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Hey Jealousy: How This Season Created a New Iowa Fan, Who Then Immediately Trumped Me

I am not just a fan and chronicler of Iowa athletics.  No, much like the Apostles or missionaries or Scientologists of yesteryear, I believe it is my solemn duty to convert as many people to the cause as possible.  Fandom is a communal experience, after all, and that community should be as big as possible.

My latest target for conversion was my friend Lauren, a bartender at one of my favorite local establishments.  This was no easy task, mind you: Not only is she not an Iowa alum, but she has never been a fan of any sports franchise and likely wouldn't know a football if it hit her between the numbers.  Despite growing up in St. Louis, she had little interest in baseball and even less in football.

I took a cue from the Jehova's Witnesses who routinely show up at my door1 and started innocuously.  Last winter, I'd ask her to watch basketball games; she looked on in detached bemusement as I suffered, repeatedly asking why she should agree to become a fan of something that brought me so much pain (a valid question, mind you).  I told her about the good times, like that one November night during my salad days in Iowa City, when an upstart group of Hawkeyes knocked off #1 UConn, and I spent the evening running through the ped mall singing "In Heaven There Is No Beer."  It was then that I issued a warning: If you think this is the definition of insanity, just wait until football season.

I saw her after having screamed myself hoarse during the Penn State game, drunk on victory and cheap pitchers of beer.  She shook her head at the triviality of the contest and the ridiculous effect it had.  She was bewildered by the roller coaster of emotions that accompanied the Indiana game ("Why did you keep saying we were going to lose? We are ahead by 11.  Isn't that good?")  She was occasionally watching -- this was a big step forward -- but the season was flying by; something had to happen, and soon.

Star-divide

We took a short road trip in the immediate aftermath of the Wisconsin game -- coincidentally to the Iowa-Wisconsin border -- where I gave a terrorist fist jab to every person in black and gold.  It was here that she finally admitted that she didn't yet understand why that happened, why it was that every person making an outward showing of support for one school's football program was apparently and immediately a longtime friend.  I gave the most honest answer I could: "Being an Iowa fan is simply joining a community of people, united in their irrational love for a school and a place and a group of post-adolescents they have never met, and their equally irrational hatred for people who attended a different school or love a different group of post-adolescents."  This sounds insane, and it is; "fan" is a shortened version of "fanatic," a word that, prior to the moment organized sports took hold in America, was generally reserved for revolutionaries and partisans.  Fanaticism was not to be celebrated; it was to be crushed.  Lauren may well have been slightly concerned by this, but she attempted to conceal it at the time.  And then came Michigan State, and Stanzi hit McNutt on the slant pattern, and the bar where she worked exploded.  Ten minutes after the game, while I was still hugging strangers and reveling in the euphoria, I got a text message: I now had permission to make her a fan.2  Mission nearly accomplished.

I had to finish this conversion -- it had taken on a life of its own by this point -- so I scored a couple of tickets to the Minnesota game, and Lauren suddenly got the entire weekend off, and we went for the full Iowa City experience: bar-hopping through Friday night, 6:00 tailgating wakeup call for Saturday, a brief stop at Carver-Hawkeye.  All systems go.

And then came one of the most excruciating football games I've ever witnessed.  I was openly complaining about the lack of offense.  She was asking questions about the marching band.  My plan was eroding with every successive three-and-out.  I needed a game-changer, and I got it three hours later in a downtown establishment.  Well into my seventeenth vodka tonic of the evening, I caught sight of a familiar face.  Two minutes, one drunken request, and a quick snapshot later, and my task was complete...

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I had a long line of Iowa football jerseys as a kid (even that one with the wings on the shoulders).  I had an Iowa Starter jacket when the Fab Five of Michigan was preferred by every fourth grader in the state.  I had season tickets for 10 years.  I'll be repaying the University for my education until I retire.  And I've never had a picture taken with the starting quarterback.  

It took Lauren one game.  

Yeah, I'm jealous.

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1 -- A friend of mine once had a roommate who was a member of the LDS church.  The roommate would wait for the Jehova's Witnesses to come around, then invite them in to give them a copy of the Book of Mormon.  I'm thinking of doing the same thing with the people who come to my house every Saturday at 11:00.  "Please come in and have a seat.  I'd love to discuss the Book of Leviticus.  If you'll just take a quick look at this literature and watch a quick Tavian Banks highlight video set to AC/DC's 'Thunderstruck,' I'll be right back."

2 -- Yeah, I know.  Bandwaggon.  Better than nothing, though.

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Wow. She is lucky, luckier than Stanzi. You have to marry her now, you know this right?

I applaud your missionary work in the Omaha area. I too have been an Iowa converting machine in a place far from Iowa. Enthusiasm is very contagious. Even Michigan fans can be affected.

Well done, HS.

by Duez I say on Dec 7, 2009 8:03 AM CST reply actions  

Well done sir.

My girlfriend for the past two years failed to understand my obsession with Iowa Football up until this year. When she finally asked “What time is the game on today?”

Euphoria.

by TAMPAHAWK on Dec 7, 2009 8:11 AM CST reply actions  

WALL OF TEXT- - sorry.

I dragged mine out a bit longer, y’know, to feed the hunger. My wife couldn’t give two shits about Iowa football three years ago, and let’s be honest, our first year together (the 2007 season) was NOT a good “recruiting” year. I even took a step backward when, on her birthday, I acted like a baby because Purdue happened to us (complete blowout- – we left to go to the casino with family at halftime, and I had to listen to the shitfest all the way to Tama- – for what it’s worth I calmed immediately after the game was over, but acceptance came at a price that day). I may have taken a second step back when she wanted to get married in the fall and I told her it would have to be during the bye week, and refused to budge on that (I don’t think it won me any points at least).
Last year I started to give her answers to the “why should I care” questions in the back of her mind. I started to give her the backstories and memories of jumping and hugging and high-fiving with family in the living room when Tate hit Holloway (and how it was his first touchdown as a Hawk, but how it couldn’t have been more important), and earlier in life how we beat #2 Michigan to remain #1. I talked a lot about the traditions, and feeling a part of something bigger. She wondered what was wrong with me when, the day after the birth of my son, she was cooing at our new baby and I was scanning the paper to get as much intel as I could on the upcoming Iowa/Iowa St game. [She realized this would be for life a few days later when she awoke due to my jumping in the living room- – she entered, groggy, as I continued jumping with my sleeping three day old baby pressed to my chest, my face contorted in silent scream- – and then we watched the replay of Andy Brodell’s punt return together.] She started to get a sense of what it was all about after I arrived home, drunk, with the biggest smile on my face on a cold day last November, and proceeded to gush (with hoarse voice) about the Penn State game into the wee hours of the morning (until I was sober enough to explain just how big of a deal it was).
This year is when I landed the hook. There has been a monsoon (I’m tired of “perfect storm”) of reasons for her to convert, and I’ve milked them for all they’re worth. The winning and the buzz, what she terms to be a “cute” QB, who turned out to like her favorite young adult vampire fiction, and I took her to a game (granted it was Indiana, but with a finish like that, how could you NOT be a fan). She started asking about game times at the start of the year, just so she knew when I’d be available. Then she started talking about sitting down and watching a game with me, but it didn’t happen (I kept putting her off saying things like, “You don’t like football” or “Wouldn’t you rather go to the spa” {which she actually does some Saturdays} and “Foosball! No son of mine is ever gon play the FOOSBALL!”. I guess she started checking in on games on the radio or t.v. after I started talking about what a special season it could turn out to be (right after Penn State ‘09). She arrived at the bar at the end of Michigan State (7 for 6) and saw the bar erupt inside as McNutt left a funny flavor in the Spartans’ moufs, and just in time to see her drunken husband hug every person on the way out of the bar. She got out of the car and hugged my Buddy (who’s b-day it was) as I took two laps around the establishment while SCREAMING “In heaven there is no beer…” (which we continued scream/singing for at least the next half hour).
So, midway through the Indiana game she didn’t understand why I was having a conniption fit, and saying that we’d lose if we kept playing that way, but that was also the hook. After we won, and I explained how unlikely it is to win having thrown 4 picks in the third, while trailing in points, she wanted to know more. So I started giving her little clinics (at her request) explaining the differences between pro-sets and spread, the positives and negatives of pocket passers vs. scramblers, no huddle, 3-4 vs. 4-3 and other ways of defending depending on likely pass or run, and she’s learned a lot so far. During the jfNW game she texted me “Ricky, NO!” when our leader went down. She consoled me well when we blew overtime against aOSU. The week of the Minny game she kept trying to get me to tell my Buddy that I lost his ticket so she could go instead (I didn’t), and she’s been trying to understand the BCS system ever since (I told her it was better not to kill her brain cells).
I had given her crap for so long because I wanted to make sure she wasn’t just asking about the Hawks to placate me, and because I didn’t want it to feel like it was forced on her, but the week of the Indiana game I heard the magic words. I was giving her crap, saying something like, “It could be cold or rainy, you might just want to stay home” and she turned to me and quietly but earnestly said, “No. I really want to go” then with excitement, “I can’t wait. I bet McNutt catches a touchdown and our defense is going to leave a corpse on the field one of these days.” I was beyond words. She said “our” defense- – hooked. She watched jfNW and Minny on t.v. She missed aOSU (cause she was watching the boy and we don’t have cable- – I went to the bar), but she listened on the radio (Dolph and Eddie probably added a whole new level to her fanhood). She’s already primed for next year, and talking about season tickets for both of us. I love this woman, and I can’t wait!

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Dec 7, 2009 4:00 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Wow...

…I shoulda just done a fan post or something. HS’s story just got me thinking and writing. I got a bit longwinded there. Sorry if you read that and it wasn’t worth your time.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Dec 7, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Dude, no way.

That was awesome. Thanks.

I think I’m still a couple seasons away from that. My wife was raised an Illini fan (she grew up in C-U and went there), but she hates football – mainly due to being subjected to it as a kid by her dad. Anyway, she’s a pretty good sport about it – about me – and she’s intimated that she might want to learn more about this “football” game I love so dearly. I think (and I’m sure you can relate) she sees just how in to it I get, the screaming, the sweating, the jumping, the cat-scaring, the emotional ups & downs, and can’t help but be intrigued. She’s kinda’ the same way about Illini hoops (and, to admit a dirty secret, I’ve sorta become a casual fan of Illini BB myself because of it), and she’s watched her dad & brothers be that way all her life, so I think, she can relate a little. Illinois FB has pretty much sucked a tapir’s asshole her whole life, so I think she’s intrigued by what success might feel like.

Anyway, good story. Your wife sounds pretty fuckin’ rad.

by Bucketochicken on Dec 7, 2009 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

For real...

High five for sharing all of that. Awesome story.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Adam Jacobi on Dec 8, 2009 2:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Translation
I had a long line of Iowa football jerseys as a kid (even that one with the wings on the shoulders). I had an Iowa Starter jacket when the Fab Five of Michigan was preferred by every fourth grader in the state. I had season tickets for 10 years. I’ll be repaying the University for my education until I retire. And I’ve never had a picture taken with the starting quarterback.

It’s amazing what breasts can do…

http://www.rivalryesq.com/
The quintessential Big Ten smoking room.

by Bama Hawkeye on Dec 7, 2009 8:24 AM CST reply actions  

My thoughts exactly

Good thing I decided to read the comments before repeating Bama’s sage words.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 7, 2009 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

So

When am I getting my picture taken with Ricky Stanzi?

"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09

by ReadingRambler on Dec 7, 2009 8:52 AM CST reply actions  

Probably never

But that’s just because I’m assuming you don’t look good with boobs.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 7, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

No, I kept my identity hidden behind a Clark Kent-like facade.

Plus, it was an ’86 Rose Bowl day, not a Manzi day. The HS secret remains.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Hawkeye State on Dec 7, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

I have done the same thing...

I converted my friend who was a cyclone fan into a Hawkeye fan. I guess a few years ago he just couldn’t handle how terrible ISU was and switched sides. I’m pretty sure he doesn’t miss a Hawkeye game! Now I’m down in Florida trying to spread the love haha

by Guns Dont Kill People...I Kill People on Dec 7, 2009 9:24 AM CST reply actions  

I sincerely hope your name is a shout out to MC Vagina.

by cutlassbob on Dec 7, 2009 7:29 PM CST up reply actions  

That picture is great

I especially enjoy the chap behind Stanzi’s shoulder.

"Andrew Jones....SEND IT IN, BIG FELLA!" - Bill Raftery, 4/2/09

by ReadingRambler on Dec 7, 2009 10:03 AM CST reply actions  

That could be...

The Stoneman; master of all things fire. He who survives waking up in the morning with a burnt sleeping bag and flannel shirt and when upon being notified does not move away from the fire but goes back to sleep near the fire.

by donny on Dec 7, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Nah, not enough hair

Also, that shirt has a collar. Stoney would never stand for that shit.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Hawkeye State on Dec 7, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

No, man

I know he would never stand for that, but I think its him. He’s a married man now. He’s gotta sport the short hair and I think said collar is a hood. Anyway, I’ll get some second opinions.

by donny on Dec 7, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm with donny

I think that is the mythical Stoneman. I think those are the glasses of the person who tried to burn my apt to the ground after a Superbowl party. the caterer knows…

by somerandom on Dec 7, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

I thought it looked like him

as soon as I saw the pic. Glad I’m not the only one.

by TEXaco on Dec 7, 2009 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Apparently I'm missing something

Who, or what, is this Stoneman of which you speak?

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 7, 2009 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

You've stumbled into an "inside baseball" conversation

I know these guys (I think, though I’m not sure who the SFA fan is) from back in the day. Stoneman was once roommates with both donny and somerandom. He once took out 4 guys on Bowery St. with a storm drain. He’s basically Bill Braskey.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Hawkeye State on Dec 7, 2009 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

My wife is friends with Stoney's wife.

They crashed at our place the weekend of the Minnesota game, and graciously invited us to tailgate right next to Kinnick. I don’t think I got a chance to meet you HS, but Stoney told me who you were when I commented on your shirt.

by TEXaco on Dec 7, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

It's not stoneman

Check out the facebook photos. Stoney was rocking the red vest, and had no hood on the sweatshirt. The guy in the back was in Stanzi’s posse.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Hawkeye State on Dec 7, 2009 11:43 AM CST up reply actions  

you are correct

My second opinion confirmed it via facebook too. But damn, that sure does look like him! Well, I guess I gotta go back to trusting lawyers. Believe me, there are only two people who are to be trusted in any realm 1. caterers and 2. politicians.

My eyes kind of get misty this time of year from remembering them old bowls of yesteryear: Getting banned from an RV bathroom, witnessing a near death diabetic emergency, seeing a buddy clear out a whole row of fans in front of us by puking behind their seats, drunk girl playing pocket pool with a buddy during the game, threatening to throw a restaurant table into the river (of the famed riverwalk ) because the service was terrible, almost dying in car accident in Oklahoma on way back, seeing a real American Indian, crashing a mobster family party and hitting on Italian girls (right off the boat) then a cook intercepting “family” men that were following me into the bathroom, then friends noticing this and getting me the hell out of there, New Year’s eve party on southbeach that involved buddy licking a prostitutes nipple, waking up sitting up on the couch with half drank beer still nestled between my legs, buddy on other couch waking up same way but couldn’t remember why he was wet (rained on us walking back from a gentlmen’s club), walking along the on/off ramp along the interstate to get to and fro said club, almost freaking out because I got my leg lodged in the seat at the game, smuggled in flasks, at halftime walking around stadium to get better view of Shaggy halftime show but when we finally got to area it was too late the show was over, no recollection of the second half, mysterious adult film appearing on the hotel bill then convincing hotel to take it off bill, running over a dead dear in middle of the interstate in a Ford Taurus somewhere in Georgia or Tennessee, and probably other adventures I can’t remember.

by donny on Dec 7, 2009 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow

You sound almost as epic as this Stoney character.

Your Miami trip sounds eerily similar to my trip to several of Tampa’s famed clubs along Dale Mabry last year.

They took the bar, the whole fucking bar!

by recoveringfratguy on Dec 7, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

So you're saying you've been to Mons Venus, then?

Can’t say I blame you. An intrinsic part of any trip to Tampa.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 7, 2009 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh Yeah

And a few of the other places along that stretch. They were just too convienent when we were staying on the same road.

They took the bar, the whole fucking bar!

by recoveringfratguy on Dec 7, 2009 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

man

i wish my fiance would understand my ridiculous obsession with Iowa football.

"ANOTHER Iowa running back down!"-any sports caster

by HAWKEYESBABY on Dec 7, 2009 11:46 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah

But my wife plays along nicely, even if she doesn’t really care. The pictures of us tailgating, drunk, wearing bumblebee bibs are some of my favorites

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Dec 7, 2009 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

HS...

You start a column titled “Hey Jealousy” and don’t bring up the Oops’ favorite band of all-time, the Gin Blossoms? Something just aint right. Here, fine, I’ll do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxQhx4t1FmE

I mean, really who doesn’t just LOVE the Gin Blossoms?

by Buddy Light on Dec 7, 2009 12:01 PM CST reply actions  

I saw them live once in college!

They were as awful as you might imagine (sorry, OPS).

by Bucketochicken on Dec 7, 2009 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I saw them as well.

They play a concert at Luther.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Dec 7, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, probably the same week - I saw 'em at Loras.

199…6, maybe? It was awful. Glad I was drunk and wearing a Pantera shirt to prove… um, you know, that I’m cool and stuff.

by Bucketochicken on Dec 7, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, that sounds about right.

My cousin’s friend won tickets to it and they talked me into going with them since no one else would. Plus neither of them could drive, damn OWI’s.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Dec 7, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Luther gets all the big names, bitches

One of the highlights of my four years there (that I can actually remember) had to have been singing along to “Bitches Ain’t Shit” at a Ben Folds concert in the CFL. I’m sure that’s exactly how the people who built the place intended for it to be used.

by NorseHawk on Dec 7, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Dave Matthews Live at Luther College

Waited in line at 6 am to get seats 4 hours before the box office opened. Got the best seats for all my friends – first row of the padded seats so we could put our feet up on the railing.

His rider included like 4 bottles of Jack Daniels. I’m petty sure he and Tim Reynolds consumed the 4 bottles themselves before the show.

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Dec 7, 2009 8:12 PM CST up reply actions  

some legit concerts in the CFL and regents

Guster was dope, but my highlight would be Jurassic 5. Long story short, Charli da Tuna got hooked up by my boy on the 20th of april. best night ever

Gotta get up to get down

by Gustav on Dec 7, 2009 9:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Wasn't around for Jurrasic Five, that would have been awesome

Guster and the Format were there my sophomore year though, that was a great show. Not quite at the level of Ben Folds, but still pretty good.

by NorseHawk on Dec 7, 2009 10:44 PM CST up reply actions  

did you catch jack johnson opening up for ben harper and the innocent criminals?? that shit was legit as well

Gotta get up to get down

by Gustav on Dec 7, 2009 10:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Not at Luther

Also before my time. I saw what I think was that exact same tour when it was in Ames though. It was a good time, although I hate Jack Johnson now. Ben Harper remains awesome though.

by NorseHawk on Dec 7, 2009 11:06 PM CST up reply actions  

That concert made me both jealous and glad.

Jealous because I was the Concert/Music chair of the Activities Board at Loras while I was there (FUCKINGNERD!), and it would’ve ruled to have booked such a huge act that ended up recording the goddamn thing live. And glad because I fucking hate Dave Matthews and his shitty, shitty, shitty-ass khaki white hat fratboy rock. But then, I like metal and jazz and other nerderific nerdery music, so what do I know?

I did smoke a j with the drummer for Collective Soul*, so I guess there’s that…
 
 
 
*they sucked

by Bucketochicken on Dec 7, 2009 9:50 PM CST up reply actions  

That was before Dave got really shitty though

Their fans are admittedly annoying as hell, but that’s not their fault. I still think their first couple albums are pretty legit.

by NorseHawk on Dec 7, 2009 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think anyone should apologize for ripping on DMB.

Especially after ABC sullied our CFB coverage with them.

by RossWB on Dec 7, 2009 11:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed. He's a complete shitsack.

The sort-of apology was for qualifying all of his fans as shitty-ass khaki white hat fratboys.

by Bucketochicken on Dec 7, 2009 11:13 PM CST up reply actions  

It fell in the toilet at one of his concerts huh?

j/k. It was wide open.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Dec 8, 2009 8:35 AM CST up reply actions  

When I was at Luther...

…..which was a long time ago, we had some pretty good bands, but I will refuse to name them for fear of looking too old to post words like fuck, dickhead, ass-hat, and epic-fail.

I will say this: I had the pleasure of being at the first rock concert re-allowed into the CFL after a many year break after the PTB found weed-paraphernalia on stage after a rock show shortly after it was built.

I cannot stand the DMB myself, but I do reference it to people when I want to make Luther sound ‘cool,’ which is otherwise pretty damn hard to do.

Oh—I like Collective Soul. Maybe they’re not a great live band, but they have a lot of good tunes.

If it's not too much trouble, search your soul--and then ask yourself if maybe I might have a point.

by The Director on Dec 8, 2009 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope you die.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Adam Jacobi on Dec 7, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, your problem were high expectations

If you don’t expect to much of meHawkeye State, you might not be let down.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 7, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

so dude. Hawkeye state

are you married? cuz if not you should totally hook it up with this chick. I’m only 17 but that seems pretty much in the bag.

Fresh since 1822

by kmacsm on Dec 7, 2009 3:09 PM CST reply actions  

Holy Shit!

I swear to god if she went to Iowa Western in 03-04 I dated that chick for like two weeks….

by MP hawkfan on Dec 8, 2009 12:12 PM CST reply actions  

Nope, she didn't go to Iowa Western

On the other hand, I took a few classes there in 1998. So you could have dated me.

(Seriously, 89.7 was maybe the greatest radio station of all time. It’s gone now, isn’t it?)

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Hawkeye State on Dec 8, 2009 8:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, it's technically still there

But a far cry from the 89.7 we listened to in high school

by MP hawkfan on Dec 9, 2009 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

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