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Ivan Maisel Is An Ungrateful Little Twit

Maiselgoogly_medium Ivan Maisel is one of the most accomplished college football writers out there, and is generally thoughtful enough not to engage in the prickish nonsense that usually afflicts ESPN "personalities"*. Today, then, is a dark day in his journalistic history.

It's been a while since we engaged in a good, old-fashioned fisking; this seems to be one of the instances in which it's, in our eyes, warranted. Those of you who were unlucky enough to visit ESPN.com today would have seen a heavily hyped story by Mr. Maisel in which he--in no uncertain terms--calls the 2009 season a "fraud." Not a "disappointment," not "not as good as 2008," a fraud. It's the type of column that can only come from the bubble of career sports journalists, ones who feel their sport "owes" something to them; in Maisel's case, the sport seems to owe him a predictable path to the finish. No, really, that's the crux of his argument.

I thought about fisking the entire thing, until RossWB reminded me that I'd just be repeating myself over and over. Then I thought about posting the image at the above right (the eyes and mouth of which, by the way, I stole from @oatmeal; his cartoons are amazing and you've probably already seen one without knowing) every time Maisel wrote a paragraph that was just a restatement of "this is not what I expected in the preseason," but we figured you didn't want to look at that thing 25 times in one column.

So here are the highlights, dutifully fisked; rest assured that we took every effort not to misrepresent the tone of his column. As if that were possible. We'll just say this; we found the whole thing completely objectionable, and he didn't even mention Iowa. Yeah. Read on.

Star-divide

I want my money back.

What money? And from whom?

It is the third week in November -- the traditional beginning of rivalry season -- and the best game is No. 11 Oregon at unranked Arizona.

Ohio State versus Michigan? Three years ago, the so-called best rivalry in college football gave us No. 1 vs. No. 2, the last such regular-season game. This year, the Wolverines have lost six consecutive Big Ten games and hope that an upset of the No. 10 Buckeyes will get them into the Little Caesars Pizza Bowl.

#25 Cal at #17 Stanford's going to be a good one too, but he has a point. This week kinda sucks.

It is the third week in November. No. 1 Florida is playing Florida International, No. 2 Alabama is playing Chattanooga, an FCS school, and what was the Southeastern Conference thinking when it cooked this up?

Also a decent point, but where was this complaint in August? Or, for that matter, the prior four years once the season went to 12 games? Here's a list of UF's opponents in the third weekend of November in that same timespan: South Carolina, Florida Atlantic, Western Carolina, nobody at all. They moved FSU to the 4th Saturday in November once the 12-game season became set in stone. Quelle horreur.

Similarly, Alabama's Iron Bowl with Alabama is next week, not this week; like with Florida-FSU, this is a function of the season being one week longer, but teams still finishing the season with their big rivalry game. Maisel really ought to know this.

If Maisel's contention is that the SEC ought to be scheduling tougher opponents to fill the non-conference slate, hey, no arguments here. Ever. But he's complaining about a quirk that came about because the scheduling rules were changed once lots of deals for those seasons were already in place. It's not really a big deal at all.

I want my money back.

Yeah, we got that. The above questions remain.

I'm having this dream in which the new BCS executive director is not Bill Hancock but Bernie Madoff. The college football season is four weeks from concluding, and I'm still waiting to see the returns it promised me in August.

This is childlike petulance sandwiched by two admissions of outright hallucination. Bernie Madoff stole billions of dollars. That has nothing to do with the BCS in any way, shape, or form. Further, in case Maisel forgot, this is college football, a sport played by 18- to 23-year-olds. Thus, in college football, shit goes crazy all the time.

The preseason rankings? No. 3 Oklahoma is 6-4 and looks good only in comparison to No. 4 USC.

Penn State, the preseason No. 9, lost to the only two good teams it played. And lost both at home. By more than 10 points.

Par for the course. Hell, just last year, Clemson, Auburn, and LSU were preseason top 10 picks and finished outside the polls. Where was the "fuck college football for wronging me" narrative then?

Maisel then lists the ills that have befallen the seemingly-prohibitive preseason candidates for Heisman--Colt McCoy, Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow--before this strange sentiment:

None of this is to say that the Heisman candidates who have risen in their stead are not good players. Most of them play this position referred to as "running back." Kids, ask your fathers. They remember when "running backs" won the Heisman every year. It was back when there were such things as '75 Corollas. And clutches.

Again, ten seconds on Google should tell Maisel that the Oughts are only the second decade in college football history in which quarterbacks have won more Heismans than running backs. The first isn't the '90s; it's the '60s, which should seem even more repulsive to Maisel.

Further, those running backs winning the Heisman in the '70s and '80s? Guys like Archie Griffin, Tony Dorsett, Charles White, O.J. Simpson, Herschel Walker. Bo Jackson, the bastard. The new face of Heisman at quarterback? Gino Torretta. And remember, who did Gino Torretta beat out for that Heisman? Marshall Faulk. Yes, the Downtown Club thought Gino Torretta was better than Marshall Faulk. We'll take the running back era over the quarterback era any day.

So I want my money back.

WE GET IT. YOU'RE SPOILED.

Stanford, the hottest team in college football, lost to Wake Forest.

The hottest team in college football this decade [he means USC] has lost two out of its past three games by a combined score of 102-41.

If Maisel truly expects his readers to believe that Stanford breaking USC's stranglehold on the Pac-10 is bad for college football, then he's spent a little too much time in Bristol. USC's more popular than Stanford, yes, and there are probably a lot more people who would wait in line for tickets to watch Matt Barkley than Toby Gerhardt, but that's a short-term symptom of USC dominance, not proof that such dominance must exist in perpetuity or must only be broken by an undefeated team. Yes, Stanford lost to Wake Forest. This is college football. It happens all the time.

Notre Dame is in the throes of yet another coaching drama. It used to be that the Fighting Irish could be good for a national championship or a Heisman Trophy every few years. Since Lou Holtz retired in 1996, Notre Dame hasn't strayed too far from 7-5.

So, let's get this straight. Running backs winning the Heisman a lot during that time span is an ugly relic of "your dad's football" (Note to Mr. Maisel: you're about as old as my dad). Notre Dame's prominence during the same time frame? GLORY DAYS! Seriously, here's an exhaustive list of who cares about Notre Dame:

  • Notre Dame alumni
  • Catholic school children
  • College football writers over 40
  • Like a couple hundred NBC viewers every Saturday

And that's it. The Irish aren't just yesterday's news, they're yesterdecade's news. Stop slobbering all over them. They're only "the team you either love or hate" because nobody in the sportswriter bubble will let us just ignore that middling old dinosaur of a program. Notre Dame makes Michigan look like Boise State.

There are four weeks remaining in the regular season -- don't forget, Army-Navy moved to Dec. 12 -- and 34 bowl games. A voice inside counsels, "Patience."

Smart.

It will be great to see Texas say goodbye to McCoy in his last home game on Saturday, and see the denizens of the Swamp do the same to Tebow the following Saturday.

Makes you wish there were more white Christian quarterbacks these days, dunnit? These guys play football the right way! They use prayer! HOW DARE YOU NOT LIKE THEM.

There's nothing that a classic game between No. 1 Florida and No. 2 Alabama couldn't cure. The two of them are a Crimson Tide victory in the Iron Bowl away from the first meeting of 8-0 division champions in the 18 seasons since the Southeastern Conference expanded.

There's nothing that a BCS Championship Game featuring either Florida-Texas or Alabama-Texas could not cure. And if one of those three takes to bed with a bad case of upset, seeing TCU, Cincinnati, Boise State or Georgia Tech in the title game would go a long way toward salvaging the season.

Oh, so the overwhelmingly likely scenario for the SEC, then every plausible national title scenario would save the season?

Then what the hell is the point of this entire article? Seriously, if nothing short of a nuclear blast in either Austin, Gainesville, or Boise is going to ruin the season in the end, then what is Maisel feeling so bilked over? That the secondary conferences aren't interesting enough? Because when we checked a couple weeks ago, everyone at ESPN was crapping snarled rebar over the notion that Iowa might run the table in the BXI and get a TOTALLY UNDESERVED BCS bid on account of the pesky objective data that the computers were noticing.

Really, there's no central theme to Maisel's argument; it's a mishmash of "this change is bad" or "this detail's bad out of context so here we go" or whatever. It really takes an insulated, incompetent reporter to look at the totality of this season, see the six(!) undefeated teams left this late, and conclude that the season was a sham or a ripoff or whatever. Moreover, it's unbecoming of the college football beat writer at the nation's most dominant college football source to take such an unfocused potshot at that very sport without making a cohesive (or, hell, coherent) argument at the same time; here we are, though, and I can't figure out just what Maisel was trying to communicate with his column. Wait, there was one theme:

All of those games together may be enough to make me feel as though I have gotten my money's worth. As of now, I feel like a coach who has been outschemed.

By a coach named Ponzi.

That theme, of course, is that Maisel was swindled--but by whom**? His own untethered expectations? Being that we can't fathom another answer, we'll just suggest that if he really doesn't like how this season has played out thus far (even in full acknowledgment that the postseason will be a chaotic clusterfudge of deserving, undefeated teams), then that's a problem with himself, and not one that ought to be foisted upon the hundreds of thousands of unwitting daily readers of ESPN.

*It's worth noting, of course, that even restricted to the MSM, the worst offenders are not on ESPN. We would read 10 Pat Forde columns before one Gregg Doyel wordvomit, and fuck Pat Forde.
**No, not him.

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So for him to get his “money’s worth” he would like to see a running back with the Heisman while having the preseason favorites of his picking play in the NCG? I guess we should just hand the trophy to Florida, Texas, USC, Notre Dame, Alabama, Oklahoma or PSU? Sorry, it isn’t “we” it is he should anoint the champion in August. Dispensing with the regular season?

Loose interpretation of article – parity sucks, tradition rules, screw you overachieving “bad” teams, you f’ed up my season.

Said, if for no other reason, to avoid making Pat Angerer angrierer.

by The Bacon Explosion on Nov 19, 2009 8:15 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Crux of argument = “Some really unexpected things happened this season”

He’s trying to spin that into being a bad thing? The unexpected is what makes college football so awesome?

by sullivti on Nov 19, 2009 8:29 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Extra question mark?

by sullivti on Nov 19, 2009 8:29 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The real reason the season is teh suck for these media types:

Frequent Flyer miles – HOW THE HELL AM I GONNA KEEP LEET STATUS WHEN I’M FLYING ALLEGIANT AIR INTO CEDAR FUCKING RAPIDS AND EATING POTATO-FRIED POTATOES IN BOISE!??? Can’t we just say something about eating corn or harvesting corn or ethanol or Ashton Kutcher and be done with it?

Oh? You mean I really only have to watch their football games to write a good story, or vote properly on this ballot? That still seems like a lot of work, how will I fit in my cocaine binge and sex with random USC coeds? Life sucks…

Keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either, Dude.

by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Nov 19, 2009 8:46 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

For the record...

The editors of BHGP do not believe Ivan Maisel is a raging philanderer or cocaine addict.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Oops Pow Surprise on Nov 19, 2009 8:49 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So...?

Partial philanderer and part-time coke user?

by imadirtyoldman on Nov 19, 2009 9:14 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He's just trying to live up to Jack Nicholson from the Departed...

Frank Costello: You want some coke? There it is. Don’t move till you’re numb.

I keed, I keed…

Keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either, Dude.

by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Nov 19, 2009 9:20 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I honestly have to believe

that Pat Forde spent a late night in the office, hacked into Ivan’s computer, and wrote this up himself. I have never read a Maisel column in which he’d been reduced to a bloviating gasbag prior to this.

"Oh no, don't do that, don't do that. If you shoot him, you'll just make him mad." - The Waco Kid

by HawkOnRails on Nov 19, 2009 8:47 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Really?

You really think Pat Forde is smart enough to hack into a computer.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Nov 19, 2009 9:00 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Pat Forde has

a gaggle of college interns do all his work. He’s the next Steve Phillips.

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 19, 2009 9:02 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Or gratuitous

Pics of hot women (which is the only redeeming feature of a Forde column).

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Nov 19, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

NTTAWWT

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 19, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ivan also wants his money back on life because he...

- wonders what happened to the rotary dial phone!
- is shocked IBM and General Motors are just another company struggling to survive!
- can’t believe Dallas isn’t on TV anymore!
- wants the 8 track tape come back so he can play his Air Supply double platinum tape. Damn!
- is appalled that that minimum wage is no longer $3.25
- is leery of the Debit Card (“I was just getting used to the credit card”)
- can’t get used to women going to colleges, or in upper echelons of government, or…

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 19, 2009 8:58 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

These "I miss hegemony and predictability" laments by a journalist

are shocking really. I guess he wants to write a few articles and then just reprint them every year. When a journalist laments change….sad.

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 19, 2009 9:01 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

There's little a journalist can do to recover from publishing a "I remember a time when..." article.

Congrats to Ivan Maisdel. Feel free to yell at the kids running across your lawn.

by Twin Cities Hawk on Nov 19, 2009 9:25 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

What's ironic is he's whining about expectations and being "oversold" the season and he works for ESPN

They are the ones that:

1. Overhype the crap out of the teams they want/expect to win.
2. Mold expectations and opinion in ways they hope will increase their profits.
3 When the pretty boy teams they promoted underperform, or the season doesn’t progress the way they said it would, they act like someone farted in their face.

I’m just pissed the national championship game is moving to ESPN. I think it belittles the game and is bad for the sport.

by HawkeyeRecon on Nov 19, 2009 9:30 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

BINGO!!

This post NAILED it.

It’s BECAUSE of hacky, moronic people and places like ESPN and sportwriters like Maisel that we HAVE all the “crap” that is driving Maisel crazy.

If anything unexpected happens, someone has “ruined” the season!

Look no further than IOWA for an example: in the “new” college FB, we are an aberration to be abhorred and ridden down.

In the “old” college FB, we would have been the Cinderella darling of the season, probably more highly rated than we should have been, rather than the opposite.

I fucking hate ESPN 66% of the time, and the other 34% of the time I’m asleep. They’re trying to TELL us what and whom to like and enjoy on TV, rather than simply presenting facts and football games.

If it's not too much trouble, search your soul--and then ask yourself if maybe I might have a point.

by The Director on Nov 19, 2009 11:06 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...

…they pretty much turned into the MTV of sports sometime around 1990 (give or take a few years), and have been ruining everything they touch ever since. I love me some Sportscenter for the writing, but shit, the things they write ABOUT… well, let’s just end it by saying ESPN had a REALITY SHOW for fuck sakes, and they’ve talked to Justin Timberlake more times in the last two years than MTV has.
ESPN causes angels to lose their wings.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Nov 19, 2009 11:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Disney-ication of ESPN

Happened around the end of the 90s with the ABC-ESPN “synergy” that occurred when Disney acquired ABC (already had ESPN). ESPN’s head at the time, pubicly spoke of expanding the network so that it would be a “sportainment” network, not one devoted solely to sports. It’s at this point that ESPN went from reporting the sports story, to trying to MAKE the story. Crap like this column, the hyping of preseason darlings, complete lack of analysis was simply the inevitable consequence.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Nov 19, 2009 12:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This all actually began with

Entertainment Tonight with Mary Hart. And I am not kidding. there is a great article on this. I look for it and see if there’s a link. But in a nutshell, that show interoduced America to Infotainment. It looked like, sounded like, and riffed off a real newscast but the content was not “news” but just gossip and storymaking. It made it acceptable to not use basic journalistic standards.

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 19, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you are right, Hoya...

It was about that time (late ‘90s and early ’00s) that a lot of the old SportsCenter announcers were either pushed out, or found “better” gigs. Some people liked that, but I didn’t care for the change.

Not long after that, SportsCenter turned into what I call “The Starship SportsCenter” with wacky new graphics and the hippest (sarcasm) new announcers. Of course, you ended up with absolute crap not long after (the “Who’s more Now” contest, ESPN the sports drink, ESPN the Magazine, ESPN the lifestyle, ESPN the shark-jumper.)

Sure, they are still the world-wide leader, but that is only because organizations like Fox are basically copying them or imitating them.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Nov 19, 2009 8:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Great Post OPS

This article is incredibly offensive and insulting to college football fans outside of USC and Notre Dame.

Basically, Idiot’s argument is: if college football ‘royalty’ loses more than 2 games the season is wasted.

Furthermore, if you’re Alabama, Florida, Texas, Cincy, et al, you should be even MORE offended than I am!

by Internet Legend on Nov 19, 2009 9:31 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

You know, there's been a lot of bitching by everybody (MSM) this year.

No true Heisman candidates, best players getting injured, too many undefeateds, and OMG THE BCS!

Here’s the problem:

Defenses have gotten too good. The spread is now defended. Teams aren’t putting up 60-70 points anymore and that’s boring (not to me, I like seeing guys like Clayborn break people in half). If the talking heads would just give some defenses a little bit of credit, maybe they’d be able to put their hankies away for 10 seconds.

by Kinnick Stadium is my Graceland on Nov 19, 2009 9:31 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

"Defenses have gotten too good. The spread is now defended."

Sir, may we direct your attention to the Big XII, circa 12 months ago? It was not a pretty sight. It resembles the C-USA today.

But those are the exceptions that prove the rule. Defenses are indeed, on the whole, getting better at defending the spread, and you don’t see as many sexy numbers being put up. All of which is to say Ivan Maisel wants his money back.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Oops Pow Surprise on Nov 19, 2009 9:36 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You make an awesome point

teams can now defend the vaunted spread offense and defenses make teams look awkward. I wa struck by how immediately and devotedly the MSM jumped on the Oregon band wagon. They all loved the big offensive output against USC—the poster child for great defense the past 8-10 years. They all conveniently glossed over the total shut down that Boise gave them, after having an entire season to prepare for that game. It was as if we were back to old times. Well, then Oregon gets killed by a Big Ten offense and former Big Ten playe ras coach who is all about running the ball right down your throat.

It speaks the notion that ESPN Has removed itself almost entirely from journalism. We are now watching a reality TV show as network. There are producers feverishly trying to create storylines out of supposed “real” things. To see Ivan M. feed that beast is just the…end.

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 19, 2009 9:39 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Also agree, very good points.

But you’re forgetting it’s much easier to write a story about offense than defense, and typically readers want to hear more about the awesome QBs than some gritty d-lineman who can’t be defined so easily with yards and QB rating.

What I’m trying to say is you have a bit of journalism laziness here, especially in an era where these guys are literally defined by the number of pageviews they drive and nothing else. Awesome pass defense doesn’t sell banner ads, Nintendo 12 numbers do.

BSD

by Kevin HD on Nov 19, 2009 9:44 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

so in the end, like all other things...

Its really America’s fault. Damned capitalism…

Keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either, Dude.

by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Nov 19, 2009 9:50 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Very well done.

I read this yesterday and had a bizarre internal reaction to it. It was something along the lines of “but I thought Maisel wasn’t retarded; everything I knew is in shambles!”

Your mini-rant on Notre Dame was solid, too. Thanks OPS.

by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Nov 19, 2009 9:50 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Amen.

I had that exact same reaction when I read the Maisel piece. Glad OPS took the time and effort to give that piece of crap its thoroughly deserved fisking.

Twitter: @scrappled

"When it’s third-and-10, you can take the milk drinkers and I’ll take the whiskey drinkers every time" - Max McGee

by Run Up The Score on Nov 19, 2009 6:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

UND

Yes, our blinding rage/hatred for Notre Dame often renders us unable to form coherent thoughts on how simply irrelevant they’ve become. Well done, all around here. One of your best posts… seriously.

[insert prophetic yet obnoxiously haughty and annoying quote here]

by J Money BS on Nov 19, 2009 9:52 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

It wasn't too long ago...

….that college FB centered around Army, Navy, Notre Dame, ‘Bama, USC, Minnesota, Ohio State, and Oklahoma. I’m talking back in the 50’s and early 60’s. In the 40’s. it was ALL ND and the Army and Navy teams.

Look at how unimportant fully HALF of those teams are now.

Army and Navy are almost irrelevant—in fact, they’ve ALMOST achieved parity with ND. But the media won’t let go of ND, they’re forever ramming them down our throats. Change the name to “Northen Indiana University” and you’ll see that they’re now just another version of a MAC or Big East team, other than the “trappings” (the TV contract and a big stadium).

If it's not too much trouble, search your soul--and then ask yourself if maybe I might have a point.

by The Director on Nov 19, 2009 11:12 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with Maisel

Isn’t Christmas best when you get only what you had on your Christmas list?

Ivan Maisel also
• wants to know the sex of his children four months before they’re born
• reads the ending of Harry Potter before starting the last book
• likes telling you what he got you for your birthday as you’re unwrapping the present
• Eats his Jelly Belly’s with the color chart in hand so he knows what each will taste like

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Nov 19, 2009 10:37 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

He also

• color codes his socks by day of the week
• folds his tightie-whitey’s in neat 4"x 4" squares
• yells advice to the characters in movies
• watches “The Larence Welk Show” for it’s upbeat and modern musical numbers

I have occupational turrettes... My job makes me swear uncontrolably at everyone.

by Ioweegin on Nov 19, 2009 11:29 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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by eleventy on Nov 19, 2009 10:46 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Poetry...

“Makes you wish there were more white Christian quarterbacks these days, dunnit? These guys play football the right way! They use prayer! HOW DARE YOU NOT LIKE THEM.”

by alnamiasIV on Nov 19, 2009 10:46 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Gawd I want someone to come out from espn

And give us the real inside scoop on their operations. Someone a little more credit-worthy than Whitlock. A full book would be best, with disclosures about Production meetings and ‘editors’ and Producers, replete with internal memos or emails that really shine a light on how they conduct their business of ‘journalism.’

I want this even more than I want a popular, active pro football player to come out of the closet publicly.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 19, 2009 11:16 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I want this even more than I want a popular, active pro football player to come out of the closet publicly.

I won’t say his name, but he played for Penn State in 2002 and nearly won the Heisman.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Nov 19, 2009 11:31 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Aargh

“Popular”

Sorry.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Nov 19, 2009 11:32 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

As far as shining a light, Steve Phillips? Harold Reynolds? Sean Salisbury is full of enough venom to do it, but he’s already more than a little besmirched. Well, I guess all these guys are. I’m surely going to hell for this, but Scott Van Pelt makes me laugh.

Anyway, college football is supposed to be fun. When ESPNs pets underperform, or someone doesn’t fit nicely into their model (build them up to tear them down) – ala Kirk, who is so bland on camera he’s hard to dislike or won’t rile, it wrecks the story they’ve crafted. The best truth on the Maisel story comes from Kevin and Stoops – pageviews are what matters (oh shit, fucking OPS. He’s in cahoots with Maisel and drove another several hundred to the article through his diabolical puppet-mastery) and ESPN wants to script this reality show.

by txhawkeye on Nov 19, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Tom Shales ...

The (former?) Washington Post TV critic, is working on an ESPN history. If it’s anywhere near as good as his Saturday Night Live history, it will be excellent.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

by Blackheartnopants on Nov 19, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Whoa!

Thanks for the tip. Will keep an eye out for that fo mothaphuguing sho.

Linky

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 19, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Flaw wasn't just "popular"

But “active” as well (at least for the time being).

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Nov 19, 2009 12:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

There was a book about ESPN

with some behind the scenes stuff, certainly painted the network in a more nuanced light than the network would want (i.e. showed some of the warts, not just ESPN AWESOME!!!). Came out a few years ago, but I can’t for the life of me remember what the title was. Sorry.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Nov 19, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I am sure most of us have seen this but it is worth another look...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TLG_LtWhj4

What I can’t understand after 1:23 he still can’t let it go. Wonderful work environment.

Said, if for no other reason, to avoid making Pat Angerer angrierer.

by The Bacon Explosion on Nov 19, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

@jtothep

I want a popular, active pro football player to come out of the closet publicly…

and shower you with kisses?

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Nov 19, 2009 8:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd take a nice backrub.

Why make a trillion when we could make... billions? ~ Dr. Evil

by Leftcoast Hawk on Nov 19, 2009 10:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

One would think

a competent editor would look at this article and say something along the lines of
• “This makes no coherent sense”
• “You are arguing points that were only relevant ten years ago”
• “You somehow managed to make your own biases unclear… You’re fired”

Of course the key word in the above sentence is COMPETENT

I have occupational turrettes... My job makes me swear uncontrolably at everyone.

by Ioweegin on Nov 19, 2009 11:24 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Editors?

Aren’t you all so cute thinking that they have “journalists” at ESPN! Shit, they don’t even have jounalists at the New York Times or Washington Post anymore. They cost too much, and being all “educated” they tend to “think” and we just can’t have that. As a former jounalism student who saw the (poorly worded, and unedited) writing on the wall years ago, let me tell you that these people have studied for years to be a “T.V. Perosnality” or something equally non-sensical, but true “journalism students” are either weeded out or changed during their time in J-School. TV and newspapers just don’t want an Edward Murrow/Walter Cronkite type anymore. They are too much of a liability with the advertisers (if they do journalistic work and go after their shadey subjects they might piss off a mother or sister company- – in this day and age of SYNERGY it’s pretty easy to do- – and all of this will cut into their profit margin).
Basically this is a common diatribe for me (what I experienced in J-School left me pretty jaded about the future of jounalism, which if you notice is exactly NOWHERE- – thank you FOX), but I only mention it by way of saying that if you’re waiting for ESPN’s reporting to get better, well I hope you aren’t holding your breath.

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Nov 19, 2009 12:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

I was a Media Studies/Journo major with some notions of actually being a you know, journalist.

That said, I work for Whole Foods and am studying to be an elementary teacher.

by Bucketochicken on Nov 19, 2009 12:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't lose heart, Bucket...

in 8 years you’ll be working at DollarTree and studying to be a diesel mechanic.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Nov 19, 2009 8:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

30% off for employees?

I actually don’t know, just guessing here.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Nov 20, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Trust me

I’m very good friends with someone in the Journalism industry – and they are painfully aware of the harm that the drivel played off as “news” or “sports news” has had on the industry as a whole. Clearly you are as well. No, I’m not holding my breath for better times – they aren’t coming and I don’t expect them to. Sadly, a Cronkite-esque reporter wouldn’t fly today, not only because of the company liability issues, but because they need a “face” that they can “sell”.

I was going for irony- but am woefully inept compared with most other members of this blog and have failed in my attempt at it. I’ll go hide in my corner and be quiet now.

I have occupational turrettes... My job makes me swear uncontrolably at everyone.

by Ioweegin on Nov 19, 2009 3:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No, I thought what you said was funny...

…it just got me going on my knee-jerk rant (sorry). I didn’t mean “you” when I was saying not to hold your breath (I meant the royal we you… er, wait I think I got that backwards— anyway, I didn’t mean you)

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Nov 19, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's ok

The rage-a-hol takes us all at times! No personal offense taken.

I have occupational turrettes... My job makes me swear uncontrolably at everyone.

by Ioweegin on Nov 19, 2009 4:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

John Feinstein ...

Recently crapped out an article just like this. He used to be a talent. Once. A long time ago.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

by Blackheartnopants on Nov 19, 2009 12:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Seriously? Feinstein?

Sigh. He was one of the good ones too.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Oops Pow Surprise on Nov 19, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah ...

I thought it was worse than Maisel’s, actually.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

by Blackheartnopants on Nov 19, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

/expresses equal surprise

(not surprisington)

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 19, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not surprised.

Feinstein has been contributing pap to the backpage of Sporting News (don’t ask me why I still get it, I have no reasonable answer) for quite a while now.

by RossWB on Nov 19, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nah

He’s become the worst type of stuck-in-the-past writer out there. If it wasn’t an important power in the 60s/70s, Deford wants nothing to do with it and will spend all his time decrying what a “pretender” that program is.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Nov 19, 2009 12:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So, who's left who's good?

OPS? SMA? Chris Dufresne?

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 19, 2009 12:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This is why people are willing

to wade though blogs…of course a lot of them are shit, but a lot are refreshing and not corrupted by money.

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 19, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not yet, anyway.

The Alighty Ollar will eventually irrevocably taint the blogoshere too.

by Bucketochicken on Nov 19, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What, the writers aren't all rolling

in the ample monetary embrace provided by a BHGP pubecheck?

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Nov 19, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

+1

Forgot about the pubecheck. lolz.

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 19, 2009 1:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

There's an interesting chapter in The World is Flat (Friedman)

That discusses the Open Source software movement and its role in the Flattening. After covering the functionality of the Apache webserver development (and the negotiations between its development team and IBM after they decided they wanted in) and of the collaborative efforts involved in Linux’s ongoing development, he hops over to Microsoft’s side. Not surprisingly, they’re against it. Their defense was largely propagated around doomsday scenarios in the absence of monetary incentives to innovation. (A Chinese barber wants to make money; he doesn’t want to design software for free at night. And on the other side, paying consumers are not gonna trust the free barber with their mission-critical security issue for support).

Applied to college football writing, all I see is the converse. The money (with all the deep interwoven ties back to its sponsors described above) actually provides the disincentive for these end-writers to put out more than platform tripe. Whereas the open source community (blogistan; both writers and readers), bored with the transparent paid-for product, continues to seek out the Refresh. Spurred on by oodles of non-monetary Incentive!

"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69

by jtothep on Nov 19, 2009 1:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This blog will never be a bag of shit

Its too Iowa.

Why make a trillion when we could make... billions? ~ Dr. Evil

by Leftcoast Hawk on Nov 19, 2009 10:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but

he does have a creepy sharp mustache:

by RossWB on Nov 19, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jesus...

He looks like Joe Biden’s pornography film director alter-ego…

by Bucketochicken on Nov 19, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's a shame.

I really only know him through his Andy Rooney-esque commentaries on NPR. Maybe I just like the timbre of his voice and have been lulled into thinking he’s not a hack putz.

by Bucketochicken on Nov 19, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That's the thing

He used to be really good, and still occasionally writes a must-read column/article. But too much of his stuff nowdays is just wistful remembrances of times long gone-by and “analsys” that reflects the same. Deford’s problem is that, with age, he’s just gotten lazy and is resting on his (well-deserved) former laurels.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Nov 19, 2009 1:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, he does do quite a few commentaries on "the way things used to be."

I wonder if he sees in color, or if his entire world is sepia-toned.

Baseball player wearing long pants probably makes hum suicidal, now that I think about it…

by Bucketochicken on Nov 19, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

Just noticed my typos there. Yeesh.

by Bucketochicken on Nov 19, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What DeFord still does, though...

…is turn a damn good phrase. Even if it is overly wistful and unnecessarily sentimental.

by Abbas_Cincinnatus on Nov 19, 2009 4:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I used to like Deford.

Now he does weekly essays for NPR that are nothing but pretentious drivel. Often I have to mute it before he gets through his 3 or 4 minutes of nonsense.

by NHguy on Nov 19, 2009 9:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought about mentioning this yesterday

But it was so frustrating I thought I’d spare everyone. Thank you, OPS, for be able to unite us in our abhorrence of the Maisel’s and Fordy’s of the world, something I would certainly not have been able to do.

/O'keefe'd

by Smokin Herb Grigbsy on Nov 19, 2009 12:41 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I stopped paying attention to ESPN

When they overhyped USC as the “BEST TEAM OF THE CENTURY” 2 weeks before they played Texas…..

Greatest ESPN slap in the face ever.

by sfshilo on Nov 19, 2009 1:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I thought I did a fantastic job at burying that giant heap of shit in the dark recesses of my memory

That was easily the most unprofessional piece(s) ESPN has ever done. The egg on their face following that game was enjoyable, though.

by Twin Cities Hawk on Nov 19, 2009 1:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The irony of that was

the fact that the 2005 version of USC, the “Greatest Team Ever”, wasn’t even superior to the 2004 version of USC. But since the 2004 team actually, you know, played this thing called “defense”, the ESPN talking heads were completely unaware of that fact.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Nov 19, 2009 1:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Was that the 2004 USC team...

…that played “the Greatest Team Ever”, the 2004 Oklahoma Sooners?

by Abbas_Cincinnatus on Nov 19, 2009 5:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

though I don’t really remember ESPN being unanimous in declaring 2004 the greatest ever. They definitely did for Miami 2002 and look how that ended. Though, to be fair, I really think that Miami 2001-2002 was one of the greatest college football teams ever and probably could have beaten any of the other “greatest teams ever” of this decade. They just couldn’t beat the OSU 12 that day (11 players + 1 back judge)

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Nov 19, 2009 5:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm thats new.....
Similarly, Alabama’s Iron Bowl with Alabama is next week, not this week; like with Florida-FSU, this is a function of the season being one week longer, but teams still finishing the season with their big rivalry game. Maisel really ought to know this.

I didn’t know Alabama played itself in the IB. Mark Ingram is going to be tired playing both ways.

by Argulor on Nov 19, 2009 2:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Makes sense

considering ESPN’s hype of the SEC this year has basically been “ALABAMA FLORIDA ALABAMA FLORIDA FLORIBAMA DON’T MENTION THE REST OF THEM FLORIBAMA THERE IS NO MEDIOCRITY”

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Nov 19, 2009 2:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What you talkin' 'bout?

ESPN will occasionally mention LSU as an example of a “great defense”, just so long as they never have to mention LSU’s completely non-existent offense as an example of how “tough” the SEC is.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Nov 19, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The rest of the Essss Eeeee Seeee...

…is nothing but Speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed!!!

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Nov 19, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The preseason rankings?

This is the one line that really sets me off. (Tells you how high my tolerance is for stupidity right now)
These rankings? You’re upset that…what you thought would happen didn’t? Really? So you’re prefect season wouldn’t have to be played, you would already know what was going to happen, no upsets, no injuries, no slumps. Idiot. THIS IS WHY YOU PLAY THE GAME! Because maybe, just maybe, the teams, which you haven’t actually seen play yet, much less witnessed their growth, aren’t exactly who you think they are. This is why you’re just a talking (writing) head, because you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.
I also see why you were so angry about us not giving in and losing earlier for you. Thanks.

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Nov 19, 2009 5:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

In all fairness

I’m sure he sees a practice of 4 or 5 of the top teams in August before they play a game. Of course, all you need to see to determine a season is one practice, and I’m sure it’s always Florida, Alabama, LSU, ND, and Texas. I mean, What other teams are there?

It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's that I just don't care

by Colteyes on Nov 19, 2009 6:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He was the only motherfucker of all those who made a prediction

who did NOT pick Iowa in his top 25.

What a complete prick. He’s just pissed he knows so little about football—that’s what comes out of all this.

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 19, 2009 7:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The hate is flowing

YEEES, I can feel the hate growing with every minute….

by sfshilo on Nov 19, 2009 6:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Brilliant.

Why make a trillion when we could make... billions? ~ Dr. Evil

by Leftcoast Hawk on Nov 19, 2009 10:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Seems like . . .

You can’t be a national voice unless you bitch about everything.

You have to be OPEN to the possibilities and you never know what those might be.

SI’s Stewart Mandel seems to be the only national writer who’s cool with a title game that doesn’t include USC and the Yankees.

I like Maisel’s work, but this is horseshit. My guess he this is editor-vetted. I’m good at humoring editors.

"I always like it better when the clowns seem to try to be happy."

by MarcMorehouse on Nov 20, 2009 10:54 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

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