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Is Ken O'Keefe the problem, or the solution?

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Is Ken O'Keefe the problem, or the solution?

It's baaaack.

Iowa football blogs are abuzz with frustration and fury over Iowa's loss yesterday. The subtext and not so subtextual criticism is slowly centering around Ken O'Keefe's naked bootleg call that ended with Ricky Stanzi crumpled on the ground with a potential season ending ankle sprain and a momentum changing seven points for Northwestern. As one might expect, Kirk Ferentz is not joining in on the second-guessing of the call. In his post-game comments he targeted his frustration with the players, "Obviously, we didn't get a good enough block, delay on their defensive end. He made the play," he said. "It's a good play on their part, bad play on ours." Covering for Ken O'Keefe? Maybe. But anyone who follows the Hawkeyes knows that this Iowa coaching staff is devout believers in execution over and above scheme. "Let the players decide it" has been the mantra at Iowa in the Kirk Ferentz era.

Of course frustration over O'Keefe is not new. Despite great success last year he has been the excuse in the green room, a loss away from being called on to the set. It did not take very long yesterday after the game for comments to spiral from "what a bad play call" to "what a bad play caller."

So perhaps it is time to examine how Iowa's Ken O'Keefe coached offense has stacked up this decade in terms of the two key areas by which one might measure success: total offense and scoring offense. From a statistical point of view it is not good this season. You all know that. But is there a trend emerging that may fall on O'Keefe?

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A quick look at Iowa's ranking in the conference this decade in total  shows the following:

Year                Category                    Conference Rank    Win/loss Record

2009               Total Offense                        9                                  9-1

                        Scoring Offense                   9

2008               Total Offense                        5                                  9-4

                        Scoring Offense                   2

2007               Total Offense                        11                               6-6

                        Scoring Offense                   11

2006               Total Offense                        3                                  6-7

                        Scoring Offense                   7

2005               Total Offense                        4                                  7-5

                        Scoring Offense                   7

2004               Total Offense                        10                               10-2

                        Scoring Offense                   6

2003               Total Offense                        8                                  10-3

                        Scoring Offense                   3

2002               Total Offense                        3                                  11-2

                        Scoring Offense                   1

2001               Total Offense                        6                                  7-5

                        Scoring Offense                   1

2000               Total Offense                        11                               3-9

                        Scoring Offense                   11

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Average         Total Offense                        7.0                  7.8 wins and 4.4 losses

                        Scoring Offense                   5.8

What happens when we look at Iowa's defensive performance in these same two statistical categories?

Year                Category                    Conference Rank    Win/loss Record

2009               Total Defense                      3                                  9-1

                        Scoring Defense                 3

2008               Total Defense                      2                                  9-4

                        Scoring Defense                 1

2007               Total Defense                      5                                  6-6

                        Scoring Defense                 3

2006               Total Defense                      6                                  6-7

                        Scoring Defense                 5

2005               Total Defense                      4                                  7-5

                        Scoring Defense                 3

2004               Total Defense                      3                                  10-2

                        Scoring Defense                 4

2003               Total Defense                      4                                  10-3

                        Scoring Defense                 1

2002               Total Defense                      5                                  11-2

                        Scoring Defense                 3

2001               Total Defense                      2                                  7-5

                        Scoring Defense                 4

2000               Total Defense                      10                               3-9

                        Scoring Defense                 9

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Average         Total Defense                      4.5                  7.8 wins and 4.4 losses

                        Scoring Defense                 3.6

Sure, it's not a very detailed statistical analysis. I'm too lazy and tired to dig deeper than the above. But, it is nevertheless revealing to see these numbers in black & white.

While it does not come as much of a surprise that Iowa's defense is usually ranked better, and sometimes significantly better than the offense in terms of statistical performance, it is surprising to see how poorly the offensive rankings have become. In the Ferentz era scoring defense has consistently been the foundation of Iowa's success, along with excellent offensive line play.

But how much can any team ask of its defense? This season has been a case study in just that question.

The last two games has seen Iowa turn the ball over 10 times to their opponents' 4 and perhaps this has finally unmasked Iowa's blueprint as too simplistic. Also, Ferentz's football teams have relied on refinement over time. Refinement is code for "coaching up" players as the season progresses. November is usually the reveal for Ferentz's teams, the time when silly mistakes evaporate and experience and commitment to execution take over. But not this year.

So this brings us back to Ken O'Keefe. His offenses have undoubtedly had some success. Iowa's scoring offense has been in the Top Three in the conference in 4 of the past 10 years, and led the conference twice. But with the exception of last year, the last 5 years has seen Iowa in the lower half of the conference in scoring and dead last in 2007. These numbers might be an indictment on the talent that Iowa has recruited to the offense. Or it might be something else.

Ferentz likes Ken O'Keefe's offensive philosophy. It fits his blueprint. And he is probably right, but perhaps we need to reassess Ken O'Keefe's coaching and play calling. Maybe it is time for us to reassess Ken O'Keefe's place on this Iowa staff.

Of course, there is never a better time to point fingers than right after a loss, so let it rip.

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Over the last couple of weeks

I’ve kept expecting the offense to “show up”. I’ve been expecting the big break out that can occur once execution continues to improve. That being said, I think all the injuries short circuited it, preventing the offense from gelling. That and Stanziballs.
Considering that we’re running a true freshman, I would have expected us to go bombs away primarily weeks ago, but part of me thinks that they won’t or can’t let Stanzi disregard the running game because he’s just as likely to throw to the other team as us.

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Nov 8, 2009 9:56 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

What about the disapearing act of Tony Moeaki?

I didn’t mention that above but I am wondering about that. How do we account for that?

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 8, 2009 10:06 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That has been a source of frustration for sure.

I wonder how much of it is other teams gameplanning for him and how much is problems with our offense – either QBs not looking for him or Moeaki not managing to get open. Given how much Stanzi was looking for him earlier in the year, it seems odd that TonyMo would be forgotten by him now.

by RossWB on Nov 8, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Sadly

I thought that the offense was finally showing up yesterday.

And then the injury, and then all to hell.

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by Bama Hawkeye on Nov 8, 2009 10:27 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Plus one.

I really thought that yesterday the Hawks would have a “O” day. I don’t fault KOK for the play that Stanzi got injured on, but when it was obvious JV was out of his element try something different, try Wienke, try a Pistol, or option or punt on first down and hope the defense scores. Not Kirk’s style though, live by the sword, die by the sword.

by Stay thirsty, my friends. on Nov 8, 2009 10:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's the talent

How many players have been drafted to the NFL from Iowa’s offense in the last 5 years? Since the 2005 draft we have… Greene (3rd), Olsen (4th) , Meyers (7th), Chandler (4th), Yanda (3rd) , Elgin(7th)… Any others?

That isn’t exactly elite talent.

Also, we haven’t had a receiver make an NFL roster since CJ Jones. We haven’t had a QB make an NFL roster since Mark Vlassic.

Compare that with the defense -

Roth (2nd) Babs (2nd) Considine (4th) D-Rob (7th), Greenway (1st), Hodge (3rd), Humpal (6th), Iwebema (4th), Godfrey (2nd), Fletcher (3rd).

I might be missing a player or two.

by StevenDS on Nov 8, 2009 10:14 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget D. Clark

Maybe one of our best NFL’ers ever. Wasn’t he a freaking walk on?

by HawkeyePapyrus on Nov 9, 2009 8:00 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Bob

Motherfuckin’ Sanders!!!

by TEXaco on Nov 9, 2009 9:30 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It makes me sad

That he can’t stay healthy now.

Its a funny story actually.

by Wad on Nov 9, 2009 9:38 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

and then some. Indy might have to consider releasing him.

by txhawkeye on Nov 9, 2009 2:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm.
The last two games has seen Iowa turn the ball over 10 times to their opponents’ 4 and perhaps this has finally unmasked Iowa’s blueprint as too simplistic.

Is there a blueprint that tells you how to win games with a -3 turnover margin? Managing to do it once was impressive, but expecting to do it twice is asking a bit much.

The KOK offense works very well when we have a strong running game; the only year in which we had a strong running game but didn’t finish in the top 3 of scoring offenses was 2005 (which was a strange year for Iowa and also a high-scoring year for Big Ten offenses — Iowa’s PPG that year would have ranked in the top 3 in two of the last four years and would barely miss out on that distinction this year). The main problem seems to be when we don’t have a strong running game and we’re forced to resort to “plan B” on offense. Then the scoring dips and our margin for error really sinks .

That said, it’s also difficult to overlook the importance of continuity to offense in general. The offensive line has been a revolving door for most of the season, we’re practically down to 2004 levels on the depth chart at running back (although thank goodness Brandon Wegher is more talented than Sam Brownlee), and all of our top receiving options have missed time at some point during the season. And now we’re minus the most experienced quarterback we’ve had since 2006. Compare that to last year; were there any substantial injuries aside from Tony Moeaki’s usual absence for a few games and Seth Olsen missing a couple games?

by RossWB on Nov 8, 2009 10:17 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

To expand on that latter point...

Unless you have a great offensive mind like Mike Leach or Brian Kelly, it seems like it’s been pretty hard for anyone to just plug in new faces to an offense and expect things to run smoothly. I’ve been really impressed with the way Kelly has just plugged in a replacement for Tony Pike the last 3-4 games with pretty much no ill effects, but he’s clearly a far greater offensive mind than KOK. Ditto Leach at Texas Tech, who can apparently just sub in any old QB and keep things moving pretty well.

Oklahoma’s offense has been pretty dreadful without Bradford this year and USC has had ups and downs with Barkley and Corp — and those teams have loads more talent than Iowa.

by RossWB on Nov 8, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Another view

While I am not a fan of KOK and I have cussed him with all my might on more than one occasion I think to lay the last two games completely at his feet is unfair. He did come up with the 28 point 4th quarter and we had people open just didn’t get them the ball. Would I like to see a more wide open offense yes, does that fit what Iowa does, I really don’t know. I don’t believe it is going to change so we might as well learn to live with it. By the way he called 9 games right so far this year. I know I know 13 was what we all wanted.

by nwyms Trebek! on Nov 8, 2009 10:21 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Generally speaking

I am not a huge KOK fan, but I really don’t think the numbers tell any of the story. First of all, it is probable that most teams with the more “high-octane” offenses run up the score (and the stats) egregiously.
Secondly, and more importantly, Iowa, like any team, runs a complete game plan (overseen and OKed entirely by Ferentz). That game plan means a conservative offense that doesn’t take excessive chances and doesn’t put it’s D in bad situations, special teams that don’t make mistakes and a defense that destroys other teams and forces them to make mistakes.
Am I saying that KOK/Ferentz wouldn’t want to get 40 points by halftime every game and bring in the backups in the 2nd half? No, but I’m saying they measure the risk. The nature of the game Ferentz and his chosen assistants play is not prone to gaudy offensive statistics short of a year when they have a glut of offensive talent ala ‘02 and at Iowa, that’s not going to happen very often. In short (too late) KOK does pretty much exactly what Kirk Ferentz wants him to do.

by alnamiasIV on Nov 8, 2009 10:23 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

To say that our offense is conservative...

is garbage. This BXI season, we haven’t had one drive that 1) ate up big chunks of clock, 2) was better than 60/40 run to pass, 3) ended in a touchdown. I need to see those types of drives to be convinced that we aren’t just a big play team. Our comebacks this season have come due to big plays (Stanzi to McNutt 92 yd, Stanzi to DJK 66 yd, Tyler MFing Sash 90 yd OHMYGODWTFJUSTHAPPENED?!?!, deep post routes against man-to-man coverages), even our winning drive @MSU didn’t convince me that we could put a solid drive together.

I’m not saying that we’ve been lucky, and that KOK isn’t a football genius, but our O has only come together when it absolutely mattered most, lead by a QB who seems to have the Montana/Elway ability to lead a come-from-behind team… We can’t just be a fourth quarter football team and expect to beat OSU (which I expect that we will against all odds).

This weekend, KOK needs to get JV started early by throwing short to TEs or RBs in the flat… They might get pummelled, but JV has got to have confidence and there is no better way to do that then to be 5 for 5 to start the game. After all, this will be his biggest challange since leading Keokuk to the ’Dome back in high school.

KOK, you might be a genius...

by hawkeye_heartattack on Nov 9, 2009 7:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Besides

Consider who leads the Big Ten in scoring this year? Hint- they lost to Purdue yesterday and Illinois last week. And Dick-Rod isn’t one to measure risk-reward the way Kirk does.

by alnamiasIV on Nov 8, 2009 10:30 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I've been thinking

About this all year. I have an unresearched theory. KOK is conservative. No I mean really conservative. Glen Beck conservative. KOK knows we’ve got a great D so early in games the play calling is typical KOK. Later, when the clock is ticking and we’re down 10 points he has no choice but to open the offense up. We throw and we score. That is why we gave so many close games with teams that we should beat. We do not play to our strength this year, which is throwing the football (despite the stanziballs our receivers are better weapons than our rbs).The only difference yesterday is that we have an inexperienced QB at the helm that could not hit an open receiver, held the ball too long, and generally looked like he was playing with a brown load in his gold pants. I would like to see what our offensive playcalling (rush v pass) looks like from half to half and also yard per rush play v yards per pass play.

And you can take that to the bank.

by Hawkeye X on Nov 8, 2009 10:49 AM CST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

I thought we might see some defense of KOK

or at least I hoped we would. But here are some issues I have been concerned with:

- Tony Moeaki is the best tight end Kirk Ferentz says he has ever coached, he has been totally absent the last few games. I want to think that if I were an O-coordinator I would work my ass off to get the ball to my best players.
- R. Stanzi interception rate. I believe R. Stanzi is coachable. Where is the coaching there? Is Stanzi Drew Tate with the fuck you attitude, we’re doing this my way? I doubt it. Play calling and coaching are bed fellows. I smell a rift there.
- Wrinkles. I have them at my temples and love them on the football field. We have a VERY experienced quarterback. Why have we not seen more wrinkles like the zone read play at Penn State? I understand conservative but sheesh.

In short, I think KOK is good for what he does, the philosophy he works within, and the coach he works for. Although, I think Iowa did something this year that was interesting. They have become progessively more predictable and conservative. It worked. So why change that up. I understand that. But it flys in the face of what we have seen in past years.

As for the talent issue. If ever there was a year or two to capitalize on our good fortune, it is now. We have received a ton of press and I am hopeful we can get a game breaker type player this year or next. A Tim Dwight type or Ronnie Harmon. Just one.

At the end of the day, I am think I am fine with KOK.

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 8, 2009 11:06 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Various and sundry
- R. Stanzi interception rate. I believe R. Stanzi is coachable. Where is the coaching there? Is Stanzi Drew Tate with the fuck you attitude, we’re doing this my way? I doubt it. Play calling and coaching are bed fellows. I smell a rift there.

The nature of the interceptions has been changing. Earlier in the season, a lot of them seemed to be him making bad reads and forcing the ball on out routes; lately they’ve been bad throws on deep balls. What that means… I don’t know, really. At least he’s not making the same mistakes?

In short, I think KOK is good for what he does, the philosophy he works within, and the coach he works for.

His offense works really well when we have reasonably good talent, continuity among personnel, and can run the ball well. When any one of those things breaks down, it struggles and he’s so-so at best at coming up with a plan B.

Although, I think Iowa did something this year that was interesting. They have become progessively more predictable and conservative. It worked. So why change that up. I understand that. But it flys in the face of what we have seen in past years.

That has been a bit frustrating, although we’ve still seen a few different things at times. Even yesterday they looked like they were trying to do something with the reverse a few times. It is a shame that the 5WR look has been scuttled with the injuries to Chaney and Sandeman.

by RossWB on Nov 8, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

All excellent points

It is hard to decipher how much of this offense is personnel issues (injuries, dog house, inexperience, etc.), coaching issues, and scheming. We all know it is bits of all. But to get better and solve the problems one needs to know where to start. I suspect Ferentz would lay ALL of this at the feet of personnel. But, until this year he has been stubborn about freshmen. I think he has grown there, even though it was forced upon him. The injuries…injuries…injuries. They have been substantial. In looking over the stats above you can go straight to injuries.

But, then you come back to Moeaki disappearing and rediculous interceptions.

It’s not easy to figure out.

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 8, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I believe it's the injuries

Back to the execution angle – I don’t think the coaches like to ask players to do things they haven’t practiced, practiced, practiced. When players go down, the backups haven’t had the reps that the starters have had. Gameplans get simpler and as the injuries pile up – to match up with the personnel that will be on the field. Iowa is not and never will be a deep team. As much as we all like the “next man in” attitude, there is a drop off.

I read somewhere (I can’t find it, dammit) where KF says that teams are gameplanning against Tony M – bringing safety down or something.. That should open other things up – maybe the long pass? Many of the interceptions of late have been on the long ball. I’ve heard fans begging to “open things up”, and the deep shots have been open this year. Vandy missed DJK yesterday on another. Unfortunately Ricky has not always been accurate on those throws either (especially into the wind…….

Let’s see how much Vandy can pick up this week. He’s definitely go the arm for the position and seems pretty poised back there – tossing the ball away when things are not there. OSU’s pass rush looked GOOD against PSU. Let’s see if our o-line can give the kid some time.

by hdhawk on Nov 8, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Moeaki

I am pretty positive that the exact quote from Ferentz about Moeaki is that he is the “best blocking tight end he has coached on any level”. That is not the same thing as the best tight end. The announcers have repeatedly said that Ferentz said Moeaki was simply the best, but I think they were wrong.

by StevenDS on Nov 8, 2009 4:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Pshaw!

Announcers are never wrong.

by Bucketochicken on Nov 8, 2009 4:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think he is certainly the best blocking tight end.

And he may even be the most talented tight end KF has ever had… but production-wise, there’s just no logical argument for him being the best.

But, yeah, in any event — announcers are dumb. Especially when Bob Griese or Bob Davie is involved.

by RossWB on Nov 8, 2009 5:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I keep going back to when Christensen threw KOK under the bus for not working on mechanics.

Our QB’s NEVER progress the way other schools do. Look at Tate, Christensen, and now Stanzi. All showed promise and potential as a young’n, but never put it together to be a really good QB. Stanzi has a year left, so the verdict is still out on him.

I dont mind KOK’s play calling for the most part, but he fails miserably at so many other parts of his job, mainly creativity in gameplanning, and the development of QB’s. His play calling works when we have a run game, but averaging 2.4YPC isn’t going to get the job done for almost any coordinator.

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by HawksFlyHigh on Nov 8, 2009 11:11 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Question!

Is a run game also part of scheming? I mean, we always assume a good passing game is due to great scheming. Why not the run game? I am not, by the way, suggesting that anyone here is saying it is not. But, KOK deserves credit and criticism for all parts of our offensive production, or lack there of.

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 8, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, there's not a whole lot of scheming to it

We basically have about four run plays. The success has come largely from the blocking scheme, which is Ferentz’s baby as far as I know.

by NorseHawk on Nov 8, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The Tate point is annoying.
Our QB’s NEVER progress the way other schools do. Look at Tate, Christensen, and now Stanzi. All showed promise and potential as a young’n, but never put it together to be a really good QB.

His numbers as a junior were better than his numbers as a sophomore in every category; there wasn’t a massive uptick, but we may never see a 3000-yd/30-TD passer under KF/KOK. His numbers as a senior were down, but it’s difficult to separate out how much of that was due to him and how much was due to his injuries that year and the relatively dire state of our receiving options (in recent years, only 2007 may have had worse options in the passing game).

Perhaps the real question is — what is the ceiling for the Iowa passing offense under KF/KOK? Tate threw for the most passing yards of any of the current era QBs in 2005: 2828. Banks threw for the most TDs in 2002: 26. How likely is it that we’ll see those numbers topped when they haven’t in the first 10+ years of the KF/KOK run?

by RossWB on Nov 8, 2009 11:36 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you so much for this

You saved me the time of making basically the exact same post. The way Iowa fans treat Tate in hindsight is really unfair and bugs the hell out of me. He was one of the best QBs in Iowa history, and wasn’t just a one year wonder. He was better in basically every way except wins as a junior, and judging an individual player by wins is retarded.

by NorseHawk on Nov 8, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

2005 is such a weird year to me.

It seemed like football karma somewhat balancing out the good luck we had in the preceding years (especially 2004). Change the result of, say, two plays — the onside kick against NW and the non-holding call on Breaston’s TD in the Michigan game — and we’re probably 9-2 going into the bowl game that year. The difference between what we look back and perceive as a good year and what we perceive as a bad year is so tiny sometimes.

by RossWB on Nov 8, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I still think it's the 2nd best team Ferentz has had on talent, after 2002.

They just didn’t catch any good breaks. Very frustrating.

by NorseHawk on Nov 8, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

QB's not getting developed

is on the QB’s coach and Ferentz as much as it is KOK.

If Iowa doesn’t have the man they need in that spot, replace him. It’s not like money is an issue with this program. The loyalty Kirk has shown with his staff is admirable, but sometimes you have to make a change.

In 100 years, we'll all be dead.

by Flakbait on Nov 8, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The conundrum is

how do you seriously ask for change, or demand change when a team is 9-1 after being predicted by everyone to be the fourth best team in the conference? How do you demand change when you lose your starting RB before the season starts and then rely on two freshmen? How do you admit to change when your #2 receiver was a QB less than a year earlier?

This is the whole question for me. It is as though we would need to overhaul the whole deal. How can Ferentz let KOK go? He can’t. We need KOK to have an epiphany, and then maybe make a change to one of our coaches so we can get some QB coaching in there. As Morehouse reminded us, there is an NCAA limit on the size of your staff. If we hire a QB coach, someone has to go.

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 8, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

"is on the QB’s coach and Ferentz as much as it is KOK"

Apparently you don’t realize that KOK is the QB coach.

by the_iowa_hawkeye on Nov 9, 2009 8:16 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe that's the issue?

Maybe it’s time to bring back in a separate QB coach rather? IIRC, Chuck Long was originally the QB coach under Ferentz before he left to take the coordinator job at OU. So it wouldn’t be the first time that KOK didn’t hold both roles.

by Abbas_Cincinnatus on Nov 9, 2009 8:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

But as I understand it Iowa is at its limit for assistant coaches. So someone would have to go. My vote is for KOK.

by the_iowa_hawkeye on Nov 9, 2009 12:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We've needed a KOK epiphany for years

and it hasn’t happened.

To justify the call for change, you look at how the offense has performed and decide if it is acceptable. In the last ten years he has produced:
11, 11, 10, 9, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 3
5 of those years are just unacceptable. 2 are decent and 3 are good.

Lack of talent? Why isn’t our evaluating and recruiting keeping up?
Lack of development? Why aren’t the guys developing?
Play calling? Who is calling the plays?

It all comes down to KOK. Ferentz needs to deal with the entire team and all of the extra obligations that come with being head coach. He needs somebody in place that can deliver a game ready offense every week. KOK just isn’t that guy.

In 100 years, we'll all be dead.

by Flakbait on Nov 8, 2009 12:16 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Iowa has

48 wins in conference in this decade. The only teams with more are:
Ohio State – 62
Michigan – 53

Next best is Penn State and Wisky, both with 43.

It is really hard to make changes when you are the third best team in the conferernce and the other two are the first and fifth winningest programs in history.

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 8, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

When you're the third-best team in a two-team conference

It’s not worth all that much. But if you’re Just Iowa, I guess it’s all you deserve.

by Nyghtewynd on Nov 8, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously?

‘Nyghtewynd’? Don’t you have a D&D game or SCA meeting to get back to?

by Brock Sampson on Nov 8, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I was just thinking...

…how badly I needed someone’s approval for a screenname. THANK YOU! THANK YOU MR. SAMPSON!

by Nyghtewynd on Nov 8, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Iowa the team has won 48

How many has Iowa the offense performed well in?

In 100 years, we'll all be dead.

by Flakbait on Nov 8, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Unless, of course, you want to be the best...

…and recognize that one half (or actually, 2/3 as I think Iowa’s special teams have been pretty good as well) is consistently better than the other half.

People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett

by tyger1147 on Nov 8, 2009 5:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

How many of those wins were won with Defense?

And won in spite of a crappy offense – not because of it.

by the_iowa_hawkeye on Nov 9, 2009 8:17 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What's your point?

Wins due to offensive superiority are worth double when looking back? In what universe?

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 9, 2009 9:06 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The point is

You cannot look at a win and claim the OC must therefore be doing a good job. The OC’s production must be looked at on its own merits.

by the_iowa_hawkeye on Nov 9, 2009 12:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

As frustrating as yesterday's loss was,

pinning the QB development on KOK is maybe shortsighted. A route that is run incorrectly, a missed assignment on a block, or just being overall less talented than the other side I think play as much a part in the development process for a QB as coaching. This team is playing with virtually a second string squad on offense if you factor in not just players that are out but also 1st string time lost earlier in the year due to injuries or injuries still lingering.

The margin of error on this team is so slight, that it makes you appreciate the job that has been done to get 9-1. There is still a very legitimate shot of a Rose Bowl bid with two games remaining. Too be critical now I feel is doing a disservice to the comendable job of coaching the staff has done, (KOK included). Fighting this battle with one-hand tied behind the back, (as I believe this staff is doing right now), and still having a chance to be top dog in the conference – it baffles me that there are supporters of this program that are suggesting change is needed.

by Pubes in Pink Urinals on Nov 8, 2009 12:18 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

pinning the QB development on KOK is maybe shortsighted

Not when he is the one responsible for developing the QB. Was Vandenberg prepaired in the slightest to step into a game situation? Answer: No. Vandenberg never gets any reps with the first team in practice. Why? That is utterly bone-headed and just an example of KOK’s lousy preperation and development.

by the_iowa_hawkeye on Nov 9, 2009 8:20 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Inside the 20s

My take on O’Keefe for years has been that his play calling is fine (for our system and style) from 20 to 20. But from end zone to 20, on both sides of the field, he stinks.

by The Naked Bootleg on Nov 8, 2009 12:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Naked Boot on the Goal Line?

O’Keefe has a weak offensive mind, period. I am just some drunk alumni and I can tell what plays the Hawks are going to run so I can only imagine what highly paid professionals can figure out. Stanzi running the Patriots offense has been the best offense in 2009 but KOK will not stay with it and instead can not get enough of those long drawn out stretch plays. McNutt/DJK/Moeaki are the big time play makers and offensive focus should be revolved more around them. This team wins in spite of KOK and not because of him.

I will give O’Keefe some small credit for not running 10 bubble screens every game anymore.

"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,

by Mac G on Nov 8, 2009 2:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

That was just a terrible play ...

In that situation an o-coordinator’s first priority has to be protecting the football. A naked boot going toward an all-american caliber defensive end? In your end zone? That was just thoughtless. I’d rather Brandon Wegher get three tries for two or three yards followed by a punt. The Hawks do that …

by Blackheartnopants on Nov 8, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you watch the Indy game last week?

You know that Naked Bootleg went for 92yrds and a score last week right?

"Are you sayin' Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?"

by DCHawkeye07 on Nov 9, 2009 6:55 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't care what you call the play ...

It was the wrong place and time to have it run. The Hawks were protecting a lead in the first half at home. I stand by my original post. In that situation, the o-coordinator’s responsibility is to protect the football and, by extention, the quarterback and the lead. O’Keefe did not. It was a terrible play.

The play worked against Indiana because the Hoosiers have no all-american defensive linemen. You know, like the one who crashed our naked bootleg, rollout, whatchamacallit and ended our shot at a national title. Also, when you’re getting pimp-slapped by the Hoosier football team, trailing in the second half is the time to let it all hang out.

The Whatchamallcallit, by the way, is one tasty candy bar.

by Blackheartnopants on Nov 9, 2009 9:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And if Wegher gets stuffed for a -4 yard play (and a safety)?

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 9, 2009 9:11 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What if?

Losing 2 is better than losing 7 … and your quarterback.

by Blackheartnopants on Nov 9, 2009 9:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

you can see into the future?

wow

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 9, 2009 9:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I can, in point of fact ...

But only about 5 minutes into the future. it’s a skill that’s good only for driving in unfamiliar cities and watching sports.

by Blackheartnopants on Nov 9, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hell yes she was.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Nov 10, 2009 8:45 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, it was MORE naked than this one.

Go to YouTube or the link below and then prepare to eat some words.

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 9, 2009 9:07 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And one more point...

I generally like what O’Keefe has done with the offense. Its just that every once and a while he gets a case of vapor lock that gives me chest pains.

by Blackheartnopants on Nov 9, 2009 9:11 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder how we all will feel about KOK if we drop our last three games? I suspect that the tone will change.

by Kmurp on Nov 8, 2009 2:01 PM CST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Or if we win next week?

Will we say, “well of course, we won because of the this kid doesn’t throw interceptions like Stanzi” or “the line finally put it all together”…we’ll see how it plays out. I doubt KOK will get much credit for a win though. That seems to be his fate in this town.

Given that Iowa has not been “out” of a game in a long time—it was three seasons ago in fact—I am very interested to see how they perform without Stanzi. They might be gutted. Or, they might rise up (which still may not be enough). But if they lay down, I will be interested in that too. I would be shocked if they did but it would be one hell of a statement about Stanzi’s importance to the team’s collective psyche.

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 8, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you really implying that KOK has gotten an unfair shake? The guy has been tormenting Hawkeye fans for 11 years with awful play calling and most of the criticism has been legitimate.

"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,

by Mac G on Nov 8, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I am saying that some people (and if the "blogs" are any indication, most people)

cannot give the man credit for much of anything positive that happens offensively. Hey, your entitled to dislike him, and even dislike those who like him, but if you are just whitewashing everything he does then I, for one, can’t take you seriously.

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 8, 2009 6:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

wildcat McNutt next week

for a change of pace?

this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.

by pfac51 on Nov 8, 2009 8:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I thought KOK’s play calling against Iowa State and Penn State was superb. I believe commenters on this site actually repeated this as well as did some of my fellow Hawkeye fans. Most would agree that this is the most talented group of Hawkeye WRs/TEs that Iowa has had under KOK and the run blocking has been spotty but KOK still wants to run the long stretch play like he has the 02 line.

I understand your point that fans unfairly look for a scape goat after a crushing loss and KOK’s dumb naked boot leg play is an easy target. The play just symbolizes the fan frustration that a large number of fans have had following this guy call plays for 11 years. The lack of NFL talent on the offensive side of the ball, the conservative vanilla approach to offense, Overuse of the bubble screen, Tate’s comments about the system, playing McCann over Banks, failed Jake experiment, and on and on. Hell, I could site several games over the years if you want to relive that pain. Ferentz shares responsibility for these calls as well.

Critics of his offensive philosophy have merit to their arguments and it does not mean they are all some whip lash lets fire the coach remarks.

"You taught me a lesson, I was going to give someone the benefit of doubt, and I almost did, then something said, no don't, don't, its not for you, its not my thing" Larry David,

by Mac G on Nov 8, 2009 11:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The only way we win is

if the D scores 21 and keeps Ohio under 21 points.

by Stay thirsty, my friends. on Nov 8, 2009 7:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if they can score 21, but I think they can keep Ohio State at 21 or lower

FWIW, I think your secondary is better than ours. Or at least less capable of giving up 50 yard touchdown throws where the man is so wide open it doesn’t matter that Pryor threw a poor pass.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Nov 8, 2009 8:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I've complained about KOK as much as anyone, but...

1.) On the possession before the injury, Stanzi threw an interception after dropping back in the pocket. One of my friends complained, saying KOK should call for Stanzi to roll out more because he throws better on the move.

2.) The naked bootleg that Stanzi got injured on was pretty similar in play-calling and field-position to the play that went for a 92 yard TD and changed the game last week. The only thing noticeably different was that the blocking failed this time.

3.) Even with Stanzi getting injured, my belief is that if he hadn’t fumbled, Iowa would have won the game. (Not that I’m saying the fumble was entirely Stanzi’s fault.) If he holds on the the ball, that’s a safety instead of a TD. Then Iowa free-kicks to NW, the defense does what they always do, Vandenberg has a little more time to mentally prepare for going in at quarterback trying to protect an undefeated season, and maybe he doesn’t throw a pick on his first pass attempt. (Or even if Vandenberg still throws an INT, maybe the defense has set up better starting field position, so NW doesn’t get such great field position to start their next drive.) In my mind, the fumble led directly to 14 points for NW, instead of the 2 that would’ve resulted from a safety. Since the game was decided by 7 points, that 12-point swing played a large part.

by cbrett42 on Nov 8, 2009 4:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I felt the same way about your number 3

Fumbling there was a huge turning point in the game, even if Stanzi doesn’t get hurt.

Its a funny story actually.

by Wad on Nov 9, 2009 9:32 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't want to completely blame KOK,

because I think the O-Line has played like dog crap for too many plays in the last couple games (I’m looking at you, Calloway).

But that Stanzi fumble play reminded me of a play (I think in 2001). We were backed up to the same end zone against Michigan, with a not-fast QB (McCann) and Michigan comes in, crushes him, gets a fumble for a TD.

It pisses me off that we are making the same mistakes 8 years later with another QB who is kind of slow. If you have Brad Banks, or Robinson of Michigan, or somebody close to that quick, you can run drop-back draws or roll-outs or bootlegs in the end zone. If not, run the freaking ball out of there with a quick play to a RUNNING BACK.

Who is responsible for calling both plays? You guessed it – Frank Stallone.

I mean, Ken O’Keefe.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Nov 8, 2009 8:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah,

there’s a reason why most teams, when backed up in their own end zone, run the ball 3 times in a row. Especially when they’re ahead by 10 freakin’ points. Early in the game.

In 100 years, we'll all be dead.

by Flakbait on Nov 8, 2009 9:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Allow me to remind you of the 6 to 8 minus4 yard runs that Wegher has averaged per gamesince the Iowa State game*

Seriously, come on. It was only a questionable call if we hadn’t run it about 273 times already. Not to mention having run it to the tune of 92 yards against Indiana.

*I don’t know why exactly, but I feel weirdly protective of Ken O’Keefe. I need to figure that out.

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 8, 2009 10:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

as a reminder

go to the 2:45 mark to see it again…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SLUsNYH1IY

or bootleg

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 8, 2009 10:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I, too, feel protective of Ken O'Keefe

Kind of like caring for a lost puppy with an injured leg.

No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer

by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Nov 8, 2009 11:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

6 to 8 minus 4 yard runs what?

So you’re trying to blame KOK’s ineptitude on Wegher? Really? And by the way, he has “averaged” nothing of the kind. He had a poor 2-game streak and has been running rather well since then. Had the refs not jobed him he’d have had another 100+ yard game and likely could have won the game with his long TD.

by the_iowa_hawkeye on Nov 9, 2009 8:29 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Uh, I don't think I blamed ANYONE

if I were to though, I would blame the O-line. The reason they did not just run Wegher into the middle of the line is because there have been numerous examples of a D-lineman or LB blowing up the run to the tune of -4 yards. That would be a safety down there. That fear was justified. I don’t know why it wa Wegher who accumulated these and not a more even distribution between he and Robinson. But, the facts are that Wegher has been blown up behind the line on too many runs. I don’t think it is his fault at all, although MANY have speculated that he tips off plays somehow. I am not sold on that.

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 9, 2009 8:54 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I COMPLETELY AGREE SMA...

the six most important aspects to winning football is blocking and tackling blocking and tackling blocking and tackling. That Wildcat DE that put the hit on Stanzi looked like he’d been running all the way from the parking lot. He was UNABATED. It’s the same way I feel about Wegher. Every time he got stacked up (to my memory) it was when he was on the right side. Saturday’s run from scrimmage to TD was over the left tackle (and, for once, I do not believe the holding penalty that was called contributed to the hole).

I am a big fan of both O and D lines always (maybe because I was a Guard the brief time I played), so I don’t want to be pissy. They’re doing a good job but it seems on some plays, a blocking back would help. Or a different scheme. But I’ll defer any opinion to Ft. Ferentz. In spite of the loss it’s been a helluva year.

By the way, don’t we have a game next week?

by Zulu on Nov 9, 2009 9:30 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, no

First of all, Wegher was NOT being stuffed for a loss in this game – nor in the last. What’s more, Iowa was on its 6 so no, even a loss of 4 would not have been a safety. In fact, Wegher ran for a loss of yardage only one time in the entire game – no matter how many they were stacking the box with.

What’s more, it isn’t like there are only two options: Run Wegher or roll Stanzi into the endzone. If KOK had his heart set on a passing play there are several others that don’t involve putting your QB into his own endzone with his back turned on an All-American DE.

It was a dumb playcall.

by the_iowa_hawkeye on Nov 9, 2009 12:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Your right

it was dumb. KOK cost us the season.

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 9, 2009 1:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Rollout

I don’t recall Stanzi ever having his back turned on Wooton. His rollout took him right into where Wooton was coming in at. Stanzi should have thrown the ball away but he tried hanging on to it.

It wasn’t the greatest playcall in the world, but when it work the other 90% of the time, no one bitches about it then.

The play calling for this game was created for having Stanzi under center, not Vandy. I guarantee you next week we’ll see a completely different offensive look having a different QB running the show.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Nov 9, 2009 1:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

1st Down

has been every shade of awful this year. The predominant strategy of every defense we’ve faced this year has been 10 in the box on 1st, and make Stanzi make plays on 2nd and 3rd, and that’s only going to get worse with James back there coming up.

Wegher screens FTW.

Keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either, Dude.

by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Nov 8, 2009 11:27 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

We fans need to keep a perspective view

Folks, I am as frustrated about Saturday’s loss as anyone (BAD KITTIES!), and I know the ‘ol cliché "If you would have told me in August we’d be 9-1 at this point…" Nonetheless, a story on perspective:

A guy runs into his old pal at the tavern:
“Hey Bill, how’ve you been?”
“Don’t call me Bill, call me ‘Lucky’.”
“Why should I call you ‘Lucky’?”
“I won the million dollar lotto last week!”
The next week, they run into eachother again at the tavern:
“Hey Lucky, how’ve you been?”
“Don’t call me Lucky, call me ‘Lucky Lucky’.”
“Why should I call you ‘Lucky Lucky’?”
“I bet the million I won last week at the horse track and tripled it!”
The following week, they again run into eachother at the tavern:
“Hey Lucky Lucky, how’ve you been?”
“Don’t call me Lucky Lucky, call me ‘Lucky Lucky Lucky’.”
“Why should I call you ‘Lucky Lucky Lucky’?”
“The other day I was banging my girlfriend, when her husband suddenly walks in and shoots me in the ass!”
“That doesn’t sound so lucky.”
“Yeah, but five minutes earlier and he would have shot me in the head!”

Perspective, folks.

"Oh no, don't do that, don't do that. If you shoot him, you'll just make him mad." - The Waco Kid

by HawkOnRails on Nov 9, 2009 12:04 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

The Point is Moot

I could argue that I like Ken O’Keefe and think he gets a bad rap. I could argue that us armchair QBs are so critical because we don’t truly understand the nuances of this offense; that play calls that seem so worthless are setting up success for the next quarter, or the next half, or three games down the line. I could argue that if the players could consistently execute the plays (like in 2001 and 2002) this could be an offensive juggernaut. I could very easily argue all of these things..

But I’m not going to.

The fact is that Ken O’Keefe will be the Offensive Coordinator as long as Kirk Ferentz is the head coach. People can bitch about him all they want, but it will never change. It’s just like masturbation. It can be fun, but it’s not really going to accomplish anything.

So go ahead and continue masturbating. I’m going to continue trusting Coach Ferentz and enjoying this wonderful season.

BELIEVE IN IOWA

by Wegher Please! on Nov 9, 2009 8:56 AM CST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

thank god. Wegher’s post made me think something was wrong with me.

by txhawkeye on Nov 9, 2009 9:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow....

To those of you for which ejaculation equals accomplishment, I salute you. You lead a simpler life than I do!

by Wegher Please! on Nov 10, 2009 12:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

What else would it signify?

It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's just that I don't care

by Colteyes on Nov 10, 2009 6:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I Try to keep my peresepective

I keep thinking if someone told me in August that as an offense:
Our starting quarterback will have 15 touchdowns to 14 interceptions (3 pick sixes)
we lost our 1 rb to pros
                     2 rb to acl preseason
                        started Paki to begin the season
                     3 rb to high ankle sprain midseason
                     4 rb to foot preseason( I don’t know where he fits maybe ahead of A-rob?)
rely on a true freshman for rb and he leads in rushing TD
lose a veteran WR/PR to ACL midseason
lose a veteeran WR to concussion in midseason
our leading WR last year is hampered first half of the season by hamstring and PHarty
our TE misses 3 games to high ankle sprain
our LT misses 3 games to thyroid
our RT misses games to moped
Dace Richardson would start, play, be dominant and we would miss him when he goes out with an ankle fracture?
The only two(correct me if I’m wrong) players on offense to start and finish all ten games would be our C and FB
We would be 9-0 going into Sat complaining about not getting enough BCS love
And it would take a sack/fumble for TD knocking our QB out of the game to break the string and our fanbase would be in full fledged Buckeye melt down mode I would want to share what you were smoking
                    

Everybody wants a little milk of Michael

by Dr Feelgood on Nov 9, 2009 9:15 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Also...

I think people are forgetting that Jordan Bernstein was supposed to challenge at CB before his injury, Prater sat out the first two games because of suspension and Greenwood is currently working through a concussion that caused him to miss the last two weeks. Those injuries may not have been responsible for losses, but they’re still significant.

by Abbas_Cincinnatus on Nov 9, 2009 9:23 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Before the very first kick off this season...

a long time buddy asked me how I thought the Hawks would do. I said,

“Like every other season. We’ll lose one we’re supposed to win. Win one we’re suppose to lose. Start slow and finish strong. Go to a mid tier Bowl, maybe even on New Year’s Morning, and beat the be-Jesus out of some SEC team.”

So far, so good.

by Zulu on Nov 9, 2009 9:19 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

My only fear

is that we won’t be able to finish strong with all the injuries. But yeah, I’m looking forward to the bowl

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Nov 9, 2009 5:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Just a thought...

Several people on here have said that backed up against your own end zone with a 10 point lead, you should run the ball three times, then punt if you haven’t gotten a first down. And it seems that with Iowa’s generally conservative play-calling, that’s what you would expect. What are the odds that KOK only called for the bootleg because he felt that Iowa needed to be more agressive, win by a larger margin, and get those “style points” that everyone in the national media has been complaining about the past few weeks?

by cbrett42 on Nov 9, 2009 9:51 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

No! He called it

because he wanted Stanzi to get injured so Vandenberg could come in and lose the game. Then the following week Vandenberg leads the team to an improbable victory so KOK can claim genius, miracle worker status in Hawkeye Nation.

KOK is always thinking….

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 9, 2009 9:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Good call

I forgot how crafty KOK was, always thinking three steps ahead of a normal man.

by cbrett42 on Nov 9, 2009 10:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Do not play chess against KOK.

Or if you do, expect to be without a wallet, pants and a house by the time you’re done.

by Abbas_Cincinnatus on Nov 9, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Trying too hard

From where I was sitting (Culver City, CA) it looked pretty clear KOK and/or Stanzi were just trying to establish the deep-ball one too many times. It was like they both wished Stanzi were an elite game-manager instead of the mistake-prone gunslinger he really is. They completely over-relied on deep passes when everybody in every seat watching that game knew that Stanzi is not that accurate, he struggles on long passes, especially when the margin for error is so low. So he gets picked and they just plain forgot about the third quarter hosting Indiana and just foolishly assumed they could keep chucking it. Northwestern is not an elite athletic team, but those players have higher average SAT scores than Iowa – they saw the pattern and pounced on it. We lost that game due to stupid coaching. When your QB is Ricky Stanzi, you only let him loose when you’re losing and NEED miracles.

by HollywoodHawkeye on Nov 9, 2009 1:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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