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Big Ten Expansion Warning System Returns to DEFCON 3; Come Out of Your Fallout Shelters

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When Teddy Greenstein breathlessly reported yesterday on an impending statement by the Big Ten conference on expansion possibilities moving to the "front burner," there was a certain IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW quality to it.  After all, how long could it take to vet a list of expansion candidates that every Big Ten blogger generated two years ago?

Turns out, longer than we thought (emphasis on the important stuff added):

Park Ridge, Ill. – The Big Ten Council of Presidents/Chancellors (COP/C) discussed the future of the Big Ten Conference at its winter meetings on Dec. 6 in Park Ridge, Illinois. The following statement is issued by the Big Ten office on behalf of the COP/C.

Penn State joined the Big Ten Conference in June of 1990 and its addition has been an unqualified success. In 1993, 1998 and 2003 the COP/C, in coordination with the commissioner’s office, reviewed the issue of conference structure and expansion. The COP/C believes that the timing is right for the conference to once again conduct a thorough evaluation of options for conference structure and expansion. As a result, the commissioner was asked to provide recommendations for consideration by the COP/C over the next 12 to 18 months.

The COP/C understands that speculation about the conference is ongoing. The COP/C has asked the conference office to obtain, to the extent possible, information necessary to construct preliminary options and recommendations without engaging in formal discussions with leadership of other institutions. If and when such discussions become necessary the COP/C has instructed Commissioner James E. Delany to inform the Chair of the COP/C, Michigan State University President Lou Anna K. Simon, and then to notify the commissioner of the affected conference(s). Only after these notices have occurred will the Big Ten engage in formal expansion discussions with other institutions. This process will allow the Big Ten to evaluate options, while respecting peer conferences and their member institutions. No action by the COP/C is expected in the near term. No interim statements will be made by the Big Ten or the COP/C until after the COP/C receives the commissioner’s recommendations and the COP/C determines next steps, if any, in this area.

It appears expansion is imminent, to be sure, but not in the coming weeks or months, and likely not before the 2013 season.  This cautious approach is rare.  The SEC took less than four months to add Arkansas and South Carolina in 1990, the Big 12 was formed in a matter of weeks, and the ACC waited a whole three days to begin discussions with Syracuse, Miami, VT, and BC in 2003.  By contrast, it appears the Big Ten won't even begin discussing potential candidates until 2011.  The cautious approach is also wise, especially given the problems that the ACC has had since its hasty expansion six years ago.  We'll have plenty of time for all of this speculation; the Big Hidden Eleven will remain so for the near future.

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After reading all the pros and cons of all these schools, I am now convinced the Big Ten should invite

Princeton (good academics, already plays football) or New York University (NY media market and very, very old football & basketball history that will need some attention). We’ll figure out the details over the next 10 years.

Honorable mention: University of Indiana, Bloomington – big school with all kinds of sports potential

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 16, 2009 11:56 AM CST reply actions  

Well, if that's the case...

…are 2013 schedules made yet? We could do a trial of a round robin (drop a couple non-cons) while they talk about whether to expand or not- – y’know, to see how it all works out and if people like it that way before adding a school.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Dec 16, 2009 11:57 AM CST reply actions  

No full schedule yet

but Iowa already has two non-con games set (ISU and UConn). It’s the drawback of a 10-game round robin (beyond the fact that it doesn’t generate enough ticket revenue): Teams that schedule an annual OOC rival (like Iowa-ISU or Purdue/UM-ND) only have one other spot. That seems insufficient. Even KF, who has advocated a round robin for a couple of years now, admits it would require a 13th game.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Dec 16, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I would be fine with that

I would love a schedule of Chump, BCS conference team (UConn, Pitt, Ariz), ISU, Big Ten round robin. Throw in a bye week after the first five big ten games finish the first weekend in december. Eliminates the 2002 problem and keeps us unique from other conferences (but similar to the Pac 10).

Only problem with 13 is that I doubt an 8 team playoff to end a season would be tacked on to that. So we would have to cut back to 12 games again.

Who knows, the money involved clusterfucks everything, and will keep us from the best system possible.

Its a funny story actually.

by Wad on Dec 16, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Wha?

If we play full round-robin, why do we need a playoff? Wouldn’t the record already determine the champ?

The more you find out about the world, the more opportunities there are to laugh at it. Bill Nye (yeah, the science guy)

by tiggerhawk on Dec 16, 2009 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

He's saying for the national championship

Not for the conference.

Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.

by Patrick Vint on Dec 16, 2009 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

correct

I don’t like the championship game that the big 12 and sec have every year, thus my wanting of a round robin in conference.

Its a funny story actually.

by Wad on Dec 16, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for clarifying.

The more you find out about the world, the more opportunities there are to laugh at it. Bill Nye (yeah, the science guy)

by tiggerhawk on Dec 17, 2009 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

As a beaten, down on his luck clown?

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Dec 16, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

?

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Dec 16, 2009 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

When I first heard ABC was going to do a comedy called "Better Off Ted"

A small part of me was hoping it was a spin-off based on this guy. I LOL every time he’s on screen.

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by MissouriHawk on Dec 16, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly J.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Dec 16, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Question is, how much fun would Mrs. Delany be at parties?

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Dec 16, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

She WAS lots of fun

See picture below.

"Wow. You know you have problems when even the cheerleaders know you suck." ~ Pain in the Sash

by Leftcoast Hawk on Dec 16, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

RIP

Guess he’s now free to pursue the gooch.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Dec 16, 2009 3:30 PM CST up reply actions  

At least the gooch loves him for who he is and not what he does.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Dec 16, 2009 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll bet this would get him more attention at a party

"Wow. You know you have problems when even the cheerleaders know you suck." ~ Pain in the Sash

by Leftcoast Hawk on Dec 16, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

dude, what the fuck.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Adam Jacobi on Dec 16, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Rutgers

It’s going to be Rutgers for sure. Fits the academic profile, just upgraded its football facilities, and is 30 minutes from Manhattan. Getting the Big Ten Network on NYC basic cable would generate big $ and there are thousands of BXI alumni in the city. Giving them a chance to see their team play live every other year just outside of the city – huge. Trust me, this will absolutely be Rutgers’ spot to lose.

by RodgersHasAHose on Dec 16, 2009 2:17 PM CST reply actions  

nfw. Stadium is too small and fanbase too shitty.

by txhawkeye on Dec 16, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

and faculty is a pain in the arse

the whole academic side of Rutgers suggest to me they will drop football before they try to join a league of super powers. I’m tired of waiting for Rutgers to grow up and I think the big east is too. Oh, and their atheltic department revenues are worse than bad. They would be better served in Conference USA.

I have to disagree with you…Rutgers is not ready for prime time. Not even close.

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 16, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Doubt it

Don’t let one night of Red Empire State building fool you, NYC is pro sports town and Rutgers doesn’t even fill its own stadium. People in NY who are CFB fans are either ND or PSU fans. Rutgers has sucked ass for a billion years. Their ten new fans reek of new money anyway.

"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"

by psuphiman80 on Dec 16, 2009 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I was trying to find an Evil Clown Picture

Perhaps that was a bit over the top. Certainly not as warm and fuzzy as a peeing unicorn. My bad :p

"Wow. You know you have problems when even the cheerleaders know you suck." ~ Pain in the Sash

by Leftcoast Hawk on Dec 16, 2009 5:02 PM CST reply actions  

ewwww

that rainbow piss is fuzzy, too?

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Dec 17, 2009 9:03 AM CST up reply actions  

It tickles on the way out

And don’t tell me you don’t want ticklish urine.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Adam Jacobi on Dec 17, 2009 7:37 PM CST up reply actions  

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