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Not so fast my friends!

Before we go off and hand this game over to Ohio State let's take a casual look at some numbers.

A Terrell Pryor led Ohio State offense has been pretty anemic this year. They are currently ranked 62 nationally. Okay, ours has an even worse rank of 82, and that was with Stanzi. But, if you contextualize both team's ranking in terms of the competition they've played against...well, it's a little eye opening and certainly gives one hope going into this Saturday.

So, let's take a look at some numbers....

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First, let's break down the competition into three defensive groups. We'll call it the good, the bad and the awful.  The Buckeyes have only played three teams that have what can reasonably be called "good" defensive teams. Yes, yes, this is very subjective and that is why I am laying it out. Perhaps you will see it differently.

The good defenses and their rankings are Penn State (8), Wisconsin (22), and USC (38).

The bad defenses and their rankings are Navy (42), Purdue (67), and New Mexico State, (84).

The awful are Illinois (91), Minnesota (93), Indiana (98), and Toledo (101).

The average ranking of all these defensive units is 64.4

Let's focus on how Pryor and the Ohio State offense have fared against the good guys. Pryor's line in his three games against the teams I deem good defensively, and total offensive points scored:

USC: 11-25, 177 yards, 1 interception, no TDs, and 36 yards rushing on 10 carries. Total points for offense, 13.

Wisconsin: 5-13, 87yards, 1 interception, 1 TD, and 35 yards rushing on 10 carries. Total points for offense, 10.

Penn State: 8-17, 125 yards, O interceptions, 2 TDs, 50 yards rushing on 5 carries. Total points for offense, 24.

So Pryor's average in these games is 8-20, 127 yards passing, 1 int., 1 TD and total points for offense is 16 points.

Sure, without Stanzi this may be more than enough offense for Ohio State to win the game. But let's be honest, they are not so scary offensively.

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Meanwhile Iowa's offense has been seemingly as anemic, but once you compare the competition Iowa has faced it looks a bit different.

Good: Penn State (8), Arizona (17), Wisc. (22), Mich. St. (39)

Bad: Northwestrn (46), Ark. St. (48), Michigan (89)

Awful: Iowa State (94), Indiana (98), Northern Iowa (NR)

For an average ranking of 51.2. Our offensive points average against the good guys was 19 points (with Stanzi at the helm of course).

Ohio State's total defense rank is currently 6th nationally. One could easily argue they will be a whole different level for Iowa. Sure, it's a big hill without Stanzi but, seriously, I can imagine us climbing this? Can you?

Notes:

- Vegas has listed Iowa at about a 16 point underdog.

- Ohio State's starting place kicker is out. Their back-up is 6/6 on XP's and 2/4 on FGs. His long is 37 yards.  

- Wisconsin (Wisconsin!) savaged the Ohio State defense, at Ohio State no less. Just examine the box score if you are looking for a blueprint for how to win this game. The key, of course, is no INTs for TDs and hold down their special teams, particularly their punt and kick off return. 

- Here is an awesome article that breaks down Vandeberg's play on Saturday.

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Pat Angerer: One Man Quote Machine

http://hawkcentral.press-citizen.com/article/20091110/HAWKS0104/911100318/1053

I think if you check out the PC’s latest article, the Angry One has some good bits in there. Apparently he prepares his own team by doling out chokings to his own QB….

"Conan, what is best in life?" "Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the women"

by Natty Bumppo's Murderous Gaze on Nov 10, 2009 9:11 AM CST reply actions  

i think we're going to beat these

fuckers, we owe them some payback, Klug style.

KF’s time is now, he exercised his demons @ Spartan Stadium…
I think the D comes up big & frustrates Pryor enough for a game killing pick 6.

this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.

by pfac51 on Nov 10, 2009 9:53 AM CST reply actions  

I have absolutely zero..

expectations for this game. I can see it going a hundred different ways (albeit most of them having the JVB-led Hawks lose tragically). If this season is any indicator though, adversity is the Hawks’ biggest crush, so maybe they can pull a rabbit out of the sweat vest.

/O'keefe'd

by Smokin Herb Grigbsy on Nov 10, 2009 10:18 AM CST reply actions  

Iowa will beat Ohio State

Then they will lose at home to Minnesota.

Then they will win the Rose Bowl 8-6 (TD w/ missed extra point plus safety, in case you’re wondering)

There is no doubt in my mind this will happen because this team will take the most frustrating route to success NO MATTER WHAT AH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

by fugeeu on Nov 10, 2009 10:47 AM CST reply actions  

Look at all that Silver and Garnett!!!!!

I am really intimidated by the ’Shoe home crowd now

"If Ron Zook were an ice cream flavor, it would be praline and retard"
-Garth Algar

by Tree Meister on Nov 10, 2009 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

umm. Wow.

I don’t see a lot of hope there…help us RossWB, your our only hope!

this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.

by pfac51 on Nov 10, 2009 4:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

the world is messed up, man...

… but I lol’d.

Keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city - that aint legal either, Dude.

by AcrimoniousAngerererer on Nov 10, 2009 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Interesting

I consistently got this:

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 10, 2009 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Shouldn't bowl be in parenthesis?

and filled?

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Nov 10, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Roses

Get that mind out of “THE” cloud.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Nov 10, 2009 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Quite possibly

the best youtube clip of all time.

by hdhawk on Nov 10, 2009 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I actually feel embarrassed for him...

I mean, getting caught on tv wearing an OHIO ST sweatshirt. How embarrassing for him.

by HawkeyeRecon on Nov 11, 2009 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

whatifsports.com

is showing a score of tOSU-21 IOWA-15. I’ll simulate it tonight on NCAA 2010.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Nov 10, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Do I smell a 6-4 score?

I know its not PSU, but with these offenses, who knows?

by TEXaco on Nov 10, 2009 1:55 PM CST reply actions  

It could happen

See Robbie Gould was the real culprit there. I think he missed like three field goals. Certainly two at the least. And Ohio State’s kicker is still kinda iffy.

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 10, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I've had enough of these "facts" and your "mathematics"

I’m just going to predict a 31-7 Ohio State win and weep softly into my Skoal can in the event of anything less. Like a true Buckeye.

www.wewillalwayshavetempe.com

by Sam @ WWAHT on Nov 10, 2009 3:14 PM CST reply actions  

Skoal?

Buckeye Region classing it up a bit nowadays huh? I was figuring you guys would go with something like this:

Black and Gold Blood: Cubbie Blue Heart

by MissouriHawk on Nov 10, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Please

don’t feed the trolls.

In 100 years, we'll all be dead.

by Flakbait on Nov 10, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Well,

He’s less a troll than the Hawkeye State or OPS of the SB Nation site for OSU…

Black and Gold Blood: Cubbie Blue Heart

by MissouriHawk on Nov 10, 2009 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I ask you

Would a troll post something like this?

Sam Lickliter. Never forgive. Never forget. Beat IU.

by ReadingRambler on Nov 10, 2009 8:55 PM CST up reply actions  

To think, that's just the first Buckeye

to grace us with their presence this week. The invasion has begun.

by TarHeelHawk on Nov 10, 2009 4:39 PM CST reply actions  

Blueprint?

I don’t care if Wisky sent us game footage with arrows and step by step instructions. We’re going to do what we always do, only less of it because Vandy won’t have time to learn it all.
If we want to win, we better learn how to consistently block for Wegher.

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Nov 10, 2009 5:08 PM CST reply actions  

Or

We could have Wegher jump over the line every play and get 4-5 yards a time. There’s no way to defend that right?

It's not that I'm lazy, Bob, it's just that I don't care

by Colteyes on Nov 10, 2009 6:09 PM CST up reply actions  

All I do is give nicknames,

but I just can’t resist.

Now that “Jimmy V” is at QB, I implore everyone, “Never give up!”

I check cheddar like a food inspector

by SpanishJohnny on Nov 10, 2009 6:24 PM CST reply actions  

I was thinking more along the JVB route

Since JDB was a Trojan and annoying to look at, it’s time to replace the D with a much better consonant.

/O'keefe'd

by Smokin Herb Grigbsy on Nov 10, 2009 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not sure

that those are the connotations we want to give to our QB…

by rinseandrepeat on Nov 10, 2009 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Haha, just joking around

But it would turn out kinda cool if he turned out successful and the nickname stuck in an irony sort of way.

by Sol-Train on Nov 10, 2009 11:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I was just thinking about this game today....

and if interception machine juice williams can air it out in 07 and beat the then undefeated buckeyes in columbus then anyone stands a shot. Lets do this.

by Argulor on Nov 10, 2009 7:27 PM CST reply actions  

Yes Stoops sees the light does not go into it!

Iowa can win this game. It must be turned into a defensive struggle and a field position game. If we can get this done then I firmly believe Iowa 14 the Ohio State University 10. They will be looking ahead to Michigan this can be done.

by nwyms Trebek! on Nov 11, 2009 12:06 AM CST reply actions  

If Michigan were really good

they might look ahead. Instead, M kind of sucks and OSU hasn’t lost to them since shortly after the Johnson administration (Andrew, not Lyndon B). Our best hope is that the Buckeye D listens to their fat little girlfiends instead of the coaches and the Iowa O line eats lots of spinach right before the game.

In 100 years, we'll all be dead.

by Flakbait on Nov 11, 2009 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Anger. So. Much. Anger.

“One year ago almost to the day, The Dash offered sincere thanks to Iowa for knocking 9-0 Penn State from the ranks of the unbeaten and saving America from another beatdown of an overmatched Big Ten team in the BCS National Championship Game.

This year, the thanks flow in a different direction from Iowa City. The Dash is sending balloons, kazoos and party streamers to Northwestern (4) for exposing fraudulent Iowa (5). The Wildcats spared this great nation from having to listen to more earnestly deluded Hawkeyes fans explain why their team deserved a shot at the national title, despite a string of underwhelming victories against suspect competition.

Listening to Iowa’s attempts to twist logic was like watching John Goodman try to fit into Prince’s jeans. Not pretty.

Now everyone knows the truth. Even Iowans, who are free to return to reality."

- Pat Forde

by TAMPAHAWK on Nov 11, 2009 9:25 AM CST reply actions  

Let it go, man

I spent way too much time yesterday getting worked up about that column. Then I remembered that Pat Forde is a loud-mouthed blowhard who’s a disgrace to the network that employs him.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Nov 11, 2009 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm the same way

He used to piss me off, but I just try to forget he exists for the most part. Forde’s an absolute disgrace as a sports journalist.

by MP hawkfan on Nov 11, 2009 9:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

I read it and was pissed for an instant, then realized he’s a total douche-nozzle, and that victory will be made all the sweeter when Oregon/USC gets curb-stomped by Iowa in the Rose Bowl.

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Nov 11, 2009 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Also keep in mind,

He’s a Missouri grad and as such believes high scoring/no defense teams represent the best of the country.

Black and Gold Blood: Cubbie Blue Heart

by MissouriHawk on Nov 11, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions  

It's cause

they rack up the style points. Which count double in games, right?

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Nov 11, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I had to Google Pat Forde because,

frankly, I’ve never heard from/of him. How could that be, I wonder. I guess I’m too busy issuing a hate-down on Chris Dufresne AND my all time favorite gas bag to hate, Colin “The Big Ten Sucks” Cowherd

by Zulu on Nov 12, 2009 9:11 AM CST reply actions  

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