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We should be getting some times and measurables today. Supposedly Shonn Greene's down to 228, which means he's a 4.49 away from getting a GM's panties wet. Or if he still goes around 4.6... who knows. Leave your thoughts here and we'll be checking in periodically.

Oh, and answer this.

Poll
Who has the most to gain from their NFL Combine performance?
Shonn Greene
74 votes
Mitch King
69 votes
Bradley Fletcher
41 votes
Rob Bruggeman
26 votes
Seth Olsen
11 votes

221 votes | Poll has closed

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That picture amuses.

I can’t get over how aggressively fat he is. I’m left wondering: Who would win in a 40 between Mo and Steven Seagal?

by jebushchrist on Feb 21, 2009 9:26 AM CST reply actions  

If there was a cheeseburger at the finish line:

-Seagal in an embarassing third place.
-Mo in second.
-And LenDale coming out of nowhere FTW

No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer

by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Feb 21, 2009 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

30 bench press reps (225lbs) for Bruggeman

http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers#tp-tab-set-1:tp-grid-container-bench-press

some monster did 39

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Feb 21, 2009 11:12 AM CST reply actions  

working link

http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers#tp-tab-set-1:tp-grid-container-bench-press

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Feb 21, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Monster from Texas Tech...

Isn’t even the strongest kid on that line. Rylan Reed was all over the interwebz after putting up 600 lbs. Sounds like Tech has one hell of a strength program.

¿Quieres chiclets?

by The Mexican't on Feb 21, 2009 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

USC's kicker is a beast

25 reps from a 6’2" 227lb guy, apparently he played fullback and safety in practice in addition to kicking.

25 reps is more than 2 OTs that are going in the 1st round (Micheal Oher and Eugene Monroe).

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Feb 21, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

A quote from Mitch Kings podium time

Iowa DT Mitch King: “I watch more film of myself than my opponents — it’s all about getting better.”
http://twitter.com/PostSports

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Feb 21, 2009 1:54 PM CST reply actions  

andre smith: proof that fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life.

by kleph on Feb 21, 2009 3:43 PM CST reply actions  

they found out whether he was going to work out

when they called his name for the start of the drills and he wasn’t there.

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Feb 21, 2009 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Results

Shonn Greene, weighed in at 227, 19 reps on the bench (on the lower end of RBs)

Bruggeman, didn’t run the 40, 30 reps on the bench (tied him for 10th)

Olsen, 5.24 40, 23 bench reps (on the lower end but not really far back)

King and Fletcher spent the day being measured by scouts, interviewed by team execs, and poked by team doctors.

Greene runs the 40 and the rest of the drills tomorrow.

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Feb 21, 2009 9:43 PM CST reply actions  

This is an excerpt from Mike Maycock, an nfl network draft analyst who is down on georgia tech’s michael johnson:

""If you take that little nose tackle at Iowa, Mitch King, and put his heart in Michael Johnson’s body, you’d have a Hall of Fame player," Mayock said. "I just think Michael Johnson is so talented, but he’s wasting it." So, it would seem that Heart counts after all.

by kinnickcolt on Feb 22, 2009 9:30 AM CST reply actions  

that or he's advocating

some sort of Frankenstein U player to shoot up the draft board

by chitownhawkeye on Feb 22, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

If you could take Bob Sander's heart

and put it into a bigger body, maybe he’d have accomplished something in the NFL by now.

by Nefarious on Feb 22, 2009 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

a lot of broken offensive players

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Feb 22, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Lydon Murtha

Is destroying everyone. I think Murtha is his middle name though. I wonder what a good last name would be.

by storminspank on Feb 22, 2009 10:05 AM CST reply actions  

5th best vertical jump of the RBs by Greene

37inches

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Feb 22, 2009 12:51 PM CST reply actions  

5th best broadjump too

10’1"

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Feb 22, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions  

9th best 3-cone drill among linemen for Olsen

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Feb 22, 2009 1:21 PM CST reply actions  

RB 40s being run right now

http://www.nfl.com/combine/live/app?icampaign=DW_Combine_Sunday

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Feb 22, 2009 1:24 PM CST reply actions  

unoffical 4.65 for Greene's first run

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Feb 22, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

4.66 for Sutton

suck it jNU

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Feb 22, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

4.57 for Wells

4.55 for Knowshon
Shady McCoy didn’t run because he’s sick

Donald Brown the only top 5 back that tore it up so far 4.48 on both runs

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Feb 22, 2009 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

4.63 2nd run

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Feb 22, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Helloooooo 4th round

It sucks, because even with the crappy overall time, he showed off his initially quickness and ability to get to top speed quickly, which is what helps him hit the hole and get up field so quickly.

by NorseHawk on Feb 22, 2009 2:12 PM CST reply actions  

none of the top backs were blazing fast though (unofficially)

none of the top 15 backs here were under 4.48 (Brown and Jennings were the only ones under 4.5)

I don’t think it hurts Greene that much. He is who everyone thought he was. As long as he didn’t Manningham the interviews he’s probably still and second rounder.

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Feb 22, 2009 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

There's a big difference between 4.5 and 4.6

Maybe not in terms of actual production, but in terms of draft position, it’s big. Scout’s already were down of Greene’s speed, and this just confirms that it’s an issue. Combine that with the fact that he can’t contribute in the passing game and I can’t see him going on the first day. There weren’t going to be a ton of RBs taken early anyway. Wells, Moreno, and McCoy will stay ahead of him, and Brown has probably passed him with a good combine. Greene was a borderline 2nd rounder even before the combine, and running worse than a 4.6 isn’t going to help.

by NorseHawk on Feb 22, 2009 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't contribute in the passing game?

Says who? He isn’t proven one way or another in the passing game, yet. Most of the reports that I have read are saying that his hands are a question more than a concern. One even went as far as to say that Greene “appears to have soft hands.”

I still think Greene goes in the second, but may slip towards the back end. He’s still got his pro day in a few weeks, and may very well improve upon his 40 time. If he can take it down to a 4.5 he’ll be just fine.

¿Quieres chiclets?

by The Mexican't on Feb 22, 2009 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

He dropped most of the passes thrown to him this year

I realize that he didn’t get a bunch of opportunities because of how the offense is set up, but he didn’t do much with the ones he got. Until he proves otherwise, I’m assuming that he has bad hands.

by NorseHawk on Feb 22, 2009 5:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Official top RB times

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Feb 22, 2009 2:44 PM CST reply actions  

yeah being the defensive player of the year is pretty much unimpressive..what a moronic comment of bob sanders not accomplishing anything

by kinnickcolt on Feb 22, 2009 2:46 PM CST reply actions  

It's okay

Sarcasm is a pretty advanced concept. We’ll go over it tommorow.

by Nefarious on Feb 22, 2009 7:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Im questioning if norsehawk has even watched shonn greene this year? its not like we were expecting bey numbers from him or even anything under 4.6…thats not shonn greenes game…its when he first gets hit is when he explodes!

yeah I hope he slips slips slips…all the way to the colts!

by kinnickcolt on Feb 22, 2009 2:49 PM CST reply actions  

I don't think Indy would take him

I don’t think they’d touch a back that didn’t have proven hands. We saw with Kenton Keith in 2007 what happens when a back doesn’t have great hands in Indy’s offense.

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Feb 22, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't be an ass

Of course I watched him. I also didn’t say that I don’t like Greene as a prospect. To me, he’s a first day pick and will be a productive pro. I’m saying lots of scouts are going to knock him with that time. He’s been steadily slipping down draft boards since the end of the season, and this can only hurt. No one thought he was going to be a burner, but I think people expected something in the 4.5ish range, especially with the way he slimmed down leading up to the combine. He’s a two down back anyway with his hands, and now I think he’s going to get pigeonholed as a pure short-yardage guy. Those guys don’t get picked early, especially if they’re already 24. Running back is a position where it’s fairly easy to find competent backs in the middle rounds (or even as UDFAs), teams are going to be less inclined to spend a really high pick on a guy unless they think he’s something truly special.

by NorseHawk on Feb 22, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

In non-Greene news

Bradley Fletcher may be shooting up the boards. According to the PostSports twitter feed, “…some believe [Fletcher] was the best CB at the Shrine Game. Talent on the rise.”

¿Quieres chiclets?

by The Mexican't on Feb 22, 2009 3:48 PM CST reply actions  

Knowshon Moreno isn't on the top performers board for 40 times

that means his official time was a 4.6 or slower as a medium to small size back (or NFL.com fucked up, very possible as well).

his unofficial was a 4.55

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Feb 22, 2009 3:54 PM CST reply actions  

BUT....

HE JUMPED OVER A GUY!

So when they test for that, he will no doubt top the charts.

Go Hawks!

by CUNKNNK on Feb 22, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

though apparently he can only jump when it's over guys

he didn’t make the top 10 in vertical or broad jump (Greene tied for 5th in both).

I ain't tryin' do you, I'm just tryin' do me
Last album did two, I'm just tryin' do three.
-Young Jeezy "I Luv It

by shake n bake on Feb 22, 2009 6:13 PM CST up reply actions  

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