The Road to Pasadena
Oh, you're so antiquated, Lady Rose. Never change.
Let's do a little mental exercise today. Yes, we promised there would be no thinking on Thursdays, but like Tim Brewster's heart, promises were made to be broken.
What will it take to get Iowa to Pasadena? This could be either the Rose Bowl or the MNC (what? it's still mythical), since both are in Pasadena this year, and of any team in the Big Ten, Iowa's got the most reason to start pondering scenarios. Yes, yes, one game at a time, but that mentality only helps athletes. Thus, if you've got an Iowa Hawkeye in the room, please: cover his eyes or make him leave. There. No more problem.
Their only competition for the conference crown would be the winner of OSU @ PSU, taking place the week prior while Iowa faces just Northwestern. The winner of that game will likely only have one conference loss, though we should probably want Penn State to win; Iowa's already got a game and the tiebreaker on them, whereas Iowa doesn't have the head-to-head advantage on OSU. Yet.
If Iowa beats Ohio State
Should Iowa go into Columbus and win, they're in such a commanding position for the Big Ten title that you may as well book the tickets for Burbank (don't you dare use LAX) right away. It would be the Buckeyes' second or third conference loss, and the only other team with one loss (PSU) would have to hope that Iowa loses two of their final three home games against Indiana, Northwestern, and Minnesota. All dangerous teams in their own way, yes, but the odds that Iowa loses two of those games are pretty small.
As far as the Rose/BCS Title game goes, obviously, carnage reigns in college football from week to week, and the title picture now will probably bear less resemblance than you'd think to its championship week iteration. Obviously, Iowa has no prayer of making the BCS if they lose any game from here on out, but they're probably closer to a strong position to make that title game than you'd expect. After all, the Big XII, SEC, and Pac-10 are highly rated for a reason; it's really hard to run the table in those conferences. The Big Ten too, but we can all agree that this is not the BXI's finest season. Let's just get that out there right now.
Thus, if Texas loses, there's likely no team that could keep an undefeated Iowa out of the title game. Yes, USC is ahead of them in the polls, but don't expect this pattern to continue if Iowa wins out. Voters love an undefeated team, and the computers already love Iowa. Likewise, if something wild happens in the SEC, as is usually the case, we could be looking at Iowa-Texas. Anything can happen.
One teeny tiny problem; in the modern era (post-WW2), Iowa has won at the Shoe precisely four times: 1991, 1987, 1959, and 1948. It's the only place in the Big Ten where Kirk Ferentz hasn't won. So we do need to explore this possibility:
If Ohio State beats Iowa
Perish the thought, right? If this happens, OSU is in control of their own destiny to go to Pasadena (though Iowa's 11-1 record still leaves them in contention for an at-large BCS bowl bid). So if OSU wins out from here through their date with Michigan, there's nothing Iowa can do.
The good news is that they've already lost twice this season, looked frightful in their loss to Purdue, and have struggled to put away all but the worst of competition. They're not impressive, and that's primarily because Terrelle Pryor's not impressive. So if OSU runs the table against @PSU, Iowa, and @Michigan, they'll have to be playing their best football of the season--a level far above where they've been so far. So there's that.
Thus, if Ohio State beats Iowa and loses to anybody else, Iowa's got the Rose Bowl bid still; they've got the tiebreaker over OSU, and the Buckeyes' second BXI loss eliminates them from consideration. Seriously, Purdue made this situation so much easier.
If Iowa beats Ohio State but loses one of their remaining home games
In this seemingly unlikely scenario, Iowa still has the Big Ten championship in hand; even if PSU runs the table from there on out, the tiebreaker dooms them, and nobody else in the conference would have just one loss. Likewise if Ohio State wins every remaining game except against Iowa. At the very least, this scenario would remove all gnashing of teeth about the title game. It would also suck so hard.
If Iowa beats Ohio State but loses two of their remaining home games
Ho boy. Do not do this, Hawkeyes. In this case, Iowa, PSU, and OSU are all at 6-2, but Iowa has the tiebreaker by having beaten both of those teams. Hurray hurray.
If Iowa loses to Ohio State and loses a home game while Ohio State beats Penn State and loses to Michigan
Now, now the fun begins. Like above, Iowa, PSU, and OSU are atop the conference at 6-2. HOWEVA, they've split the three-way series at 1-1, which means overall record comes into play. Iowa and Penn State both went undefeated in the non-conference while OSU lost to some creampuff called "Southern California," which eliminates the Buckeyes. Iowa beat Penn State, so they're in.
Basically, the only way Iowa doesn't go to Pasadena is if Ohio State runs the table from here on out, including a win at the Shoe against the Hawkeyes in three weeks. Unfortunately, that's among the most plausible scenarios. They've looked miserable against good competition this year, but they're still Ohio State, and until they get that second loss in the Big Ten, they're a mortal threat to Iowa's Rose Bowl hopes.
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Dammit Oops
but we can all agree that this is not the BXI’s finest season. Let’s just get that out there right now.
Knock that shit off. The Big Ten is better 1-6 than any conference not named the SEC (and that is MUCH closer than it has been in the past two years). You can put the Top 3 of the conference up against any conference in America and stand a good chance of winning 2 out of the three games. It is time to end the meme of The Big Ten is Down. It’s not true. Not this year. Not in comparison to the football that is being played in the other leagues this year.
Sorry to fly off the handle like that, but I will go door to door throughout the Midwest to make this point. The Big Ten is good. Embrace it.
http://www.rivalryesq.com/
The quintessential Big Ten smoking room.
by Bama Hawkeye on Oct 29, 2009 11:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If the Big Ten is good
then it must really suck to be bad.
BSD
by Kevin HD on Oct 29, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ask the ACC
or the Big XII.
http://www.rivalryesq.com/
The quintessential Big Ten smoking room.
by Bama Hawkeye on Oct 29, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, we're good but only because everyone else sucks?
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Oct 29, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How else
can you measure good but in comparison to the others?
And I’d like to thank Virginia Tech for assisting me on my argument tonight.
http://www.rivalryesq.com/
The quintessential Big Ten smoking room.
by Bama Hawkeye on Oct 29, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I'm not disagreeing, just asking
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Oct 30, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You love bragging, I've noticed that.
You mention “no one is better 1-6”. Well, you could also argue no one sucks worse 8-11. It’s a tale of two classes, but I’m not sure you could say for certain that we’re clearly better than everyone else like your tone indicates.
BSD
by Kevin HD on Oct 30, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
9 and 10 aren’t horrid either. #11, yeah, nothing good there.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Oct 30, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why Burbank?
Why no LAX?
by Wegher Please! on Oct 29, 2009 11:37 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
isn't Burbank the John Wayne airport?
by HawkeyeRecon on Oct 29, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the Orange County Airport
Which, BTW, has a HUGE statue of John Wayne in one of the terminals.
by Leftcoast Hawk on Oct 29, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck Burbank
and pretty much fuck everything east of the 405 (minus the bowl game itself).
I like turtles.
by lilzaphod on Oct 30, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder...
how angry Lilzaphod gets when he/she watches the “Real Housewives of Orange County” ?
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 30, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, just to add to the ridiculousness....
If Iowa wins out, the 2010 game against Arizona in Tucson will be to tie the all-time Iowa win streak of 20 games, and we would likely be ranked #1 in the country.
Just thought if we were going to get ahead of ourselves, we might as well go at it balls out!
by Wegher Please! on Oct 29, 2009 11:42 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Two Scenario Notes
If Iowa beats Ohio State but loses two of their remaining home games
Ho boy. Do not do this, Hawkeyes. In this case, Iowa, PSU, and OSU are all at 6-2, but Iowa has the tiebreaker by having beaten both of those teams. Hurray hurray.
You assume that Ohio State beats Penn State. If the Lions win, they’ll be 7-1 and the champion all by their lonesome.
If Iowa loses to Ohio State and loses a home game while Ohio State beats Penn State and loses to Michigan
Now, the fun begins. Like above, Iowa, PSU, and OSU are atop the conference at 6-2. HOWEVA, they’ve split the three-way series at 1-1, which means overall record comes into play. Iowa and Penn State both went undefeated in the non-conference while OSU lost to some creampuff called “Southern California,” which eliminates the Buckeyes. Iowa beat Penn State, so they’re in.
You assume that Wisconsin doesn’t win out. That matters, because the Badgers and Lions didn’t play. That means that Big Ten’s new convoluted tiebreaker system will come down to the BCS rankings (not longest time without being league champion – it’s a new change this year). That could really suck.
http://www.rivalryesq.com/
The quintessential Big Ten smoking room.
by Bama Hawkeye on Oct 29, 2009 11:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Woo
Nice of us to look at the debacle from the B12 last year and say that we want of piece of it
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Oct 29, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good additional clarity
Thanks.
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Oct 29, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just imagine...
We get to that wonderful place where you have no losses, (almost) everyone should be back at full health after a good break, and KOK grows a pair that aren’t cancerous… Honestly, we could take TX. And it would be awesome.
I have occupational turrettes... My job makes me swear uncontrolably at everyone.
by Ioweegin on Oct 29, 2009 11:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Honestly...
We could take Texas, USC, Florida or Alabama. There is no team we can’t beat.
by Bucketochicken on Oct 29, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So goes college football
Although the only two teams out of those four the really scare me are Bama and USC. Florida and Texas have flaws that cater to the Hawks style “make them beat themselves”. I don’t see that as much in USC and Bama. Although Greg McElroy suck’s big ole McNutts.
/O'keefe'd
by Smokin Herb Grigbsy on Oct 29, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can take Bama
What is Bama’s offense outside of Ingram and Jones?
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Oct 29, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if everyone loses out
but Illinois runs the table?
Iowa right?
Or if Illinois runs the table but everyone drops football as a Div. I sport?
Iowa, right?
Or if Ilinois wins out but the Big Ten is disbanded as a conference and severs it’s ties to the BCS and every school blows up their stadiums?
Iowa, right?
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
by StoopsMyAss on Oct 29, 2009 1:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We're fucked
this makes me way too fucking nervous. Beat Indiana, that’s as far as I can focus.
by Hawkeyes on Oct 29, 2009 1:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Next Man In!!!
Let’s face it Ferentz is hands down the best coach in college football and if you do not yet believe it then watch the next 4 games as we plug in a few guys that have very little experience. Watch as they surprise all of us. But should it really be a surprise? This is what Ferentz has done his entire career, he develops players! And that my friends is why we not only can count on being in Pasadena but winning while we show the world what Iowa football is all about! GO HAWKS!
by jrr18Ha on Oct 29, 2009 2:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, gang, I
…was down at the Rose Bowl this morning. It sits in an Arroyo (illegal alien for “creek bed”) the temp a brisk 42 degrees. They finally got all the trash and equipment from the U2 concert hauled away. And, oh yeah, the sign’s fixed so it no longer reads “The Rose Owl”.
Right now the only game I am concerned about winning is the NEXT ONE and let the computer chips fall where they may, but still, hope to see each and every one of you out here on the 7th or New Year’s Day whichever comes first.
Sixty minutes of football. Six seconds at a time. Go You Fucking Hawks.
by Zulu on Oct 29, 2009 3:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Getting nervous on Thursday. I hate this glorious season.
by txhawkeye on Oct 29, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You waited until Thursday?
I began worrying about IU right after I saw that McNutt held on to the pass. They have a bad habit of throwing the monkey wrench into the cogs at just the time when it hurts most. Anyone got any TUMS?
by TEXaco on Oct 29, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BUT...
You are forgetting 1 essential element. I will be at that game and I have NEVER seen the hawks lose at Kinnick!
"Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein."
-Joe Theismann
by HawkCub on Oct 29, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we're proper fucked
this place smells like feet. i’ll bring a can of lysol next week.
by pfac51 on Oct 29, 2009 9:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Iowa reminds me of '02 OSU
Never popped so many Xanax in my life. What did happen that year?
by BuckIball on Oct 30, 2009 4:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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