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Thanks Alford! - All Time Hoops Rankings

[Bumped, because this is flat-out ridiculous.--OPS]

Jeff Sagarin has used one of his kooky formulas (read: math is involved) to rank all of the current Division One programs. He's looking back over 70 years to do this, and it appears that as much weight is given to the first twenty-five years as the last twenty-five. Here's the thing, the overall rankings are crap. There  is no way that Iowa belongs in the Top Ten. Not above all of those teams with more Final Fours and, oh I don't know, A CHAMPIONSHIP!

However, scroll down and things get more interesting. Look at the Top 40 rankings by decade.

Iowa checks in at #16 in the 1940s.

#8 in the 1950s.

#20 in the 1960s.

#39 in the 1970s

#8 in the 1980s.

#22 in the 1990s.

And in this decade? In Alford's decade? You can look, but I haven't found us yet.

Very few schools make the list in every decade. I didn't count, so I'll guess 12. Iowa had a history of consistency - and then Alford ruined that. Remember this the next time someone says "it's too hard to win at Iowa." Bullshit. It had been done for 60 years. It was only hard for Alford to win at Iowa.

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That's because we're a "football school."

Also, the alleged coach between Davis and Lickliter should be referred to as [NAME REDACTED].

Brunettes not fighter jets

by rockyh on Oct 5, 2009 12:48 PM CDT reply actions  

well

had pierre pierce keep his penis in his pants that team would of done wonders in my opinion….speaking of penis…i’m glad j.r. angle is gone…he’s guaranteed a spot in the hills have eyes movie…thats some in-breeding…bama hawk probably sees alot of that

i don't wife em...i one night em

by smokinthereiff on Oct 5, 2009 12:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Fuck that

In addition to being an awful human being, Peirce was one of the most overrated players in Iowa history. He was an inefficient, ballhogging, turnover machine. They were better without him.

by NorseHawk on Oct 5, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

His penis wasn’t the problem. His ego was the problem, whether he had a basketball or dick in his hands.

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Oct 5, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

your smokin the cawk

he could create and breakdown a d with his penetration…actually come to think of it…on and off the court…..was he a piece of shit as a person i think theres no doubt…but were we better without him…ummmmm…hell no…look at r record at the time he got released the second time….Iowa was one of the better if not best teams in the big ten…Alford was a douche…pierre was a rapiest…but he could ball and that team was damn good…

i don't wife em...i one night em

by smokinthereiff on Oct 5, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've nothing to contribute to the basketball discussion.

But I cannot continue to read your comments if you don’t learn how to type. Use a fucking period, guy. There’s no reason for an ellipsis to appear between everything you say.

by The Mexican't on Oct 5, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Careful.

If you look at an ellipsis too long, you can hurt your eyes!!

Hawks....yup, I like 'em

by Rozhawkfan on Oct 5, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Personally, I love...

ellipsiseses…and I have no clue how they are actually supposed to be used. I honestly don’t care though either. I like how I use them. I am also a huge fan of these () (although I don’t really know how to use them either). If this disturbs you fellas about me too, I’m sorry in advance. I got solid grade in college English and Journalism classes, and I’ll be the first to admit an editor could pick my shit apart. I don’t expect people to type perfectly on here.

The only thing that ticks me off is when people post things unrelated to Iowa, or treat it like their personal Facebook page and add posts nobody cares about but them. For example: “Here are my parlay picks for the week, please vote on if I will win or not.” (Who cares?!?)

Why not Iowa????

by CUNKNNK on Oct 5, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

very true

i’m sorry. i’m a degenerate and needed some help/opinions to get off the snid. i thought i had some valid points and all anyone did was rip me. i don’t claim to be smart but i’m a great fan never fair weather like alot of people i meet in az. so thanks for showing me your true colors and belittling and judging people. go hawks

i don't wife em...i one night em

by smokinthereiff on Oct 5, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not opposed to you being here

or even posting until you’re blue in the face. You’ve just as much right to be here as anyone else. However, when the only impression you can make on the others here is with your posts, I would imagine you’d like to at least type like a sane person. You knew enough to separate your thoughts with punctuation, why not make it the correct punctuation?

I had no problem with what you were saying, just the way it looked.

by The Mexican't on Oct 5, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

The point of the written word

is to communicate ideas. In order to communicate ideas, we must have a common, agreed-upon language and syntax. The more care you take when writing, the better your ideas will be conveyed to others.

Your ideas and opinions are as valid and valued as much as anyone’s on this site, but it is a headache trying to dig them out from the depths of lazy writing.

Brunettes not fighter jets

by rockyh on Oct 6, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

wow

just the facts man, just the facts

i don't wife em...i one night em

by smokinthereiff on Oct 5, 2009 1:46 PM CDT reply actions  

What is going on?

This is the 2nd board I have been on, where usually the people on it are laid back, that English has been a thorn in someone’s side. I don’t get it. We are not in school, I don’t think we are getting graded on our posts. Are Hawk fans that uptight right now with the close win and the upcoming game with Michigan?

Relax…..it is just a message board. I could understand if you weren’t able to follow the thoughts because of the spelling but elipses gets your “nose out of joint”? This is the IOWA board not jNW. We don’t need to learnt english good to show how much gooder we are than them.

TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin

by SpoWAHawk on Oct 6, 2009 9:20 AM CDT reply actions  

Well that's because

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 6, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

So you're telling me that since he made the change

his posts haven’t been significantly easier to read?

I wasn’t attempting to correct his grammar, but I see no reason for anyone to use three periods instead of one between each thought. This has nothing to do with making him learn proper grammar and everything to do with making his posts/comments worth reading. No one is going to try to read a post or comment that looks like it was typed by a 3 year old.

by The Mexican't on Oct 6, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lapses in grammar are one thing

His posts were essentially unreadable. Giving that reading them is the only way to take them in, that’s a problem.

by NorseHawk on Oct 6, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed. I've effectively left Hawk's Nest for the same reason.

BHGP was a revelation: Funny, informative, and the commenters treated it like a civil exchange of ideas, not an “LOL, KOK SUX” message board. Not only has it become damn near a one-stop shop for Hawk info, but it makes me spit up my coffee on occasion. I’m here as much for the authors/posters as much as commenters (Bellanca and StoopsMyAss as an example).

But if I have to wade through fifteen nonsensical fanposts/comments, half of which belong on the HNO’s Off Topic board, well, then BHGP begins to jump the shark. And I don’t want that.

Help me Oops Pow Surprise. You’re my only hope.

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Oct 6, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Back to Pierce

He turned the ball over a lot, he took ill-advised shots, and couldn’t hit free throws for crap. He gave the team another dimension that it hasn’t had since, but all in all I’m not sure how much he helped.

by Angle's Dangle on Oct 6, 2009 10:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah

I mean, it was nice to have a guy who could penetrate and create his own shot when nothing else was working, but he hurt the team in so many other ways that I just don’t think he was a net positive. Even when other stuff WAS there he would often decided to go 1 on 3 for no reason and throw up an awful, off balance shot, or dribble off his own foot, or whatever. And of course, if you’re going to try to penetrate and create contact, it’d be nice if you could actually hit your free throws (and if you got the girl’s permission first, HEEEEY-OOOOO!)

by NorseHawk on Oct 6, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha ha, true true

i don't wife em...i one night em

by smokinthereiff on Oct 6, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

NO, that was Peterson (not the girl stuff)

Peterson would, atleast 6 times a game, go 1-on-3 and throw up a shit-shot in the hopes of getting a foul called (this was after dribbling at the top of the key for 90% of the shot clock).

PP didn’t really do that. He was a hell of an athelete that could score on almost anyone at almost any time (if he decided to).

Hawks....yup, I like 'em

by Rozhawkfan on Oct 7, 2009 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was both of them

Pierce may have been better at it, but he still made awful decision and gave the ball to the other team way too often. But because he shot a ton and put up decent point totals, people just pretended that the bad stuff didn’t happen.

by NorseHawk on Oct 7, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

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