This Is Getting Fairly Ridiculous: Iowa Wins, 42-24
by Adam Jacobi on Oct 31, 2009 3:22 PM CDT
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PrintSo, um, yeah. Just your run of the mill 18-point win against the dregs of the conference? Right? RIGHT?
Or not. Aside from a quick-strike touchdown drive in the fourth quarter and one of the most insane pick-sixes you'll ever see, Iowa absolutely sleep-walked through the first three quarters--and Ricky Stanzi's four 3rd quarter interceptions had us all wondering if maybe James Vandenberg was a better option for the fourth quarter.
Yeah, no. All that dominance exercised by Indiana in the first three quarters in building a 24-14 lead quickly evaporated; Stanzi went off in the fourth, giving Iowa the lead on two first-play touchdowns, then sealing the game with multiple first downs on the ground as Iowa put the game away.
We'll talk about the calls in greater detail later, but of the three, two were correct calls on good plays (and were rendered moot immediately afterward anyway), and the last was a horrible overturn of a touchdown. Indiana reacted equally horribly to the call and let Iowa right back in the game for the 4th quarter curb-stomping that ensued.
Suffice it to say, there were a lot of people around the country watching and hoping Iowa would lose. That's understandable. So what does Iowa do? Get their hopes up, then malevolently crush those hopes. Hey, better the fans of other teams than us, right? Go ahead and hate the Big Ten, people. See where it gets you.
Anyway, all mere details of the one central fact: 9-0. We may as well savor the insanity.
Open thread for the rest of the day here.
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I am on pain meds
and Penecillin (sp?). I screamed through pain most of this game. And ya know what? It was ALL worth it.
Just ridiculous
I was upset, i was frustrated, i was thisclose to giving up all hope. I questioned play calling, questioned Stanzi, and questioned the team.
All for them to prove me wrong, yet again.
I will be in the stands in Columbus in two weeks. Whatever happens, happens. But 2009 has been a fantastic ride.
'They are who we thought they were!'
Jeckle/Hyde.
That’s all I can say. I was cursing Stanzi out horribly, and he’s just the Teflon Manzi.
Unreal.
Let’s hope for Oregon stomping on USC so Jessie Palmer has an aneurysm on air.
Just win, baby. Everyone else can suck it.
I like turtles.
HE was out of bounds...
On the second review, ESPN continued to show every replay they could except for the one that mattered. The Indiana WR’s foot was like an inch off of the ground, and he landed on his knee out of bounds. Yet on every other replay you could see some sort of dirt or something coming off of the turf and it appeared that he was dragging his foot.
Now I don’t know if that was something that should have been overturned, but he he def landed out of bounds.
If flecks are coming off the field...
…that means his foot is on the ground. It can’t happen any other way. You could see the discoloration.
Oh well, it’s a moot point.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
"flecks"
Now I have “God Loves a Terrier” stuck in my head.
by Bucketochicken on Oct 31, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Even I felt bad for Indiana on that call
there was a 15 inch scuff mark on the black turf where his foot dragged (drug?).
by HawkeyeRecon on Oct 31, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm just grateful to be drinking in joy tonight instead in pain.
When did Stanzi figure out that he couldn’t wing it into the wind without the ball flight being affected? He didn’t. (Or was KOK at faulty there? Stanzi did have other options, right?
Another week of making excuses for the Hawkeyes to my hater friends? Nope. I’m gonna hate right along with them. I never gave up hope, but that was effing ugly, and I’ll bend over any way the poll voter suggest this week.
Let’s just hope that the ESPN and Sportscenter highlights show more good than bad. It all rests on the recap.
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Oct 31, 2009 3:42 PM CDT reply actions
And on the first TD pass - the one in the back of the endzone,
the receiver did not have possession. It was very close, but as he stepped out, he was still in the act of puliing the ball in and securing it. The ball is in is arms, but he’s not holding it – it’s still moving.
The second call I thought was pretty suspect – especially since it appears you can see the mark left on the turf by his dragged foot.
The helmet-to-helmet was correct, as was the DJK incomplete.
And the spot call review was DEFINITELY correct. When the RB went down, the ball was at his waist – a foot or so short. AFTER his knees hit, the RB moved the ball forward to the place that Bob “Footbaow Jibbering Retarded Goobermonkey” Davie kept telestrating. Fucking jackass.
Yep
You can see the ball with space between both his hands and his body. Really close play, but incomplete was the right call.
Also, they scored on the next snap, so whatever.
The helmet-to-helmet was a judgment call and more an issue of a terribly-worded rule. I hate that call no matter who gets the 15 yards, but I can see why it gets called.
And there was zero evidence to overturn the spot, no matter how much spittle flies from Lynch’s mouth. And once again, it was quickly rendered irrelevant when Ballard jumped.
Anyone who bitches about the officials didn’t pay very close attention to the game. Indiana lost the game; the refs didn’t do it for them.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
Agreed
The helmet to helmet – On the last replay they showed, the defenders helmet clearly hit DJK’s (? Can’t remember the Iowa WR now) helmet. He made have led with his shoulder, but his helmet hit our WR’s helmet. That’s a penatly.
As for the spot review – Depsite Davie’s ranting, when the RB’s knee hit the ground, he was holding the ball at his stomach. He didn’t reach out and extend until after his knee was down.
'They are who we thought they were!'
Bob "Adam" Davie was a mess today.
The only good point he made was when he pointed out that the side judge had a better view than anyone of the overturned IU touchdown — that was true and a fine observation.
Everything else was just a mishmash of bad jokes, stupid observations, and mangled names.
In BHGP's game recap, everyone should be called "Adam ----."
by Bucketochicken on Oct 31, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I was happy before the game we had Bob Davie instead of Pam...
I remembered him as being good/fair. He was pretty much sloppy and kind of a pile though when it came to announcing. He can take his pale face into traffic.
by HawkeyeRecon on Oct 31, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
The mootness
That’s what always gets me about foamy-mouthed ref bitching by fans. Dudes, you scored on THE NEXT PLAY!!
And I agree OPS – the H2H thing seems to be really misundrestood by most, and the fact that it is such a judgment call makes it even worse.
by Bucketochicken on Oct 31, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
At least they didn't wait until a minute after the play to throw the flag this week.
That really would have got the Indiana fans foaming at the mouth.
You know, all eleven of them.
Yes. but
The overturned TD (that probably shouldn’t have been) turned out to be the turning point of the game. If that TD had stood, Iowa probably doesn’t have the inner fortitude to come back. It was the call that didn’t break our backs. It was close, it was the quintessential call that shouldn’t be overturned, whichever way it was originally called. We got VERY lucky there, but that’s football. It feels a little dirty, but I’m strangely comfortable with it. But that may be because I’m currently wearing a dress and garters. Got to love Halloween.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
And what RoosWB said
because he said it before i did. And probably much more soberly
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I disagree a little.
That happened when the score was 21-14; a TD there would have made it 28-14, which was bad, but not completely improbable to make up with the wind at our back in the 4th quarter.
The far more back-breaking play would have been the touchdown (or, at the very least, FG) they were driving for on the series that ended with Sash’s pinball pick six — going down three scores would have been a killer, most likely.
I think...
that the “bad-call turned into no points” was a huge momentum swing for us fans. However, the Sash pick was the inspiration that led to this victory.
Then again, I just looked, and I think that all happened within 3 or 4 minutes of each other, so maybe it can all be rolled up into one awesome swing for the Hawkeyes. Except SDStanzi threw two more picks later that quarter.
That’s it. I’m done analyzing this crazy-ass game. The Hawks won and that’s all that matters.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Nov 1, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
I really don't buy that
This team doesn’t give a fuck about being behind, and receivers were getting behind IU’s secondary at will in the second half. Once Stanzi didn’t have the wind knocking down his passes, I think we still would have come back.
Agreed with all of that.
I thought the refs on the field had a pretty lousy day. The refs in the replay booth got everything right except probably the overturned IU touchdown. And, frankly, that was one of those plays that was so close that I was just stunned they found enough evidence to overturn it — it really looked like one of those plays where whatever it was called on the field would stand because there was so little evidence to overturn it.
That all said… I hope that play doesn’t overshadow the complete defensive capitulation by Indiana in the fourth quarter. What did they give up in that quarter – 28 points and almost 300 yards of offense? They can’t whine to the refs about that.
Wow.....
That all said… I hope that play doesn’t overshadow the complete defensive capitulation by Indiana in the fourth quarter. What did they give up in that quarter – 28 points and almost 300 yards of offense? They can’t whine to the refs about that.
Everyone with a passing interest in this game should read that. Its really the truest point of the game.
for some people it will
I’ve already had an argument with an IU fan who said the games was fixed by the Big Ten. No answer for why Iowa lost a challenge or why there was a minimal difference in penalties if the game was fixed.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Oct 31, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Just tell that IU fan...
that the IU losses to jNW, and Michigan were also fixed by the Big Ten. Also, their 47-7 loss to a pretty crappy Virginia team was also fixed, but I’m not sure by who.
In a related note, IU is who Denny Green thought they were.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 31, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not a bad rule
Just don’t hit guys above the shoulders. It’s not that hard. Preventing concussions is a good thing.
I was thinking about that while watching Amari tackle in the fourth quarter.
He does a hell of a job of going low to make tackles.
Agreed. I think it's a very good and necessary rule;
I just think it’s widely misunderstood (especially when it’s called against your team). It jsut reinforces the “they don’t even let ’em play football anymore” type of thinking. But then the same complaints probably sprang up when the no head-slapping and no spearing rules were made/enforced.
by Bucketochicken on Oct 31, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
People who make the "huuuuurrrr put dresses on them" arguements are the worst
Oh no, players are not suffering enough brain damage for my entertainment value!
It is an argument that can be made...
when dudes are making anywhere from $400k to 9 million a year. But at the college level, minimally protecting peoples’ heads is something that just needs to be done.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 31, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
On a day when the Stanziballs were like snowflakes in a blizzard
We come out on top, what a 4th quarter, I still have goosebumps thinking about Tyler “Motherfucking” Sash’s pick 6, never seen anything like it. This game easily took a year of my life away.
I was screaming for Stanzi to be benched, I think the wind did have alot to do with it, but playcalling is as well.
I told a friend to take IND +17.5, yeah, we covered by half a point.
9-0 Fucking A
Yes
4th quarter Stanzi = god amongst men. But you kinda half to be worried about how little faith the coaching staff has in Vandenberg/Weinke that even after 5 picks, there was not question of benching Stanzi.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Possibly.
Shades of last year’s Pitt game perhaps? KF is gonna go down in flames with his guy if that’s what it takes; thank god this game had a happier ending.
Plus, I don’t think you can totally overlook the immense amount of confidence and respect that his teammates have for Stanzi — all the mid-week and post-game interview clips this year really make it clear how much they love that crazy bastard, no matter how many picks he throws.
And, shit, he does already have five fourth quarter comeback wins in his Iowa career, which may be more than the rest of the QBs in the KF era had combined. So he’s doing something right in crunchtime.
I won’t lie — I had a few visions of Vandenberg dancing through my head after the third or fourth pick in the third quarter. I guess this is where I’m glad I’m just the idiot fan cheering things on from afar and they’re the guys paid to make those decisions or entrusted to make shit happen on the field.
Schadenfreude...
denied.
They should worry more about the egg they’re laying in College Station right now.
Never thought to have Stanzi replaced
you don’t take a guy who has led one comeback after another out of a game that has over a quarter of football left. The wind was a bitch, and he had two of those bombs just fall out of the sky. The other was our receiver running into the ref. The other three were bad. But, he is by far our only chance offensively. And frankly, those guys on the field, DJK and Co. believe in this guy.
But, after last year’s heartbreaks…I apologize to no one.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
Stazi is... well, he's like no other player I've ever seen.
I’ve never seen someone able to look so bad at times and seconds later look so good.
His ability to flush the horrible, horrible throws he makes is astounding.
I said the same thing last week....
And I just argued with my friend (post-humorously so of couse I won but still) about whether they should have benched stanzi or not. I was at the game and felt that the third quarter went on forever. I knew the wind would give us the advantage in the 4th but thought we would need to be at least 7 down in order to win that game. In the end our arguement went like this “Brandenburg does not lead you back from 10 down to win.” He may not have thrown any interceptions in replacement of stanzi but he doesn’t win us that game. In the end all Stanzi does is win. And we can be thankful for that.
It's ok
the guy beside me called him Stanley all game. Seriously they should make people take a football competency test before they sell season tickets.
by shada's revenge on Oct 31, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Let me begin by saying
that I absolutely loved Drew Tate, and thought he was the best pure QB we’ve had at Iowa since Chuck Long. But Stanzi’s ability to not let ANYTHING (read: 5 INTs) fuck with his head is truly inspiring. At no point are we ever out of it because Stanzi has lost his mind, he’s always one pass away from greatness, regardless of what happened the pass attempt before. And you can tell the team feeds of this fact, there’s never a point where they think “game over, let’s just pack it in and regroup next week.” It will cause me eleventy heart-attacks this year, but in Stanzi I must ultimately trust.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I never even thought about Stanzi coming out.
To me, he’s the guy. Live by the guy, die by the guy.
The interceptions though were ri-fucking-diculous though. Thank goodness he shakes off bad plays like snowflakes.
That kind of sloppy play will not suffice against a top 10 team though.
by HawkeyeRecon on Oct 31, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
That's exactly what I thought
Live by the sword, die by the sword. Never considered taking him out. Today we live; like last Saturday and last Saturday and last Saturday…
All of his picks were into the wind, at least on the deep balls
I was never down on him either. He is my guy at qb period. I have season tickets in the north end zone. On every one of them our receiver had a step. I would go crazy and then watch the ball hang and float. Then yell “fuck”, drawing the ire of the elderly people and parents of small children around me. What I couldn’t figure out was why Stanzi didn’t figure out that he couldn’t throw the deep ball into the wind.
by shada's revenge on Oct 31, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
One more thing...these teams at the top are going to shake out.
Only Florida or Alabama will be left standing. USC might be history tonight. Cinncy plays Pitt yet. There is a LOT of football yet. And now, the entire country will expect us to lose to Ohio State. And we might, but…until someone can beat this team….
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
Maybe...
the CBS guys are doing that because they can’t make fun of SEC refs, who deserve way worse ridicule.
If you can’t beat ’em, malign ’em?
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 31, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Sweet irony
My Halloween costume tonight was “SEC referee”. Basically, normal ref, plus a sticker that said “I Heart Tebow” and a bunch of (fake) Cnotes coming out of my pocket. Shockingly, everyone knew exactly what I was referring to.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Wonderful.
I hope it also got you laid.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Nov 1, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
But not by Tebow.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Nov 1, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
No shit.
That was about the worst thing I heard in the entire broadcast.
Davies was praying IU would keep it together.
I was waiting for him to say, holy shit….what the fuck was I thinking…IU sucks ass.
NaptownHawk
Wait... Jesse Palmer has nice things to say about Iowa on the ABC halftime show?
Wha-?
This doesn’t fit my preconceived notions! Damn you, Bachelor!
I have watched the replay like 50 times and I still don't think his foot touched down in the EZ
I still see a shadow there between his foot and the EZ, with the knee landing first out of bounds.
Perhaps my best years are gone. When there was a chance of happiness. But I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
But hey
they could have made the FG there…they didn’t help themselves there at all.
I’ll say this all week….We should apologize to no one. Last year we had our hearts ripped out on four occasions. All but one was on Stanzi too…well, he has risen from the dead.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
I'm with ya
I fully agree. But I won’t make that big of deal about it. Did they score right after that one? Or was that the earlier replay?
Indiana missed chip shot FG
after that call. So, they went from 7 to 3 to zip. The play that saved the whole day was Sash. They were looking at 28-7 and it might have been a knock out. Everything after that was doable.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
Yep.
after those two or three plays, I texted my friend:
“Huge swing there.”
Of course, I had no real idea that we would be coming back like we did.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 31, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Just sayin:
Between the mark left on the field and this:
I think IU might have a case.
Oh well, doesn’t matter.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
Man, that is some Zapruder film shit.
You can’t really tell if his foot is down or not
Florida got theirs
we got ours. It was a bad call and that it was a reversal….baffling.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
Isn't there a space?
Iowa Basketball: We don't rebuild, we implode.
by three and out the kok story on Oct 31, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
If you can't tell, then you can't reverse the TD call
I think is the point.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
agreed
I am playing the mental justification game.
Also, given the little thing called gravity I am sure it hit before his hip.
Iowa Basketball: We don't rebuild, we implode.
by three and out the kok story on Oct 31, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we might win if they score there
as I recall, that take them up 14. So, if we are within two scores we are in the game. The Sash play is huge, it kept us from three scores down…
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
I think that play was overturned
Because he re-clutched twice after hitting the ground.
That is my only explanation.
…give me the courage and the ability to so conduct myself in every situation that my country, my family, and my friends will be proud of me.
-Nile Kinnick
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Oct 31, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Shouldn't have been overturned
No way there was “indisputable” video evidence it WAS NOT a TD. Would be the same if they had ruled he had been out of bounds. We got VERY lucky there; shouldn’t have been overturned regardless of the way it was ruled on the field.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Why in the hell
did they stop running the play action roll out? Although the first drive of the second half ended in an INT, they were moving the ball in chunks and if I remember they were all roll outs. Then it inexplicably stops, until the 4 th quarter, when low and behold it goes for one TD and maybe a second (can’t remember for sure on the play to DJK, but I thought it was).
Iowa Basketball: We don't rebuild, we implode.
by three and out the kok story on Oct 31, 2009 4:40 PM CDT reply actions
NO...DJK was traditional play action
no roll out.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
And boy did he make their secondary look bad.
The referee had the best chance of tackling him at the end of that play.
I think the wind was the culprit here
with no wind in second half Stanzi has two INTs that are actually TDs. It was a weird game. Reminded me of Sanchez game this year with Jets v. Buffalo. You just move on.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
That's a huge part of it
That DJK post where he had to slow down and wait for the ball was especially bad. In a dome that is an easy, easy six.
That said, doesn’t someone have to tell Stanzi to cut that shit out?
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
Also
One at least one of the picks, DJK’s effort left a lot to be desired. Its still on Stanzi, but at some point the WR has to turn into a db
Iowa Basketball: We don't rebuild, we implode.
by three and out the kok story on Oct 31, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I saw that too, but I don't thhink there was much he could do except chase.
After he’d already given the “again? Are you fucking kidding me?!” gesture.
by Bucketochicken on Oct 31, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Tough to say
yes, Stanzi needs to cut that shit out. But on both deep post-routes to DJK, DJK was ridiculously wide open. Stanzi made the right decision, both times, to go to him deep. Unfortunately, both were horrendously bad throws that allowed the DB to make the pick. Either one should, if thrown properly (i.e. taking the wind into account, not thrown like a retard) should have resulted in a TD.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I was pretty depressed when Stanzi...
was throwing it away. First, I had to confirm with about 3 sources that he had indeed racked up 5 picks, even though I am sitting at Kinnick and should have known it.
But, the guy behind me, who I always talk to, keeps saying “I think its the wind.” And then, at the beginning of the 4th, he said “Now, we have that crazy wind.” And sure enough, Stanzi starts bombing away better than the US Air Force.
I haven’t exactly been calling for Stanzi’s job, and I’ve never felt really comfortable with him as our de facto “only” QB. But, he has proven himself in the 4th too many times now for me not to suspect that the other players (and certainly the coaches) really do believe in him and him only. So, let the good times roll with SDS.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Nov 1, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
Oh it was definitely the wind
Somewhat proven also by Chappell looking like an all-pro in the 3rd quarter to looking like someone who had never played the game before in his life in the 4th with the wind change. That Prater pick was the proof of how bad the wind was, it hung up for what seemed like days and was so far away from teh receiver that I was sure the flag that came in was a late pass interference call (i.e. Iowa had knocked down a receiver). Obviously, it wasn’t and that play illustrated just how badly the wind could affect a pall that wasn’t thrown perfectly.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Keep Stanzi out
in the 1st half. Just have him come in for the 3rd and 4th quarters.
The cardiac ward at U of I hospital has to be packed this time of year.
"I am so proud to be your coach." -Paul Rhoads
Well, I was alternately watching and hiding my eyes from the horror the entire 2nd half. Should that play have been overturned? I don’t know. The bottom line is:
1) the Manzi threw 5 interceptions
2) we lost a fumble on our 10 yard line
3) Murray shanked a makeable FG
4) IU got screwed by one call (I think) and
5) then MISSED the FG after.
The spot is irrelevant; they got the first down next play (and if anything, I think they were generous on the spot, but again, it doesn’t matter. The got the first, punted w/ 45 seconds left in the half, we fumbled, they scored a TD). The bobble on the other TD was the right call; he didn’t secure.
However, somehow, someway, we won by 18. Not 2 or 3, 18. This was not a red letter day by the refs, but all Indiana had to do was not let us score 94 and 60+ yard touchdowns. And we turned the ball over SIX times. Brutal. 9-0.
hooooooly shit, I just saw a decent angle of the Sash INT for the first time
That is fucking hilarious.
Does anyone else feel weird....
that that play was technically called an INT? It just seemed so much more like a fumble.
In real time
I was elated then sad, because I thought it came out of his hand on a forward pass, hit the field, and bounced into Sash’s hands — which would call the whole thing back, of course. When it stood, I was dumbfounded but happy. And then when I saw the replay that revealed that the ball never hit the ground and that it was a pick six… wow. Stunning.
All you had to see...
was Sash running like the wind the other way with the ball…
to know it was a pick.
Right after that, my friend texted to me: “VULTURE!”
And I texted back “Super-Vulture!”
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 31, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Love that picture
So did all the guys at what I dub the BHGP bar in Waverly (they sound like this board) – The Wooden Foot.
…give me the courage and the ability to so conduct myself in every situation that my country, my family, and my friends will be proud of me.
-Nile Kinnick
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Oct 31, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Que?
…give me the courage and the ability to so conduct myself in every situation that my country, my family, and my friends will be proud of me.
-Nile Kinnick
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Oct 31, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah.
The Wartburg connection.
It makes sense now!
…give me the courage and the ability to so conduct myself in every situation that my country, my family, and my friends will be proud of me.
-Nile Kinnick
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Oct 31, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Way to represent, NorseHawk!
Only, don’t let anyone in on the wonderfully quaint appallingly embarrassing lyrics to the Luther fight song. I don’t think we could ever live that down.
BTW, Wartburg was totally jacking up Luther last I heard on the radio.
If it's not too much trouble, search your soul--and then ask yourself if maybe I might have a point.
by The Director on Oct 31, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I turned it off
We kinda suck.
And yes, the fight song is embarrassing. I never learned the words, and don’t plan to. Let us never speak of it again.
Pri, Sec, Ter, Qua motherfuckers.
I ran the Luther pep band for two years as a student (I know I know, we suck, but it’s mostly for fun and the serious musicians won’t do it), and I’ve decided that although the lyrics are indeed quaint and a couple lines are somewhat embarrassing, this is made up for by two facts:
1. It was written by a Luther student while fighting in WWI.
2. You get to yell shit in Latin. (Nevermind that it’s just “1, 2, 3, 4.”)
by Third Generation Hawk on Oct 31, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe that, technically, "shit" in latin...
….is something like “scatos” or something like that, and I don’t remember that being in the Luther fight song. To be truthful, you only get to count to four in latin, which is not quite as cool.
Also, don’t forget the “oomla boomla we yell Luther sis bam bah rah!” close to that stanza. If that won’t make you put a blue and white bag over your head in public before you sing it, I don’t know what will.
I do love the WW1 connection, though—I admit I’d forgotten that.
Luther’s great contribution to the world: Oneota Room egg-cheeseburgers with fries. People think I’m crazy, but an egg-cheeseburger with fresh fries (yes, the fires are ON the burger!), mustard, and ketchup, is damn close to heaven on a bun.
If it's not too much trouble, search your soul--and then ask yourself if maybe I might have a point.
by The Director on Oct 31, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
This is not never speaking of it again, you assholes
Now people know about our dumb song.
Dammit, we are a fucking music school we should come up with something better than “omla boomla we yell Luther”
I was
wrongfully arrested in Waverly. From Cresco. fuck Decorah! GO CADETS lol.
BALLS OF STEEL RICKY! BALLS OF STEEL!!!!!!
Best part of today
Was seeing Wegher actually make it to the LOS without getting hit first. I think A-Rob sees the holes better, but Wegher played well enough. The line still needs to gel with Dace out, but if they continue to adjust, and Wegher keeps growing, I think the ground game will be alright.
He still did get tackled two or three times...
behind the line.
However, he also ended with 118 yds and 3 TDs.
I will blame the O-Line until they even make Paki look good, or until we stop letting crappy lower-tier Big Ten teams strafe our QB and RB 2 or 5 yards behind the line.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 31, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Here is a new one
Reese Davis says a one loss LSU deserves the National Championship game before Iowa. Really?
I am now officially enjoying watching so called analysts suggest that Iowa is undeserving because of how they have won games. Imagine, we have not lost since mikdseason of last year, and yet we are not deserving. I hate the WWL.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
Yeah, that came out of left field.
LSU?!
in (semi) defense of the WWL, Mark May still likes us and, inexplicably, I heard Jesse Palmer giving us huge props for our resiliency and toughness during ABC’s halftime show. So they seem a bit schizophrenic about us.
I'm just saying...
that LSU still has to play at Bama, at Ole Miss, and at home against Arkansas yet. As well as at home to La Tech. They have a legit shot to lose two or three of those. And if they don’t beat Bama, they probably won’t make the SEC title game, so they probably would not jump into the national title game.
So f*** you, Rece Davis.
Also, Argulor, LSU won against Mississippi State 30 to 26.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 31, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
at this point, ESPN is going out of their way to denigrate and diminish everything we do. Granted, we looked anything but a top 10 team for 3 quarters today, but we still won. Yet, ESPN will find 1000000 ways to explain away USC’s most recent loss. It has just become ridiculous, not even the barest nod towards journalistic integrity and honesty.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I think it is sad...
when business marketing has taken over ESPN. What made them great for years was that they were the wild idea in the 70s and 80s (an all sports network? Get outta here) that turned into the WorldWideLeader (roughly 1990 to 2000).
Now, they see everything as a business decision. So, when you can polish the knob of USC for an LA market that has 30,000,000 prospective fans, it is a no-brainer that you must do it. However, when you have honest coverage of an Iowa team that gets in the way of that, and you can only please 3 or 4 million prospective fans (and that is probably a high estimate) then you make the money decision and give the love to USC.
I hate to give it too much credit, but one thing that can soothe our anger about this problem is the formation and proliferation of conference-based TV networks. Of course, this will only ensure fair coverage of the teams in your region being delivered to you, and the people across the country might never hear of your team again.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Nov 1, 2009 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
I haven't been back
to Iowa City in, maybe, twenty years (though I did see the Hawks AT Madison two years ago) and told a college buddy that if Iowa beats Indiana I’d fly back for the jNWU game. He called, “You still coming.” “You bet.” See you Friday.
Welcome...
back, Mr. Kotttttttttter…er, I mean, Mr. Zulu.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 31, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Our SOS needs
Arizona and Iowa State to keep winning the rest of the way. It won’t be hurt by these Big Ten losses. Everyone plays each other at some point.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
Someone let Iowa State know that.
I mean, it’s not like they have the first bowl game in, what, five years is on the line or anything…
Yeah
I think if Cyclone fans had their way they might choose hurting Iowa over a bowl game.
…give me the courage and the ability to so conduct myself in every situation that my country, my family, and my friends will be proud of me.
-Nile Kinnick
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Oct 31, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
What? No Way.
Us having a winning record this year to help boost your S.O.S. is our way of saying “Sorry” about 2002. Our bad.
"I am so proud to be your coach." -Paul Rhoads
Oh I don't mind you winning
I don’t follow IState that much. I definitely don’t want you go go winless EVERY year.
…give me the courage and the ability to so conduct myself in every situation that my country, my family, and my friends will be proud of me.
-Nile Kinnick
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Oct 31, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
ISU...
must be absolutely banking on a win versus Colorado at Trice. I hate to say it, but they probably should not.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Nov 1, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions
The schadenfreude value is off the charts.
"Do not cheat your team or your teammates. Know your plays. Block. Protect. Add to what we are trying to do."
The Only Colors
Depends how many 6-6 teams there are.
And, crucially, how many 7-5 teams there are around the country. All those teams get priority over the left-over 6-6 teams.
I thought RichRod had the freshman football jesus? How do they get bitch slapped by an Illini team that has 1 Div 1A win this year? Oh I guess they’re 1-4 in the Big XI. Maybe this is harder than he thought.
Forcier is pretty banged up
But, yeah, lol. I still think they’re going to be scary good in another year or two.
They're really really young
The fast start they got out to was a bit misleading, they’re really probably a bit ahead of schedule. This isn’t unexpected, or a sign that RichRod is a bad coach.
I see that Forcier had three fumbles and lost two.
Injury? Still having trouble dealing with midwest weather? Just bad luck?
I dunno — it’s interesting to see, though. His play has gone down the shitter in October.
If the Big Ten...
gets two into the BCS, then I can not imagine how a 6-6 Michigan squad would get shut out of a bowl. Now, if B11 only gets one team into the BCS, then B11 still has a total of at least 7 bowl slots. So, can Michigan finish ahead of Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, and one more team? Or just three of those if we have 2 in the BCS?
Michigan has Purdue, @Wisconsin, and OSU left. I’d say they should win against PU or Wisky (or both), and thus get a 6th (or 7th) win and make a bowl.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Nov 1, 2009 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions
After yesterday,
what in the world makes you think Michigan can beat Wisconsin? They may be able to beat Purdue, but I wouldn’t write it in ink. Forcier is falling apart and, as has been the case all year, as Forcier goes so goes Michigan’s offense. Blue is in trouble, and most fans saw it coming before they got Zook’d.
by The Mexican't on Nov 1, 2009 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
Aww, it's like the circle of life.
Zook loses his job at Florida because he gets CROOM’D and now he’s become the CROOM of the Big Ten (for this year, anyway). Although I suppose in this case it probably won’t cost RichRod his job.
I dare the BCS to hae an undefeated Iowa
bumped by a one loss team. If we get bumped by an undefeated Cinncy or even TCU it would be a big questionable bump, but a one loss team would prove the system is fucking broken in half. This wouldn’t be like Utah being bumped. The BCS would then be about SEC and fuck everyone else.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
Iowa gets bumped by one loss team
one loss team wins MNC
AP votes Iowa NC.
Another split championship brought to you by the BCS.
…give me the courage and the ability to so conduct myself in every situation that my country, my family, and my friends will be proud of me.
-Nile Kinnick
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Oct 31, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
If anyone hasn't read it yet.
Rittenberg had a nice write up of today’s game. Pretty neutral. http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/tag/_/name/hoosiers-hawkeyes-103109
"Team Comeback did it again"
Do we take this and run with it?
I think it would look nice on a T.
…give me the courage and the ability to so conduct myself in every situation that my country, my family, and my friends will be proud of me.
-Nile Kinnick
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Oct 31, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Man
“We’re 9-0,” Johnson-Koulianos said. "So whatever the BCS standings are, whatever the rankings are, we haven’t lost a game. … Critics right now, they don’t want to believe in us, but you know what? We don’t want them to believe in us.
“This is about Hawk Nation and everybody that’s involved.”
I want to give that man a big hug.
With the program
No doubt
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Oct 31, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
"Going to effect us in the polls"??
Ok, Iowa won…and they covered…and they did it with some major style points…..aside from a 25 mile an hour wind effecting Stanzi….we dominated.
So we go DOWN IN THE POLLS AGAIN?
NaptownHawk
I don't think they'll go down.
But without losses in front of us, I can’t see them making a move upwards, either.
by The Mexican't on Oct 31, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it depends on tonight....
if both USC and Texas struggle and win. Then no. If they lose. Then definitely no. If they win convincely……maybe.
USC is already past us,
as is Texas.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
Past us yes. But....
I think if teams of similar level struggle they will ignore Iowa’s first three quarters and just see that they won.
Not anymore for USC...
say I at 11:20 PM Iowa time.
LOL
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Nov 1, 2009 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
This makes me so unbelievably happy
that it should really be a crime. Who’s laying odds that ESPN will be in frantic mode of why a 2-loss USC team deserves to be considered by the national title game?
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I think
after the worst loss of the Carroll era at USC that even ESPN may have to pack in the “USC is the bestest around, forget that ‘fluke’ loss they had!” meme for this year.
I’m sure they can dust it off next year after USC looks great most of the year but loses @Washington State anyway.
Ignore that stupidity
what are they going to do…elevate Oregon with a win tonight five spots? I agree with Ferentz, we count it all up once the season is done. If there is an injustice, we’ll cross that bridge then. The disrespect is annoying though.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
Agreed.
We’re already at the bottom of the undefeated pile in the polls that count for the BCS, so that won’t change. I can’t see a 1-loss team jumping us unless maybe Oregon just annihilates USC.
The only thing that may move us down in the BCS is if the computers stop loving us as much and I don’t know as much about how those are calculated.
And...
Oregon annihilates USC.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Nov 1, 2009 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions
and terrible STs play early
missed FG, shanked punt, two muffed punts (one lost). Gave Indiana two short fields that they got 14 of their points from.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Oct 31, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
It was a disaster
but the Offense finally scored some points. SO we’ll see how that plays out next week. I thought Wegher was fine too.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
For the better part of three quarters
I thought this was as bad as we’ve played in all three phases of the game. Donahue, normally our rock, had his worst punt since he was a freshman. The punt return game was a sick joke. The defense was getting gashed. The offense was, well, STANZIBALL-ariffic.
The fact that we were still in a position to win the game at the start of the 4th quarter was, frankly, stunning. But the play in the fourth quarter was fantastic — that looked like the Iowa team we all hope to see for more than just a drive here or there.
anyone else notice RB Jayme Murphy in at OLB/CB at the goal line once?
#17
WTF was that about.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Hmm
On the roster, 17 is also the number for Taylor Herbst, a senior defensive back — maybe it was him?
pretty much the only time they go out of the base 4-3
saw a 3-4, a 4-4 (counting #17 as a LB), and a dime package (with was inside out with Spievey and Prater in the slots.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Oct 31, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
possible
both are white which the #17 in the game was.
Herbst isn’t on the roster listed on Iowa’s site though
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Oct 31, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
That is odd.
I saw him on the roster on Hawkeye Report, which is pretty scrupulously updated.
Dunno who it was, then.
Might be some dude who normally wears the same # as another player
I sorta doubt it was The Car Bomb.
I'm sure it wasn't him.
He’s out for the season, isn’t he?
But I could see it being some dude who switched numbers. That happens now and then.
so who can name white backup DB/LBs?
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Oct 31, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Both are also from Dubuque
Herbst and Murphy.
Just an observation
If it's not too much trouble, search your soul--and then ask yourself if maybe I might have a point.
by The Director on Oct 31, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
off the two deep backup LBs Tyler Nielson, Troy Johnson are white. Anyone notice them in their usual numbers? (#45 0)
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Oct 31, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, it can't possibly be Murphy
He was declared out for the year with multiple concussions. Ferentz & Co. would not play him under any circumstance. In fact, I’m pretty certain he was given a medical scholarship to open up a spot for a grayshirt.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Oct 31, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
It was definitely Herbst...
because I saw his name on his jersey. Also, the dude next to me asked me “Who is Herbst?” And I said “I know his first name is Taylor, and I don’t know anything else.”
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Nov 1, 2009 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Ooo
Miami losing to Wake. I like that.
I am shocked that Purdue couldn’t score, as well as the Illinois win
It never gets to be easy
Wisco is a pretty solid team.
I could definitely see them winning out (remaining schedule: @IND, MICH, @NW, @HAW) and finishing 10-2.
Looks like their defense really showed up big time today.
The Illinois thing is surprising because of how bad they’ve looked, but at the same time… it doesn’t completely shock me because they do have talent, so I could see how they could put it all together for one game.
No doubt
Wiscy is the 4th best team in the conference, by a wide margin, I’d argue, but Purdue has an explosive offense that I thought would put up a couple of points.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Oct 31, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks Wake
for letting Miami score. I appreciate that. Assholes
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Oct 31, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
USC-Oregon
Sorry guys, I took a nap and haven’t been paying attention to the thread, but do we really want USC to lose to Oregon tonight? I know Southern Cal looks like the biggest threat at the moment, but (1) a one-loss Oregon, while not possessing the same name brand-ness as USC, would probably have a better resume than one-loss USC; they at least would have the better loss; and (2) I can hear it now, from some knucklehead like Mark May: “The Pac-10 is the nation’s second-best conference this year, and nobody in that conference beat Oregon. But Boise State did, which makes BSU the de facto Pac-10 champs, so why don’t they deserve a shot at Floribama?”
I think we might need to be careful what we wish for.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
Put like that
I don’t know. But my fear is what they’re already saying, a 1 loss USC is sooooo much better than we are, so let’s just skip over Iowa.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Oct 31, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
I’m so off-the-charts sick of USC so far up in the polls, even though they couldn’t get it done against a sub-.500 Washington team. Eff that.
I want USC and Texas to lose tonight.
"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something."
I guess that's the end of USC
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Nov 1, 2009 7:44 AM CST up reply actions
Also (and I can't believe I'm saying this about a team coached by the Wannstache) but there is no way Cinci beats Pitt.
You heard it here first.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Oct 31, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I kind of agree.
Cincy’s offense looks so smooth, but Pitt has a pretty nasty defense that might be able to mess them up. Also, Stull has been playing out of his mind at QB.
Then again… I also remember their defense getting lit up by NC State, so…
I am impressed that Cincy’s offense is just humming right along with the back-up in there, though.
Agreed
As much as I dislike USC, I think it’s better for Iowa if they win this one. Hopefully they’ll drop another one later, ideally against Arizona.
Even if they win out, if Iowa goes into Columbus and wins by more than a touchdown, we've got two trump cards.
And if we lose at OSU, the question is moot.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Oct 31, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I understand the argument.
But, at this point, Oregon is far enough behind the Hawkeyes that I think an Iowa win at OSU puts them clear of the Ducks and Boise State. I’ll be pulling for the Ducks and Okie State, and will be a giant PSU fan all week long.
by The Mexican't on Oct 31, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Picking to root for...
either USC or Oregon is like picking to root for Duke or UConn in basketball. They are both formidable, but I could piss on either of them without feeling ashamed.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Nov 1, 2009 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions
usc oregon continued
I hear what you’re saying Hawkeye State about Oregon’s 1 loss resume being more impressive than USC’s 1 loss resume, but with the love that USC gets in the human polls, I think we need them to lose tonight. USC only being less than .03 pts behind Iowa scares me because IF they win at Oregon and against Zona, they are certain to get a bump in the computers. Iowa, on the other hand, would then have to lean on the human voters to stay ahead of USC… which seems pretty iffy to me, having to depend on the Coaches and Harris poll when we are all we aware of Iowa’s perception around the country.
so essentially, if USC wins out Iowa would be putting its faith in the human votes. doesn’t seem too encouraging to me.
does USC jump Iowa tmrw in the BCS if they win tonight?
by KentuckyThunderPussy on Oct 31, 2009 6:20 PM CDT reply actions
I could see USC jumping Iowa
it is a joke that a BCS conference champ that is undefeated and with our out of conference schedule could have that happen, but the world hates this team.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
Iowa wants USC to lose
an ugly, close game. USC has all easy teams the rest of the way. Oregon, though, has to go on road to Stanford and Arizona. They could easily lose one more. So, I am hoping for an Oregon win.
Texas just needs to lose. But, I am emotionally prepared for us to go undefeated and not play in NC game, because of Texas, TCU, or Cinncy. Of those three, I expect Cinncy then Texas to lose. I don’t see TCU losing.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
I WANT USC TO LOSE.
I am surrounded—SURROUNDED—by Trojan fans and all their shit-shouting. I would love to see USC and their suddenly suspect defense beaten on the same day Hawks wins the most improbable of victories. Remember, USC is the team that beat Iowa in the NC Orange Bowl and they never let me forget it.
NC?
What does NC stand for? That wasn’t the nat’l champ Orange Bowl, that was the year OSU beat Miami in the nat’l title game.
"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something."
Grew up in Iowa,
Now a grad student at UCLA. I was tailored to hate the fuck out of USC.
by With Ferentz Like These... on Oct 31, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah Texas
really should be our biggest concern, followed by USC.
and the only reason Texas is ahead of Iowa is because of preseason polls, which we all know are bullshit. they really only have one respectable win this yr.
by KentuckyThunderPussy on Oct 31, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
USC is not a threat
Through their transitive herpes loss to Washington, we beat them, cus we beat Michigan, who beat Notre Dame, who beat Washington, who beat USC. Thus, we’re better and the rankings reflect that.
Thank you.
Perhaps my best years are gone. When there was a chance of happiness. But I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Oct 31, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions
This whole season has been so amazing, so ridiculous, so ... WTF did that really just happen?!
That the idea that we really might have a chance to play for the crystal football is still something I can’t quite wrap my head around. Which has the side effect of keeping me from getting too worked up about the possibility of getting screwed out of the MNC.
I suppose that I might feel differently in a month or so if we’re getting shafted, but for now… what the fuck. The ride is fun. Really, really fun.
Although I don’t say that to rain on anyone’s parade or anything; the national media naysayers do get tiresome but I’m just not letting them ruin my buzz too much right now.
I totally agree
I haven’t been getting pissed at the shit that’s said about us on ESPN partially because I still kinda can’t believe we’re even in the discussion for the MNC. Iowa even being in the position to get screwed out of it is unbelievable to me. I never expected the team to be in this position. Frankly, I’d be thrilled with a Big Ten title and Rose Bowl shot. If the national championship thing happens, it happens. If not, well the Rose Bowl is also pretty awesome.
Yeah.
I mean, you’re telling me that the worst-case scenario for a 12-0 Iowa team is a trip to the Rose Bowl? Where we haven’t been in like 20 years?
Not to mention a Big 10 title we wouldn’t have to share with anyone? I mean… that’s not so bad. At all.
Depending on what happens over the next month, I’m sure my Injustice Sense may begin buzzing more strongly, but I’m just gonna ride the high for the time being.
Not only that...
but if we won the Rose Bowl and went 13-0 we’d get all kinds of sympathy cooze from the media, “Iowa got screwed over…”
by HawkeyeRecon on Oct 31, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think we would get...
as much sympathy as you think. Many of them already despise us, or criticize us whenever possible. I think there would be a sense of “you didn’t take care of business by winning impressively” with many of the media members.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Nov 1, 2009 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Depends
If we go 12-0 and get shut out because Texas and Florida/Alabama go 12-0, then it’s “tough luck, that’s just the way the system works.”
If we go 12-0 and get shut out for a one-loss team, then I think we do get some sympathy from the media; an undefeated BCS team getting shut out for a one-loss team would really get some blood boiling. There would probably still be a faction of Gregg Doyel types who would be pissing and moaning that we didn’t win impressively enough, but I think those guys would be in the minority.
I know I argue with you way too much Ross.
But, I don’t know. I don’t hear many non-Iowa people arguing right now that Iowa should be ahead of the little teams (Cincy, TCU, Boise) in the human polls. I’m not sure if that is a function of those polls not meaning much now that the BCS poll is weekly, or if it is a function of a possible “nobody cares about Iowa, and a one loss team from the SEC or Pac 10 or Big 12 are all higher quality than a 12-0 team that scraped by in 9 of those games.”
It probably doesn’t matter too much. If Iowa wins out, they will either get into the national title game, or they will have a chance to get an honorary national title if they win their non-title bowl game.
Go Hawks!
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Nov 1, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
Watching Iowa come back from an abysmal 3 quarters of football was great.
But wandering over to Maize n’ Brew and seeing SCM’s absolute hatred for the Hawkeyes get shoved down his throat in the early game thread is even better.
I don't think so
We’re already more or less done with 2010 class at this point, which is crazy. . Fiedorowicz visits next week, which is big. He and Okuyemi (who visited for the Michigan game) are the only two guys left I think we might still add.
I thought I saw some going up into the fancy seats...
….big young guys with special badges being chaperoned around by a middle-aged guy who looked official.
Maybe not CJ Tightendowicz, but I’m sure they were recruits.
IMO, they picked one helluva great game!
If it's not too much trouble, search your soul--and then ask yourself if maybe I might have a point.
by The Director on Oct 31, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
OFF-TOPIC (kinda)
What’s the deal with SEC teams doing warm-ups in one set of unis and then switching into something else right before gametime? Georgia switched into some Grambling-esque black gear and now Tennessee is wearing black jerseys.
Because they're douchebags
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Oct 31, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmm
Not sure this could have started much worse for Sparty — a 62yd TD bomb on Minnesota’s first offensive play, then a lost fumble on the ensuing kickoff.
Um… “hangover effect,” much?
That first pass was insane
I’ve never seen a tightrope act like that.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Oct 31, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I just want the Rose Bowl
and that can happen even if we lose to OSU. After watching Penn State, I don’t see OSU getting by them.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
In other news, Cook put MGo on lockdown for a few days.
Our candy just tastes better when theirs has razor blades in it.
Perhaps my best years are gone. When there was a chance of happiness. But I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
That's just being small
A horrendous loss, to be sure (one we were close to duplicating), but to lock up the board is just ridiculous. Can’t take the heat….and all that.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
He probably knows...
how many self-loathing Big Blue nutjobs will come out of the woodwork to call for RichRod’s job, or write long essays yearning for the days of Bo, Moeller, and Carr.
But the fact that he had to shut down his own blog (or at least the comments) because of those things, is absolutely hilarious.
Then again, isn’t it funny how OPS and HState all had like three different blogs during the downward spiral of Alford? (Yes, fellas, I know you were just growing into this fine thing called BHGP, I am just making a joke.)
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Nov 1, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
Masoli is fucking ridiculous
Oregon’s offense looks great. I’m not sure I’d want to play them in the Rose Bowl.
Do you have HD?
If so, try the SD version of ESPN2 — sometime the HD version is blacked out in these situations. (I have no idea why.)
I have no idea why you would watch this game instead of USC/OU or UT/OSU
But thanks for the updates
No, for real, Masoli is good
Remember Pat Grace? He’s like that but way better.
Okie State
just got royally fucked on the non review of a fumble inside Texas’ own 25 yrd line. i had to endure bitching all day about how the Big Ten gave Iowa all the calls to keep one of theirs undefeated, but it’s no different in the Big12 and SEC
by KentuckyThunderPussy on Oct 31, 2009 8:36 PM CDT reply actions
forward progress stopped is justifiable, if not nessarily the right call there.
I’m of the opinion that there isn’t any conspiracy among the conferences and their officials.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Oct 31, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t buy it either. But it does seem everything is going Texas’ way tonight. That game has been played pretty evenly, Okie State with some costly turnovers and some dropped passes, and on the wrong end of a few shaky calls.
I guess I just really really want Texas to lose, and if not tonight, they’re in the title game.
by KentuckyThunderPussy on Oct 31, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
That was a terrible call on the roughing the passer
BS
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Oct 31, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Question About the Bowl Pecking Order
let’s say Iowa goes undefeated but doesn’t make it to the title game. everyone is assuming they’ll be in the Rose due to winning the Big10. but what’s the guarantee? I mean with the way Iowa fans travel coupled with an undefeated season, won’t another BCS bowl be chomping at the bit? Assuming they get to pick before the Rose…
I tried to look into who get’s to choose when, but it requires too much thinking for a Sat night.
by KentuckyThunderPussy on Oct 31, 2009 8:49 PM CDT reply actions
I'm fairly certain that the Orange has budging power once in so many years.
Which is why Rose Bowl East happened in ‘02. However, I’m not real certain what the span is on the years. I think it’s safe to say an undefeated Iowa team is a lock for a trip to California.
by The Mexican't on Oct 31, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
No it doesn't
The Rose Bowl automatically gets the Big Ten Champ, unless the champion goes to the Rose Bowl. In 2002, the team that would have normally gone to the Rose Bowl was OSU. The team that lost the highest rated auto-bid team to the title game gets first pick of the at-large teams. In 2002, that was the Orange Bowl, who lost Miami to the title game. They took Iowa with that first pick.
They changed the rule after that year
Because of Iowa getting taken by the Orange Bowl, they changed it so that the bowl that loses the #1 team cannot pick a team from the conference of the #2 team unless the bowl that lost them okays it.
Also...
since 2002, they have added the National Title game. Back in 02, the BCS bowl game (Rose, Orange, Sugar, Fiesta) WAS the National title game.
I’m not sure how the new game affects this process. I will defer to OPS’s explanation until I am presented with concrete evidence to the contrary.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Nov 1, 2009 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions
on a side note
I’d fuck the shit out of Wendy Nix. even before Erin A
by KentuckyThunderPussy on Oct 31, 2009 9:01 PM CDT reply actions
While you are dreaming...
why not go for both at the same time?
However, your punishment might be that you have to have Pam Ward in that mix, as well.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Nov 1, 2009 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions
I suppose I should clarify...
that by “both” I meant Wendy Nix and EA, not Wendy and her husband.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Nov 1, 2009 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for that
and because of that, my penis is now just for show.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I have a random question
Do they show replays on the video boards at Kinnick when they review calls?
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
yes
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Oct 31, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
and before
which was key in getting the IU TD overturned. Iowa didn’t challenge until a replay was shown on the board
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Oct 31, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
they usually don't, but they were all over them today
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Oct 31, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, this was the first time I can ever remember it
Perhaps they heard me screaming “SHOW THE FUCKING PLAY” in ever game before this one and finally decided to take action.
usually the only benefit from getting a shitty student section seat back against the press box
is someone will always lean out during a challenge and tell everyone what happened from the TV replays.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Oct 31, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I've been going to...
nearly every Iowa home game for what seems like 7 years now. For a long time, they did not replay controversial plays on the jumbotron(s) at Kinnick. However, it seems like in the last year or two, you do sometimes see some of the controversial plays.
I think the Big Ten probably said to themselves “If we are going to let our officials be a 14 point deficit to Iowa at the beginning of every game at Kinnick, and if we are going to bone Iowa on 99% of replay reviews, then it is only fair that the fans who paid $55+ get to see some of them, just like they would if they stayed home to watch on TV.”
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Nov 1, 2009 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions
(#3) Texas 41, (#13) OkSt. 7
(#9) LSU 35 Tulane 0
(#10) Oregon 27, (#5) U$C 20
(#21) Georgia Tech 49 Vanderbilt 31
Tennessee 28, (#22) So. Carolina 13,
Wyoming 16, (#16) Utah 9
(#23) ND 33, Was St. 7
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Hmm
Utah losing can’t be good for TCU’s SOS. I don’t think that really matters for us, but still.
Meanwhile… Sparty 31, Minny 28. Gophers not so good in that quarter. I am stunned that this game and Iowa/Indiana were the highest scoring games in the B10 this week.
oops have that score flipped
Utah 16, Wyoming 10
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Oct 31, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
sideline reporter feeling up Kevin Durant's burnt orange sneakers on the Texans-OkSt. game
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
friend of a friend story time
friend of a friend was at a bar downtown, heads to the bathroom and in there, taking a piss is DJK. When friend of a friend takes the urinal next to him DJK turns to him and says “Do you know who I am?”
Friend of a friend says “Yeah”
DJK “That’s what I thought” and leaves.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Does that count as "with the program"?
If only we had a paternalistic white columnist to further explain the ins and outs of what this all means.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
Fetal Alcohol Syndrome
Perhaps my best years are gone. When there was a chance of happiness. But I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Oct 31, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
So...
does that mean that you can not feed Colt McCoy after midnight? And you can not spill water on him?
I must admit, it would be funny to see Colt and his friends tear up a toy store as they try to kill Mack Brown and Mack’s girlfriend.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Nov 1, 2009 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Amazing pics of the game
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avis=D2&Dato=20091031&Kategori=SPORTS020502&Lopenr=910310814&Ref=PH&Params=Itemnr=1&GID=Un5yjs5o+Y9R9gw0QFSP0113u/eEK7u3dgGs8iksSiE%3D
That link looks ugly, probably won’t work.
There is a link to the pics in this article:
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20091031/SPORTS05/911010330
Thank God
I don’t have to hear about USC anymore. They got so torched tonight that talk will be their ineptitude rather than Oregon’s dominance. I think Oregon will have their hands full with Arizona. It is in the desert. And, no, Oregon will not pass Iowa in the AP or Harris poll.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
I'm pretty sure the talk will be about Oregon's dominace, dude
They’ve been really impressive, even though USC’s D was probably overrated (just look at their game against Oregon State)
Yeah
Never discount the media’s ability to latch onto a new meme, never mind if it completely contradicts their previous meme. USC getting bitchslapped isn’t proof that they were unbelievably overrated since their loss to UDub, it’s proof that Oregon is THE GREATEST TEAM EVER!!!!! (ed note, does not apply to SEC teams, which are, of course, the most amazing thing to ever play the game of football and ever will be).
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Also, I love Penn State
against Ohio State next week. Minny showing some stuff though. We get no easy outs it appears.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
Minny does look way better than expected
but Weber throwing for 400 yds and 5 TDs seems like a bit of a statistical anomaly.
Thanks for showing up Okie State
Mike Gundy, are you sure you are a man?
I have no doubt about Masoli though. Jebus.
by Ratface McDougal on Oct 31, 2009 10:21 PM CDT reply actions
They won't rank a 2-loss USC team ahead of us
But what are the odds they leapfrog a one loss Oregon team ahead of us?
"I am so proud to be your coach." -Paul Rhoads
Not great because there's a lot of inertia in the polls this late in the year
Plus, there’s a decent chance that voters just look at the score and assume we dominated more than we did.
However, Oregon has looked good enough that I wouldn’t be stunned, especially with all the columns that are coming out talking about how we lucked into another one and bitching about the bad calls.
I know I said that they "probably will" earlier
But that was Masoli-induced awe talking. Realistically, they have a shot, but I’d probably bet on Iowa staying ahead a bit.
Here is my Mea Culpa...
After Oregon lost to Boise and barely beat Purdue, I claimed that Chip Kelly was in way over his head.
I am retarded.
That is all.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Nov 1, 2009 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions
I still maintain that no voters watch the games
The only thing they’ll see is the score. We won by enough points that we won’t drop.
But hell, what do I know.
by Ratface McDougal on Oct 31, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree...
that Wegher TD late could be one of the biggest of the season…
"I'm not doing any good back here."
by Hawkaloogie on Oct 31, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
The only voters that I think probably do watch the game
are the ones whose vote doesn’t count for the BCS — the AP.
No way.
Perhaps my best years are gone. When there was a chance of happiness. But I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Oct 31, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Guys...
there is no way Oregon jumps us in AP, Harris or Coaches poll. That is a four spot jump. The beat a one loss team at home. With a freshman QB against a fading defense.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
What's one 1-loss Pac-10 team
over another so long as the pollsters can keep Iowa out?
"I am so proud to be your coach." -Paul Rhoads
Actually, just now on ESPN
They opined that they thought the polls would shake out with the Ducks at #4 and TCU at #5 behind an unchanging #1-#3.
"I am so proud to be your coach." -Paul Rhoads
Alabama
won a game they should not have. Lost no ground really.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
by StoopsMyAss on Oct 31, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
That is stupid. They didn't beat the Steelers.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
by StoopsMyAss on Oct 31, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but it's one loss USC
The voters always fucking love USC. They barely took a hit for losing to a crappy Washington team. Blowing them out is going to impress people.
MSU is 4-5
Dantonio is very overrated.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
A cut-in from Eugene, Oregon...
on SportsCenter just now (at 10:50 Iowa time without falling back yet), and Herbstreit and Musberger both mentioned how Iowa surprisingly fell behind and looked terrible, but WON the game. Niether really had anything too untruely-bad to say. Does that mean they are the first members of the big-time national television media to say:
Fuck Us All, They’re Iowa
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
Right before that though on the WWL
Herb St. and Brenteford did their top 5 and it was:
Florida
Texas
Alabama
Oregon
TCU
Kirk said repeatedly he thinks (and expects others to think) Iowa is deserving of a drop in the polls this week.
Why not Iowa????
Maybe we won't get jumped in the standings,
but not because the voters didn’t see the game. Certainly you’ve noticed the zany, improbable, “Cardiac Kidz” (a couple of announcers) talk about Iowa all over the media, complete with thorough run down of each and every Stanzi ball before the BIG FOURTH QUARTER COMEBACK. It’s one of the big stories, Iowa Sucks (until they don’t).
That is amazing
I wonder what it was for just the third. I could run the math myself, but that seems like an awful lot of effort.
Musberger asked Herbie,
at the end of Oregon rout “Who’s your top five” and with helmets as props Herbie pulled Iowa from the line up and tossed it aside. “What?” said Musberger, “You don’t believe a win is a win?” Herbstreit said, “FUCK THEM! THEY’RE IOWA!”
OK, he didn’t, he said something about being up for 24 hours, he’d get some sleep and revisit the line up in the morning.
Some clown was trying to tell me that TCU has played a tough schedule than Iowa
citing
They’ve won AT Virginia, AT Clemson, AT Air Force, and AT BYU.
reply,
Iowa won AT Penn State, PSU>BYU according to the polls
Iowa won AT Wisconsin Wisc>Clem according to the polls
gtfo with fucking Air Force and Virginia. AF lost to the LOLphers, and Virginia lost their openner to a AA team and lost to fucking Duke…. at football. They lost to Duke in Football.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
quote fail, everying after reply, should be quoted
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Oct 31, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Dropped Colin Cowherd @ ESPN Radio an e-mail
“Hey, Gas Bag, during Monday morning’s Big Trojan-Alibi show (”It was too noisy" “Pete’s headset was broken”, “It was Haloweeeeen!”) don’t forget to mention how much the Big Ten Sucks."
I hate that guy. He’s for sure gonna’ hop off SC’s bandwagon and clamber aboard Oregon’s the whole time mocking the Big Ten. You watch, er, listen.
Stop listening to Colin Cowherd
His show is terrible and clearly makes you angry. Why bother? Life is too short to spend time getting angry at a douchey sports radio host whose entire career was built on being a trying to piss people off. You are giving him what he wants. Listen to music or something instead.
Cowherd can suck every one of Hawkeye X's ten dicks
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
On other non-football boards I've posted on - NO respect
“I’m not impressed.”
Its coming from tOSU fans, of course.
We are committing the terrible sin of Winning Fugly. Fuck you all.
Bring your A game, and we’ll stuff it up your ass. Ask the 9 teams that we’ve beaten whether they are impressed with us.
You'd think OSU fans would be the last to criticize teams for Winning Fugly
Their team made a living of it in the pre-Troy Smith era.
Yeah...
and during the Troy Smith era, they made a living out of losing all their big games.
And Smith made a living by taking money from agents.
OhHowIHateOhioState!!!
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Nov 1, 2009 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Picking nits, but...
I think the post-Troy Smith era is where the Buckeyes have really lost their big game mojo. Aside from the rebuilding year of 2004, the only big games I can recall Smith losing at OSU were PSU in 2005 and of course the BCS Title Game in 2006; he did win the Fiesta Bowl in 2005 and beat Michigan in the super-hyped 1 vs. 2 OSU-Michigan game in 2006. Granted, it was the latter loss that truly kicked off OSU’s atrocious run in big games, but prior to that, Smith was pretty good.
Yeah.
I just hate OSU. And I hate Troy Smith because he is the epitome of what I hate about OSU (took money, got a slap on the wrist, went on to win the Heisman).
He did lose a home game to Texas in 2005. And a home game in his first year to Purdue in 2004 (he went 14 of 29 for 1 TD and 3 picks). And the national title game to Florida and the reg season PSU game you mentioned.
But, he did beat Michigan 3 straight times. And they beat Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl at the end of 2005.
He did have a great career win-loss record (25-5). It just seems that he didn’t really do all that great on the biggest of stages. Maybe that is why they are big games – because they are not easy.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Nov 1, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
BTW, Ross.
Can you name the other game that Troy Smith lost? You and I came up with 4 of his 5 losses. But there is one more, and I think it is one where he started as the backup but came into the game, had very good numbers, and still lost by a high margin.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Nov 1, 2009 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
The irony here
is that Iowa was in part responsible for the rise of Smith. In the 2004 OSU game, the defense took out the OSU starter (Zwick?), one of about 3 or 4 starting QBs we destroyed that year, which led to Smith getting in. Led them on that last scoring drive, meaningless in the game, then the rest of the season. At that point in the season, OSU was in serious trouble of having a losing record. Smith came in, turned them around, beat Michigan, and got OSU to a bowl game, triggering a bonus payment in his contract i believe.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
I do wonder
how long Tressel would have stuck with the clearly ineffective Zwick anyway, but I guess you never know. Based on the ugly way the 05 and 06 OSU games went for us, I would have traded a few scores in the 04 game if it meant getting to keep Zwick in action for a bit longer.
Maybe.
Although, it seems like the Glenville crew were destined to run that place (OSU), and so Zwick’s days were probably numbered.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Nov 1, 2009 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
Yep Hoya...
that was the game I was trying to make Ross guess.
I love that game. It is the only game in my actual memory (because I don’t really remember 1991 or earlier) where we beat (and stomped) OSU.
Have I mentioned that I hate Ohio State?
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
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