3 for Dennis at 133 (sounds like he will get the inj. default by the other guy)
That gives us 96.5 pts to 88.0 for fOSU.
If Keddy, M*, or Big Dan can win, that would offset any win by Palmer in the consos. Obviously any additional wins or more bonus pts, would just give us more of a cushion.
A Metcalf win will offset a likely Jaggers win (hopefully Jaggers won’t pin the dude like he has the last two guys he’s faced, even though that’s only 2 more pts).
If that’s the case – and we assume that only one of Keddy, M*, and Big Dan win this morning – we would STILL be up 8.5 pts, so fOSU would need wins from BOTH Humphrey and Pucillo AND bonus pts from somewhere.
Obviously it’s not won until it’s official, but I am feeling a lot better than I was earlier… HUGE showing by the Hawks so far this morning.
Looks like dennis is going to wrestle
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Fail on my part
Dennis does get the forfeit
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Team score
I think we’re up 93.5 to 88.0 over fOSU now after Big Dan’s big big win (and bonus pts for the pin).
As of 10:30
1st- Iowa 93.5
2nd- fOSU 88.0
3rd- Cyclowns 78.5
4th- Nebraska 74.5
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 10:47 AM CDT reply actions
As of 11:00
We have 96.5… all others the same
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
RossWB
http://www.uni.edu/ncaa-wrestling/scoring.html
my buddy found this from 1997… is it still accurate?
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 11:00 AM CDT reply actions
between a possibly outdated scoring sheet and my stupid math
I would say that our max score if everyone wins is 109.5 and fOSU’s is 105.5… that is if everyone on both sides wins
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
As if Iowa State wasn't frustrated enough with this tournament.
Ereckson sticking Z had to be a soul crusher.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
No doubt
Who does Iowa State even have left
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Varner wrestles tonight.
He was in one hell of a match last night.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, Varner is the only guy alive in the championship brackets.
Z and Reader are the only guys left in the consos.
you watching on the U?
I don’t get it
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah.
Down here in Muscatine the cable package isn’t all that bad. We get the BigTen Network in our basic package..
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Ruschell rides Palmer thru the 2nd
Gets an escape 20 seconds into the third and is now down just 1 point. 3-4 Palmer, 90 seconds left. Ruschell could build the RT necessary to send this to OT.
¿Quieres chiclets?
Reversal, not escape. My mistake.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
2 point near fall for Ruschell.
Palmer is in trouble. Iowa fans are ecstatic.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
can i be the first to say
WOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! Ruschell 5-4
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
So anything we get in 3rd place matches is gravy now right?
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 11:33 AM CDT reply actions
Looks that way.
I believe OSU can manage 12 more points. So if the Hawkeyes lose the rest of their matches OSU would win. That’s assuming the worst. If Metcalf wins that makes it 100.5, which would mean that OSU would fall half a point short if they win all of their finals. Again, assuming they all win without bonus points.
This is only my second year following wrestling, though, so my math may be wrong.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, I meant if Iowa loses out and OSU wins out they could win.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
I think OSU can get 15 in the finals
4 for 1st place plus 1 for the win, and then what ever bonus points…
how about e get three pins and put it to rest
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it's just 4 pts + bonus pts
So 12 poss. pts for them, plus any bonus pts they might get. Jaggers is a real threat for bonus pts, IMO.
Where is that asshole Buckeye
that popped into the basketball thread to rub their lead in our faces
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 11:38 AM CDT reply actions
That was a bit odd.
Although, I don’t think he meant any harm. I have a feeling we won’t see him back here, though.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Everything in here is good-natured I believe
As was my asking where he was now… it wasn’t the scale of us invading the SC website before the bowl game
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
That's just eleventy
He writes Eleven Warriors, and he probably wouldn’t know a takedown if it walked up and introduced itself. In other words, he’s just like me.
storminspank: "Or we could join you can take our pants off."
by Patrick Vint on Mar 21, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
What's M*'s history with the guy he is facing for 3rd?
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 11:44 AM CDT reply actions
Oh, man
he has to beat a Cyclown for 3rd with the team NC on the line, right?
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Looks that way.
Watching Morningstar is heart wrenching. Reader’s a solid wrestler, should be a good one.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Morningstar gives up a penalty point
But Brands has to keep his cool to avoid losing a team point. After the job the Hawkeyes were getting from the officials yesterday, Brands must’ve really been in their ears.
¿Quieres chiclets?
Morningstar 2!!! With 16 seconds left
8 seconds to ride and take this to OT.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Morningstar with a deep single
Scramble and eventual TD. Win in SV. Phenomenal work.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Wow, thanks for that.
If nothing else, M* matches are always exciting at the finish…
Way to finish strong, Ryan. I wish you could have done that against Howe last night, but better late than never.
Go to this site
http://www.ncaa.com/sports/m-wrestl/ncaa-m-wrestl-body.html
live stats is scores of the matches that are going on
updated brackets are the individual weight class brackets
team standings updates every half-hour or so
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Our boys have come out on fire today
Where was this all weekend?
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 11:57 AM CDT reply actions
God only knows...
But I’m glad they found their mojo this morning.
But, yeah, if they’d had this kind of effort all weekend, we would have ran away with the title.
This kind of effort is what you were screaming for last night
and rightfully so. They are finally working as hard as you are at this thing. Do we deserve to win now?
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for the coverage, gentlemen
Big Ten Network is playing women’s softball in my time zone……
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Mar 21, 2009 12:00 PM CDT reply actions
Wrestling's on ESPN U
It’s much better here than BTN.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, thanks
Pretty sure I don’t get that. I do have Oxygen, though, so that’s nice
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Mar 21, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
KXNO
D.M. sports radio host drops at least 12 on-air F-bombs.
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Mar 21, 2009 12:00 PM CDT reply actions
Audio
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Mar 21, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
In case you didn't realize it, there's f-words in the audio link.
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Mar 21, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Could you make out what they were arguing about?
I heard, “I know you were in the hall of fame…dumbass”
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Something about one of them using credentials that weren't theirs
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Mar 21, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Cotlar had 2 sets of credentials for the H.S. boys tourney
and didn’t give it to the other guy
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Understandable
“I’m going to fucking clock you”
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Mar 21, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what I am assuming from the article
and from Marty saying, “You had 2 sets of credentials, Larry, that’s not right.”
“Get the fuck out of this fucking studio”
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
At any rate
Any time you have a guy named Marty and a guy named Larry yelling fuck you’s back and forth on the air, it makes me happy.
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Mar 21, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
That was enjoyable
thanks for the link
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I was hunting team standings....
Saw headlines fOSU was winnng.. then saw the ncaa team championship standings I posted and was a tad confused hate to cr21 you this morning just hungover and nuttin was making sense…
fOSU was winning this morning
we have had a huge comeback this morning and have taken a tenuous lead
Morningstar has won two matches to take third at 165
Dennis won by forfeit to take 7th at 133
Keddy at 184 and Erekson at HWT have won to advance to third place matches
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Nebraska and Mizzou on the mat
But the talk is all Iowa. They’re not even doing PbP…
¿Quieres chiclets?
Just talking about the heart shown by team after falling under tremendous pressure
People were discussing the Hawkeye meltdown, but Brands got his guys fired up and they came out on fire today.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Keddy taken down at the end of the first, but escapes to make it 2-1 going into the 2nd.
¿Quieres chiclets?
No significant time.
I think Umb has 25 or so.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Another escape from Keddy early in the second. 2-2
Just one shot in the second period, nothing really going here. Keddy looks like he may be content to try and ride Umbenhauer thru the 3rd.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Keddy shoots, but is countered
Umbehauer takes 2 more and is up 5-2 with less than a minute remaining.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Escape with 40 left
Keddy still needs a TD for OT.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Shot is stuffed.
Keddy takes 4th place. Iowa still leads OSU by 9.5 points.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
That hurts
maybe big dan will stick his guy and get us a bigger cushion
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Mexican't
have they given updated standings lately?
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 12:23 PM CDT reply actions
Iowa 97.5, OSU 88.
Ereckson yet to wrestle.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
how did morningstar winning only get us 1 pt
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, sir.
If I have followed Andy Hamilton’s blog correctly, then consolation wins are 1 point, plus 2 potential bonus points. Morningstar won by decision in SV.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
because some of the pts were already factored in with that first win this morning
That’s why the first matches were so huge for Iowa. LOTS more pts available in them.
would like erekson to score a fall
that way osu would need bonus points and 3 championships to win… plus metcalf could put it away
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 12:27 PM CDT reply actions
Pre match notes for erekson's match
says that a win could all but lock the title hopes
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 12:34 PM CDT reply actions
A win would put us up 10.5...
So if Metcalf manages 4 points, we’d be up 14.5. Yeah…OSU would need 3 wins and at least 1 fall and a major to win, I think.
Considering that Herbert has to be beaten for that to happen, I just can’t see it. Metcalf winning should be all that the Hawkeyes need.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow. Announcers just mentioned that Okie State managed just one AA
That’s pretty incredible. Brands coming back to Iowa City may very well have affected college wrestling nationwide.
¿Quieres chiclets?
I'm not sure they'll be down for long...
it sounds like they kind of knew this wouldn’t be their year so they redshirted a bunch of promising guys to build for the future. I think they’ll be back before too long, same as the LOLphers.
Sounds like Erekson been very aggressive
nothing to show for it
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 12:35 PM CDT reply actions
Not sure. I missed it.
Absolutely crazy scramble there, and the score is 4-4 after an escape, TD, escape.
Erekson takes a shot from too far out and Rosholt counters for 2. Under 20 seconds. Iowa heads into tonight up 9.5.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
how we doing today? did we wrap it up yet?
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
close... erekson in tight match right now
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
odds of pulling a rabbit out of a hat? w/ jbrutus having 3 in the champ bracket?
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
If Metcalf wins
Iowa will be up 13.5. Buckeyes need to win all three to overtake us.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
If metcalf wins
fOSU needs three champs plus a fall and a major
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 12:41 PM CDT reply actions
That was supposed be a reply
to pfac51
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
looks like erekson lost...so he got 8th? and all-american status? how many pts for 8th???
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
Erekson finished 3rd.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
good. he's got a goal for next yr then...
thanks for keeping this up….
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
Whoops.
Got a lil excited there.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I think, since Erekson was beaten they'll just need 3 wins with 2 majors.
For 14 points and a half point team win.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
that's too close for my comfort....
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
I think OSU is only favored in one of their three finals tonight.
I think most are assuming that it’s pretty much over since all Iowa needs is for Metcalf and jNW’s Herbert to win for the Hawkeyes to win their 22nd National Championship.
With that being said, Ross, is the Hodge trophy won tonight? Or has either Metcalf or Herbert done enough this weekend to sway the vote?
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, OSU will only be favored a 141, with Jaggers
Gomez should be a slight favorite over Humphrey at 133 and Herbert will be a definite favorite over Pucillo at 184. A Gomez wins gives us a LOT of breathing room. If he wins, then Ohio State needs to hope for their other two guys to win AND get bonus pts AND for Metcalf to lose. I’m not sure which would be more surprising – Metcalf losing or Herbert giving up bonus pts to Pucillo…
I think the Hodge is pretty up in the air. Metcalf was on a tear, but he’s slowed down a little the last couple matches (not helped by the stall-riffic Mr. Palmer last night, of course). Herbert has also been really good in the tourney. You also have to figure that he has the “senior” edge going for him. If Metcalf goes out and destroys Caldwell, though, it might be tough to not give it to him.
Disappointing finishes by Keddy and Erekson
But a very good morning overall for the Hawks. They did almost all of what they needed to do and put themselves in a pretty good spot going into the evening matches, up 9.5 pts with Metcalf still to wrestle.
Hopefully OSU does no better than a split of the early matches and then Metcalf can go out and lock up the title for the Hawks in his match. Then we won’t have to worry about what Herbert does.
FYI: FINALS ON TV TONIGHT -- ESPN @ 5:30 CST (live)
Iowa won’t have anyone involved except Metcalf (he’ll be in the fourth match), but the 133 and 141 matches will be important to watch because Ohio State has guys going in them.
Quickie preview:
125: #1 Paul Donahoe (Edinboro) v. #2 Troy Nickerson (Cornell)
From gay porn scandal to potential national champion? Only in America! These two look pretty evenly matched… I’ll pick Donahoe to win a close one because he’s looked really good so far in this tourney.
133: #1 Franklin Gomez (MSU) v. #2 Reece Humphrey (fOSU)
Go Gomez Go. Gomez has beaten him twice already this year… hopefully the third time isn’t the charm for Humphrey. I’ll pick Gomez to win another close one.
141: #8 Ryan Williams (Old Dominion) v. #3 J Jaggers (fOSU)
I certainly hope that the ODU kid wins, but Jaggers has been on an absolute tear. I expect him to win pretty comfortably; hopefully Williams can at least avoid giving up bonus pts.
149: #1 Brent Metcalf (Iowa) v. #3 Darrion Caldwell (NC State)
There could be an incredible atmosphere for this match, as a Metcalf win could clinch the team title for Iowa… and he has to do it against the one guy to ever beat him, albeit on a pretty bullshit call. DRAMA. Of course, Metcalf already kinda avenged that loss when he beat him earlier this year, 10-1. But a win here would be a LOT sweeter and a LOT more meaningful. I think he gets a comfortable win.
157: #1 Jordan Burroughs (Nebraska) v. #2 Mike Poeta (Illinois)
Burroughs really likes to push the action and Poeta is no slouch himself, so this could be a really fun match. I like Poeta to sneak out a win.
165: #12 Jarrod King (Edinboro) v. #2 Andrew Howe (Wisco)
This, on the other hand, will probably not be too exciting, since Howe wrestles with the pace of a sloth on quaaludes much of the time. But as ugly as his style is, it’s also pretty damn effective, so I’ll pick him to get another close win.
174: #1 Steve Luke (Michigan) v. #7 Mike Miller (Central Mich)
Miller is on a nice run, but I don’t think he’ll get by Luke.
184: #1 Jake Herbert (jNW) v. #3 Mike Pucillo (fOSU)
Herbert can be annoying to watch at times, but he’s also really, really tough. Pucillo ducked him at their dual meet earlier this year and Keddy beat Pucillo at Big 10s, so they haven’t faced off all year. Herbert just looks too tough, though.
197: #1 Craig Brester (Nebby) v. #2 Jake Varner (ISU)
Can Varner win the big one or will he do as he has done so many times in the past and choke up a storm on the big stage? I’m not one to bet against history.
285: #5 Konrad Dudziak (Duke) v. #2 Mark Ellis (Mizzou)
The Dude(ziak) looked good in knocking off #1 Jared Zabriskie (ISU – lol) and I’ll guess that he’ll keep his nice run going for one more match.
Seedings mattered more in this tourney than they do in some of them — 7 of the 10 finals feature the #1 seed and 6 of them feature the #2 seed, including 5 #1 v. #2 match-ups. Another pretty strong showing for the Big 10, too, with 9 finalists. And the Big 10 will be strongly favored to get 6 national champions. They’re guaranteed to get 2 champions since there are two B10 v. B10 match-ups (133 and 184) and they’ll be favorites at 141, 149, 165, and 174.
Looks like we will know early on
If the Hawks will win #22. 3 out of first 4 matches directly effect the outcome. One thing no one has mentioned is that Metcalf could score bonus points and really put it away. I can’t wait… 2 and a half hours till the 125
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
so if jbrutus gets L's and Metcalf wins, we're in like Flynn
or do we need a Major or Pin by Metcalf?
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
Scenarios
We have a 9.5 point lead. Teams get 4 points for a championship match win, and bonus points for Major Decisions, Tech Falls, and Pins
OSU wins:
If Metcalf loses:
(OSU would need to make up 9.5 points)
OSU has all three of their finalists to win by normal decision for a 2.5 point win or
OSU wins two of their three matches with one pin for a .5 team win or
OSU wins two of their three matches both my major decision or tech fall for a .5 team win
If Metcalf Wins
(OSU would need to make up 13.5 points)
OSU wins all three championship matches with a pin or 2 major decisions, tech falls or combination of all three
IOWA wins
If Metcalf wins:
by normal decision and at least one of OSU’s finalists loses
by normal decision and all three OSU finalists win but do not score bonus points
by major, tech fall, or pin and all three OSU wrestlers do not score bonus points
If Metcalf loses
and at least 2 of 3 OSU finalists lose
and at least one OSU finalist loses and the other two do not make up 2 bonus points
Sorry if I have made a mistake
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
However
It could be decided before Metcalf steps on the mat if Gomez (MSU) defeats Humphrey at 133 and Jaggers (OSU) defeats Williams (ODU) by normal decision in the 141 match
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I too appreciate all the coverage for all of us who cant follow our hawks or find anything on the major sports sites anywheer. its too bad you have to be named florida, USC or the other overexposed name teams news that the sites bore us with.
thank you very much for keeping us up to date ON ALL OF IT! hawk wrestling. a real dynasty!
Thanks and you're welcome
I’m happy to help out. I’m looking for the info for myself anyway, so it’s not too hard to spread the info – especially when I know that others will certainly appreciate it.
I've got an idea for a BHGP wrestling t-shirt
On a black t-shirt in big bold gold block letters IOWA BRAND WRESTLING and underneath in gold script “We put the LAUGHTER in SLAUGHTER”
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 4:13 PM CDT reply actions
Before the final dash for the title begins...
I just want to show some love to Dan Erekson. If/when we pull out the title win here, it’s going to be close enough that we’ll have needed all the points we got, so it’s a little hard to single out just one guy… but, boy, Erekson was pretty king-sized this weekend.
He’s the only guy on the team to wrestle above his seed, which has been crucial for us with so many other guys finishing below (Dennis, Keddy) or way below their seeds (Falck, T-Shirt). Just think about all the points he’s gotten for us since last night: two wins last night (including one by injury default, so: bonus pts!) and the massive pin over Zabriskie this morning. Those wins – and those bonus pts – were huge for putting us in a position to win the title. If he doesn’t manage to come back late in the 3rd period in his first consolation match last night, our team title hopes are probably sunk.
So, yeah, hooray for Metcalf, who is unquestionably the Most Outstanding Wrestler on the team, and props to Morningstar, who gutted out a lot of points for us this week, but big big congratulations to Dan Erekson, who got us a ton of absolutely vital points this week. Congrats, Big Dan — hopefully you can build off this momentum next year and finish even higher at nationals.
Go Hawks!
and by that I mean go Metcalf and go not buckeyes
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Gay porn scandal mentioned within 10 minutes
That’s going to haunt Donahoe for life.
¿Quieres chiclets?
Was it actually gay porn
I assumed they were talking about porn of some sort
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he posed nude for like a gay dating site or something.
So not really “porn,” per se, but what’s the internet without a little hyperbolic exaggeration…
They were photos for a men's mag
Nebraska sent him packing assuming that because he was paid that he’d broken NCAA rules. Donahoe then donated the money to charity, and has helped Edinboro become the surprise team of this tournament.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, Nebraska probably would have been a pretty strong contender
for the team title if Donahoe was still there.
Yeah, what Ross said.
From the article linked above:
Donahoe and teammate Kenny Jordan were dismissed from the Nebraska wrestling team last Aug. 12 after a campus blog posted pictures of them taken from a website that features photos and videos of naked male athletes for a gay audience. Nebraska, citing NCAA rules that prohibit the use of an athlete’s image for commercial gain, also accused Donahoe of additional violations.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Ouch
Nebraska tattoo on the leg
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, just noticed as well.
That’s gotta be a bit of a downer.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Glad nobody has an Iowa tattoo they regret
Wisconsin, we’re looking at you
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Technical violation
You cannot lock your hands on the mat when riding. You need to have an arm if you do.
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's leave the conversation
to the grown-ups who know wrestling, ok?
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
What is the line?
I have forgotten more wrestling than you know.
Yeah that’s the ticket
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I am picky
but Gomez’s style bugs the hell out of me.
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 6:01 PM CDT reply actions
He's wrestling like Robles, but without the "handicap"
Definitely has to be frustrating for his opposition.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
That was
IMPRESSIVE
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 6:03 PM CDT reply actions
:Looks like Gomez hurt his hand at some point during the tourney
wonder if that’s hurting his ability to grip.
He's carrying his left a little low
that my hurt him in the later rounds
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
ROFL
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Also looks like his arm is hanging a lil bit.
But doesn’t appear to be affecting his power. Great TD.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
WOW
That was pretty
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 6:04 PM CDT reply actions
TD2 Gomez
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 6:07 PM CDT reply actions
Damn that was close
Go Iowa!
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 6:08 PM CDT reply actions
After Jaggers match I am going to be pacing my apartment
and when Metcalf wins all of iowa city will be able to hear me play “In Heaven There Is No Beer”
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 6:11 PM CDT reply actions
Make sure someone is there
incase you need a defibrillator
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 6:12 PM CDT reply actions
Don't worry
not as exciting to me as Tate to Holloway
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah that made me poop a little
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Mar 21, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
It's safe to say I got a bit excited.
Of course I did pretty much the same thing later in the year when Liverpool won the Champions League in a shootout. ’05 was an exciting year in sports for this guy.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I stood in the middle of College Street and screamed until the Alpha Phi girls came out to investigate
It was a great way to start the afternoon.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Jaggers is going for the tech fall first
fall if he gets the opportunity
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 6:15 PM CDT reply actions
OMG
I need a defib
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 6:16 PM CDT reply actions
1.5 with near fall
I think
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 6:18 PM CDT reply actions
Anyone remember whether Jaggers is SO or JR?
I can’t remember… and, damn, he is tough. I hope we don’t have to see him for another few years.
red shirt senior
according to ncaa site
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
OK
TheMat lists him as a SR, too.
That’s good to hear — it will be nice not to have to face him any more.
Especially since we'll have a new wrestler at 41
Who’s the likely candidate?
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Jr
I think
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 6:20 PM CDT reply actions
No
and I prefer Richard.
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Woo
another plus for Iowa. Bring on the Laughter
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 6:23 PM CDT reply actions
For those of you who don't know
Metcalf = Laughter
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Cuz
He puts the laughter in slaughter.
Yes we are over doing it.
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Trying to throw
Desperation?
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
GRR
2 x TD2 Caldwell
E1 Metcalf
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 6:29 PM CDT reply actions
WTF
Metcalf needs to get it going
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 6:34 PM CDT reply actions
He's gonna win
I am gonna say it right now
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
i mean by chasing him and knocking him down
after the match
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Match wasn't over
Cadwell needs to get that shit off the mat. Got play football if you wanna do that shit.
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
The match wasn't over when he was flipping.
Caldwell was showboating. If anyone was to lose points it’d have to be NC State. A Herbert win is what we need. We’ll have to move on.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd like to say that I'm still completely comfortable with idea.
Except seeing what happened to Metcalf simply will not allow it. Pucillo is going to be absolutely pumped. Herbert better come ready.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
caldwell was dancing and doing flips after the match
metcalf chased him and pushed him down
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Cannot believe Iowa will not a single individual champion.
With the year that Iowa had on the mats, it’s just incredible to think they’ve been shut out.
¿Quieres chiclets?
yeah i wonder
how long it’s been or if a team has ever won a NC without an individual champ
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
WTF
Who is losing a point? It better be NC State…..
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Mar 21, 2009 6:46 PM CDT reply actions
we are
that’s what i was worried about
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
What a crock of shit.
So we’re up 4.5. Herbert cannot have a letdown.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
IOWA JUST LOST A POINT
FUCKING BULLSHIT
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Mar 21, 2009 6:48 PM CDT reply actions
That assfuckclown was doing gymnastics with time left on the clock
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Mar 21, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly.
I do not know what that official was watching, he was clearly flipping before the end whistle.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
let them wrestle it again
and see what happens
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I have a feeling we may have a Blades of Glory type brawl on our hands
Metcalf may very well punch Caldwell in the mouth on the medal stands….
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
can't blame him
I want to… and I don’t blame him for what he did after the match either
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
If a boxer starts dancing around like a ballerina with 3 seconds left I fully expect the other guy to knock him the FUCK OUT
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Mar 21, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
so backflips with time on the clock=ok
chasing and touching a guy while he does backflips with time on the clock=lose points
I don’t know wrestling, but that sounds fucked up.
They ball when they can and I'm ballin' by nature
Addicted to the game like Jordan and Peyton
-Lil Wayne "Fireman"
by shake n bake on Mar 21, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
So fucking terrible.
So the fuckwit can do backflips 40 seconds after he was down with back spasms? God, I hope Metcalf gets a rematch next year.
the ESPN announcer were talking about the guys conditioning being an issue
so that makes the injury time shady as fuck.
They ball when they can and I'm ballin' by nature
Addicted to the game like Jordan and Peyton
-Lil Wayne "Fireman"
by shake n bake on Mar 21, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, that's par for the course with "injury time" in wrestling
Especially against Metcalf.
If you care about having a consistent story, though, you may want to make sure your “injury” isn’t back-related before you decide to do some fucking backflips before the match is over.
I hope Caldwell
Is violated by 75,000 AIDS infested orangutans… what a classless douche
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
So Pucillo has to win by 8 points to win them the team title
right? Or a pin, of course
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 6:55 PM CDT reply actions
Thought it was just a win
4 plus 1 for the win
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Just 4 points for a win.
Pucillo needs no less than a major for OSU to win.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Burroughs beat Poeta
3-2 I believe.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, I wasn't paying attention.
Poeta missed a shot and was countered. Burroughs won 5-1.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
the Cornfucker
Burroughs, “The Usain Bolt of Wrestling” the announcers called him
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
They did it earlier today, as well.
He’s so damn excited. It’s great.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
It'd be interesting to find out. I can't find it anywhere.
The Dan Gable coaching tree has to be enormous.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Hard to determine
Would you include all of his coaching? IE Olmpics and all his international coaching??
I guess you could. But even if it is restricted to just college wrestling
I would imagine its still pretty absurd.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I think I'm now 2-4 on my predictions.
But I don’t care if I get the rest of them wrong so long as I get the Herbert one right.
Fuck I'm supposed to be out celebrating already.
This wait is ridiculously frustrating.
¿Quieres chiclets?
I had bought a victory steak
for after the wrestling was over… i just ate it just in case… worried steak is still better than depressed steak… but still not as good as victory steak…
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Win or lose...
I wonder if any Iowa guys will be happy with how they wrestled this week. Maybe Big Dan, since he came up with some pretty clutch wins for us.
But obviously Metcalf is going to be bitterly disappointed, Falck and T-Shirt are going to be absolutely disgusted and heartbroken at having squandered their last chances like this, and I can’t imagine JBo, Keddy, or Dennis will be too thrilled with their performances, either. M-star will probably rue his inability to get a takedown on Howe, but at least he didn’t came through a lot.
Even if they were unhappy.
Brands is going to make sure they’re fucking miserable during the entire trip home.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions
with the fucking monkey?
i hate those commercials more
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
i mean the taco john's monkey commercials
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I haven't seen a Taco John's commercial in years.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Hell, the only reason people here ate at Taco Bell
was because they were selling drugs at the drive-thru window…
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
you mean potato oles?
those are drugs to me
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
No, real drugs.
Taco Bell was shut down on two occasions for selling narcotics (probably meth) at the drive thru window. Only in Muscatine…
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Potato oles are at Taco John's
OLE!
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Herbert almost had him turned
good start
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Minute riding time in the 1st period
I like it.
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Quit stalling
Iowa HS refs hit you with that a lot.
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
He has got to advance
Herbert is stalling a bit.
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
no
in fact they just gave him high performance moment
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Nope. They're letting it die.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Nope
They didn’t say much about it.
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
they said it was unfortunate as he did it
They ball when they can and I'm ballin' by nature
Addicted to the game like Jordan and Peyton
-Lil Wayne "Fireman"
by shake n bake on Mar 21, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Iowa Hawkeyes
National Champions!
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 7:47 PM CDT reply actions
Iowa clinches the national title with Herbert's 6-3 win.
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
8 seconds. Hawkeyes have backed into a national title.
I’m off to go drinking. It’s been fun, guys.
¿Quieres chiclets?
For sho'
White Russians until the sun comes up.
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 21, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Drinking my first beer in a month and a half
if you don’t count st. patty’s weekend
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
just kidding
trying to save some money, and just worried about alcoholism and health problems
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
i respect that. now go for the WHISKEY
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
the whisky thing
is for Lent… sticking to beer (one a week)
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
WWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
GO HAWKSSSS NO PANTS PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 7:48 PM CDT reply actions
22nd National Championship for the Hawks.
Still feels pretty good, even with all the shit yesterday and today.
I agree
Metcalf loss sucks but the celebration made it tainted IMHO.
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
what were they saying when they were showing metcalf and brands?
i was listening to the victory polka
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 7:50 PM CDT reply actions
Just talking about Brands consoling Metcalf after his loss.
They weren’t sure if they knew yet that Herbert had won and that Iowa had clinched the team title.
I have a question
Does USC’s wreslting singlets look like Iowa States too?
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
- Thomas Jefferson
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Mar 21, 2009 7:51 PM CDT reply actions
Ross
thanks for all the work. I appreciate all the data points you put together and post – I’m not a huge follower of wrestling but you’ve made the past few days informative and enjoyable. This novice says thanks.
I did nothing
it was those 2, but you’re welcome
by shada's revenge on Mar 21, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Drank the evening away. Great night to be a Hawkeye.
Feel for Metcalf, but he can do it again next year. There’s no doubt that he’ll be the favorite at 49 again. Caldwell would have earned my respect if it weren’t for that bullshit in the closing seconds. Fuck him. 22 national championships, that’s some quality shit.
¿Quieres chiclets?
Someone at ESPN is good at their job...
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 22, 2009 10:29 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Oh, I figured it would be slightly larger than that....
Caption reads:
Ohio State pulled the ultimate upset Saturday night — the Buckeyes took down Iowa at the NCAA wrestling championships. Miss the action? We’ve got you covered:
¿Quieres chiclets?
by The Mexican't on Mar 22, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
It got shrunk automatically
Those of you wanting to view the fullsize image can simply right-click on it and select “view image,” or alternatively just click here.
Nice work, ESPN. Really, great going.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Adam Jacobi on Mar 22, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Just so we're absolutely clear
Encouraging harassment and posting people’s contact information here, even if it’s publicly available, is absolutely prohibited. If pfac51 or anybody else does it again, it is an automatic ban. BHGP is for dick jokes, not for shit like this.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
sorry i over re-acted.
so that kid can eat a bag of dicks. is that betteR?
but hey, we’re glad the -1 point deduction didn’t cost us a repeat….THREE-PEAT forthcoming !
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
No Caldwell-Metcalf rematch next year, most likely
Caldwell leaning towards redshirting next year
That’s a shame. I really would have liked to see what Metcalf could do in a rematch. On the other hand, his toughest competition at 149 would be out of the picture.
Football also seems like a crazy idea for Caldwell, unless he plans to pack on quite a bit of weight.
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