"It Was A Physical Game, There's a Lot of Guys Who'll Be Feeling It In The Morning, But That's Big Ten Football"
by Oops Pow Surprise on Oct 25, 2009 1:30 AM CDT
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A.J. Edds, with one of the best interviews of the night. For more interviews, check out the sports blogs at GazetteOnline.com. Unsolicited endorsement, we assure you.
Brief aside--I'm stunned that more newspapers don't use YouTube for purposes exactly like these. Do the PC and DMR really want the Gazette to be the only paper that comes up as a result if you look on YouTube for a specific player? But I digress.
Edds brings up a point not to be ignored--that was a ferociously physical game. The weekly toll of injuries that Iowa usually inflicts on others happens to the Hawkeyes this week. Brett Greenwood, of course, was a horrific fluke and we hope that wasn't a brain injury, "only" the neck. But Colin Sandeman and Dace Richardson are both out for, you'd have to believe, the rest of the regular season. Jeremiha Hunter and Adam Robinson were also reportedly dinged up. That's tough for a team to deal with.
And yet, unlike Wisconsin last week, Iowa didn't turtle, and they brought it for all 60 minutes. Thank god for that, because they needed all 60 tonight. Kudos to both teams for bringing it.
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We’re just gettin’ lucky HuhHuhHuh
by Hank Thrasher on Oct 25, 2009 1:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Heard MSU coaches and players went after refs
After the game about the defensive holding call and 4 plays in 15 seconds. Weak sauce. Four plays in 15 seconds is on the clock operator (if anyone), who is a home guy for MSU…
Unbelievable win for the Hawks, i have to admit i thought it was over…
'They are who we thought they were!'
by twsmith23 on Oct 25, 2009 1:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
1) The clock operator is neutral, picked by the Big Ten. Has been ever since 2001, thanks to Lloyd’s whining.
2) Anyone complaining about either of those calls is clueless. Easy to run three plays in 13 seconds (leaving two for the fourth play) when they’re all quick slants to the endzone. And Rucker threw the receiver out of bounds eight yards downfield.
3) Argument about the Ware hit getting a penalty makes a little more sense (the flag was thrown so late that they must have changed their minds because of the guy getting KO’d, which is a no-no; if it’s clean, it’s clean regardless of the consequences), though it’s not a ridiculous call if they make it immediately. Also about the fumble right before your go-ahead FG (though I think you guys recovered that anyway, otherwise I’m sure our D would have put up more of a protest about the call).
by SpartanDan on Oct 25, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: The Ware hit
The rulebook is pretty clear on this one: “No player shall initiate contact and target a defenseless opponent above the shoulders. When in question, it is a foul.” That’s what happened here. It’s a new point of emphasis this year, because they’re trying to crack down on concussions (which, if you’ve read any of the recent research on the long-term effects of concussions, is a noble goal). I don’t think Ware was being malicious on that hit, and I agree that it’s unfortunate that the flag came in late. But by the letter of the rule, it was the correct call, and I’m glad the officials are enforcing that rule. Those sorts of hits need to be deterred.
by NorseHawk on Oct 25, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The hit on Sandeman
Watching it in real time I initially thought it was a vicious, but clean hit. However the replay showed that the call was completely justified……late flag or no.
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 25, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And although it was a fumble, Wegher recovered it. Why they screwed around for so long looking at it was beyond me. The sequence ultimately was irrelevant.
by txhawkeye on Oct 25, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You've never seen referees confer after a play and call a play a fumble or not?
Especially before instant replay. That used to happen all the time. Everything happens so fast, a first instinct might be wrong. Not often, and most things are inconsequential. The closest ref might not have seen the helmet-to-helmet. Another, from further away, might have seen it but since he was so far away, didn’t want to throw the flag. They get together, they talk, the call it.
After all, how is this any different than referees coming together and waving OFF a flag, deciding there was NOT a penalty when at first they thought there was?
Answer: it’s not.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
by tyger1147 on Oct 25, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Brutal game
The locker room must have looked like the battlefield from Gone with the Wind after the game.
by Guancous on Oct 25, 2009 2:05 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Admission of guilt
I, too, had completely given up. I had crumpled up in a ball on my shitty futon in the basement of my house and was planning on finishing the bottle of gin to my side as defeat medication. Instead, I finished it in celebration, and we all know there’s a big difference.
Thank you Sparty.
Also, fuck you Sparty.
Also, good game.
Lastly, fuck you.
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 25, 2009 2:07 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Amen?
I have nothing to add. Other than to say, I felt the same way. Unfortunately, I was watching the game at a Richmond BW3, and all of the tables around me were MSU fans. I don’t think they liked it when I screamed and fell to my knees when McNutt caught the pass.
To their credit, they were gracious in defeat. We all kind of looked at one another in total disbelief at what just happened.
And Edds is a great interview.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Oct 25, 2009 2:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the "S" is for "Sad Fan"
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 25, 2009 2:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That might be
The bitchmade “Fan Of The Week.” Montage anyone?
No more of that talk or I'll put the fucking leeches on you, understand? Raoul Duke
by wowski on Oct 25, 2009 3:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
After this one, maybe we should take the win and not rub it in karma’s face. After all, those whom the Gods wish to destroy they first make proud.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Oct 25, 2009 4:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely Right
We aren’t getting any style points but it’s awful nice to be on the RIGHT side of narrow margins of victory. Remember last year’s 8-4 squad that lost four games by a combined total of 12 points? This year we have four tight wins with a total margin of victory of SEVEN points (UNI, Arkansas State, Michigan, Michigan State).
I don’t want to jinx anything but we may have figured out how to win the close one.
by SavagePoop on Oct 25, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Classy
Way to poke fun at a downtrodden MSU fan. Anyway, great game, looking forward to Nov.14.
Yours truly,
Buckeye fan
by BuckIball on Oct 25, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wahhh.
Yours truly,
Rambler
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Oct 25, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OSU fans lecturing other fans on what's classy?
Sorry, my irony-meter just spontaneously combusted.
by RossWB on Oct 25, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The foam Spartan hat adds a certain something...
much like Penn State bear-pig-furry-animal-girl.
by mattbednar on Oct 25, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the fat guy on the left is better...
This one may blow up better for the Bitchmade Fan Banner…
by Leftcoast Hawk on Oct 25, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gave up immediately after the TD.
After McNutt scored to win, I immediately went to my dresser and found the shirt I bought at Pints while in Iowa City for the Michigan game. What did that shirt say, you ask?
MARVIN MCNUTT’S ’N YA MOUTH.
by The Mexican't on Oct 25, 2009 2:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I need to be counted as....
one who gave up hope on an Iowa victory as well last night.
I was talking to my Dad on the phone, giving him play by play because he didn’t get the game in South Carolina where he lives. He also is 82 and doesn’t have a computer. So after that hook and ladder play I said to my Dad, “time to start praying.” My dad is a retired preacher.
When MSU scored the go-ahead touchdown, I screamed in to my Dad’s ear, “Fucking Iowa!!”
I relayed what happened to my Dad and he said, “well that is too bad for the Hawks, and you don’t need to use language like that.”
When we scored with 2 seconds on the clock, I once again screamed in my Dad’s ear, IOWA FUCKING WINS WITH A PASS TO MARVIN FUCKING MCNUTT!!!" My Dad says, “Way to fucking go IOWA!” I am not sure if I was more suprised at the victory or at my Dad saying “fucking”.
He then started crying and said,"I believe that Iowa is going to win the NC, and I have been waiting all my life for this to happen. I hope and pray that my Dad is “fucking” correct.
TOUCHDOWN IOWA! TOUCHDOWN IOWA! - Gary Dolphin
by SpoWAHawk on Oct 25, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Too funny. Sorry your dad couldn’t watch unless his heart isn’t too great. Mine is worse for wear today.
by txhawkeye on Oct 25, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you and your Dad get to see the NC this year!
As for me, I was sitting at the bar with non-Hawkeye buddies, and with 2 seconds left I asked them to raise their glasses and say cheers to the most fun season I’ve ever seen, win or lose. I was sucking down my fat tire when McNutt caught the pass, and we all erupted.
The best thing about this season has been all of the fans of other Big Ten teams openly root for Iowa to go undefeated.
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Oct 25, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too.
I watched the game at home and my wife and I turned to each other after White caught the TD and proclaimed the game over. In fact, when Iowa called TO before the final play I was absolutely convinced that the only reason that we were in a position to win the game was to make the inevitable loss that much more painful. I braced myself for the football gods’ swift kick to the junk and until I saw McNutt laying underneath (Eubanks?) I couldn’t even move.
Two other thoughts:
1.) To echo everyone else, MSU played a hell of a game. Too often opposing fans aren’t willing to give credit where it’s due. We didn’t give them their TD, they just flat-out played. Good calls by the coaches and good execution, particularly when Cousins threw that touchdown laser beam to White in between the safeties.
2.) I like the contrarian columnists out there that are essentially reminding everyone that Bama and Florida haven’t exactly been worldbeaters either, and Florida in particular has amassed a 7-0 record against generally weak competition (see Charleston State). This is a homer’s opinion, but Florida’s lone signature win came in a close night game on the road in a hostile environment. Iowa has three of those to its credit now.
by Abbas_Cincinnatus on Oct 26, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
After the 3 straight incompletes
I went outside. I was shaking and feeling sick, kind of weird. I went outside, sold my soul to the devil, and thought I would have time to run back in to catch the last play.
Much to my surprise, I hear my wife let out one of the loudest shreaks I’ve ever heard from her and, my favorite part, my Michigan friend jumping up and down.
I couldn’t believe that I missed the play, very unlike me. But good lord was it worth it.
by Duez I say on Oct 26, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was in the stadium and didn't watch either UNI kick blocks
I was pissed and couldn’t bring myself to actually watch the play(s) where we lost to fucking UNI, so I closed my eyes and only knew things went well when everyone around me went nuts and the guy next to me (who I had known for all of an hour) tackled me in joy.
by NorseHawk on Oct 26, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was out driving, listening on the radio, after picking up a pizza...
Actually got the pizza cold because I was listening to the game and yakking with a buddy in Des Moines who was watching… when he said “Oh shit” after the MSU score, I grabbed the pizza and got back in the car dejected, but found a sports talk show that was following the final play and basically almost drove my car into a freeway bridge abutment screaming “OH FUCK YEAH!” when the talk guy said we’d won. Then my buddy calls and we’re screaming Apeshit-like at each other on the phone.
by Leftcoast Hawk on Oct 25, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right after MSU scored,,,
I texted my friend and said “16-13” sounds familiar. (that the score we lost on at MSU last year…fyi)
"I'm not doing any good back here."
by Hawkaloogie on Oct 25, 2009 2:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great interview by Edds
“That’s Big Ten football”. Damn right. Also, I may still be drunk.
by Imustbreakyou on Oct 25, 2009 8:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Second,
What a win I’ve been waiting to believe, but I’m sold through and through now. I almost cried when they won (and vomited, but that’s another story) promptly tried to run around the bar and immediately rolled my ankle…
by The Nihilist on Oct 25, 2009 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Injury Report
I tweaked my knee whilst jumping around with 85 other screaming Hawkeyes at a watch party in Nashville. I’m still hoarse and hobbling this morning. Any other celebratory injuries?
by SavagePoop on Oct 25, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm day-to-day with a liver.
Perhaps my best years are gone. When there was a chance of happiness. But I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
by jebushchrist on Oct 25, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I punched a blade off of my ceiling fan
which may not sound impressive, but it was moving at the time. Where in the hell can one buy a single blade for a ceiling fan?
by TarHeelHawk on Oct 25, 2009 9:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the real question is
Where can one find a black and gold ceiling fan?
by Imustbreakyou on Oct 25, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Try Lowe's
they have a lovely selection…
by DGnarly on Oct 25, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did that once as well...
but I snapped three blade brackets right in half. I thought it was hilarious…my mother less so.
by Argulor on Oct 25, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
30 seconds in
After Brooks asks him about the goal line stand -kind of play you have to ‘strap it up’.
Great interview by Edds. I am seriously impressed with his skills, I can’t put 2 sentences together like he just did the entire interview.
…give me the courage and the ability to so conduct myself in every situation that my country, my family, and my friends will be proud of me.
-Nile Kinnick
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Oct 25, 2009 9:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just in case anyone is interested
BTN is currently replaying the game. Greenwood just got knocked out. I know a lot of people are upset with MSU"s fans for the way they reacted on the Sandemann play (and rightly so), but they did give Brett a warm ovation when he got carted off.
/devils advocate
by TarHeelHawk on Oct 25, 2009 9:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Indeed.
Their sportsmanship after that play only wound up highlighting their lack of sportsmanship after the Sandeman hit.
by RossWB on Oct 25, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn’t tell at the bar (was too noisy), but I suspect most of the booing there was for the flag, not for Sandeman. If that’s not the case, then it was totally shameful.
by SpartanDan on Oct 26, 2009 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's slightly complicated.
Initially, their booing was absolutely about the flag, particularly the lateness of it. I totally understand that.
However, Sandeman was on the field for a while (had to be at least five minutes) and mthey continued to boo. And many of they booed even more vociferously once he got up and was (somehow) able to woozily walk off the field. As if he had fucking flopped to get the flag and just been laying there largely motionless for the last 5+ minutes to sell the hit. To me, booing an injured player walking off the field is classless.
by RossWB on Oct 26, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeesh, spelling fail.
mthey=they
they= them
by RossWB on Oct 26, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have never heard so much booing in my life.
And they booed through that whole drive.
by telepathetic on Oct 26, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, watching that again
Kirk went over to talk to Brett right before he got taken to the locker room. Wow.
by TarHeelHawk on Oct 25, 2009 9:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Congratulations, guys
That was the best football game I’ve ever attended. Hurts like hell, even a day later, but we gave you absolutely everything we had, and, ultimately, your guys made the plays.
I’ll be rooting for you the rest of the way.
"Do not cheat your team or your teammates. Know your plays. Block. Protect. Add to what we are trying to do."
The Only Colors
by LVS on Oct 25, 2009 10:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we may have given you most of what we had
At least the parts named Richardson, Greenwood, and Sandeman.
Man, that was some physical Big Ten football. Heck of a game.
Brunettes not fighter jets
by rockyh on Oct 25, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I'm worried about.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
by tyger1147 on Oct 25, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This picture is in the Detroit News this morning
I don’t think any caption is necessary. Well, since I can’t put the picture here, I’ll just link the article. The photo alone makes it worth the read.
by TarHeelHawk on Oct 25, 2009 10:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Link fail?
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Oct 25, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets try that again.
Once again, no edit feature proves it’s usefullness.
http://www.detnews.com/article/20091024/OPINION03/910240414/1031#
by TarHeelHawk on Oct 25, 2009 10:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You can put the picture here
A second time just because… I can. :)
by Leftcoast Hawk on Oct 25, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watching the replay on BTN
MSU just got the hook and lateral. I said in another thread, and I’ll say it again. That was ballsy; and had I been wearing a hat just now, I would take it off.
by TarHeelHawk on Oct 25, 2009 10:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Was the perfect playcall
And good execution.
Brunettes not fighter jets
by rockyh on Oct 25, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I miss plays like that
When was the last time we showed any creativity with call?
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Oct 25, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"When was the last time we showed any creativity with call?"
Not since KOK was named the OC.
by the_iowa_hawkeye on Oct 26, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Blowouts would be nice but you must admit: The Hawkeyes are certainly more exciting this way. If this team bores you then you don’t like college football.
by Guancous on Oct 25, 2009 10:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2009 MSU = 2008 Iowa?
Tough losses, close losses — some against very good teams, some against teams they should’ve handled. Losing streak, then it seemed they were back on track. This one might be the equivalent of our game vs. Illinois last year.
We’ll see how it plays out. Clearly MSU is a good team.
by NHguy on Oct 25, 2009 11:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps
I know I’m not looking forward to our game with them.
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Oct 25, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think MSU is one of a number of Big Ten teams that will be good for some time:
Iowa, Michigan, Penn State, MSU, etc.
by mattbednar on Oct 25, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure I buy this.
At this point through both seasons, I dare say Iowa had yet to play its best football (had a nice Wisky win under our belt, but had yet to beat PSU, or kill Minnesota, or win the bowl).
I think it is possible that MSU has now already played its best football. Yeah, they will probably beat Minnesota, W Mich, and Purdue. I don’t think I see them beating PSU. That would put them at 7-5 before the bowl game, with a probable last loss against PSU. We were 8-4, and on a roll.
Maybe I’m nitpicking.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 25, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of irrelevant
but this came from Rittenberg last night:
The Big Ten still has a horse in the national championship race. And right now, it would be foolish to bet against the Hawkeyes.
i just thought that was a great statement
by Pain in the Sash on Oct 25, 2009 12:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I saw...
the game at a sports bar in LA. Only a total of four of us (didn’t know each other, only that we were Hawkeyes in common) in front of the Iowa/MSU screen, about thirty people other side of the room in front of Texas and another forty other corner for Florida. When McNutt caught THE PASS we made so much noise we drowned out the whole place.
I’m in constant touch with local LA Times sports writer (we have a mutual friend) syndicated in CRG as “Rankman”. Volley of e-mails back and forth with him this am, he still maintains Iowa is just lucky and not in the same league as other undefeateds or his beloved Trojans.
I wrote him, “Maybe if Iowa gave up 482 yards to a team named after a tree gnawing rodent we’d get some respect.” But Ferentz said it best when told Iowa still wasn’t respected, “We kind of like it that way.”
by Zulu on Oct 25, 2009 3:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Where’d you watch the game? I have yet to find a good group of Hawks fans out here to watch with…
by With Ferentz Like These... on Oct 25, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I live in Sacramento... no one respects us out here
Got more respect for the Hawks when I was living in SEC country, believe it or not…
by Leftcoast Hawk on Oct 25, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I xan only assume
it’s because the only experience they have with the Hawks is from 2002 when USC depantsed us. I’d put these Hawks up against anybody, Pac 10 or elsewhere, they just find a way to get it done, and a rematch with USC would be fun as hell, of course there’s another game later on I’d rateher they be in, but I digress…
by The Nihilist on Oct 25, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No respect
probably because Southern California has bitch-made the Big 10 school in four of the past six Rose Bowls. Until the B10 starts winning January bowls again, there will be no respect. Hopefully Iowa will change that this season.
"Sweet lady fate, why dost thou piss on me so?"
by bluearmadillo on Oct 25, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
probably because Southern California has bitch-made the Big 10 school in four of the past six Rose Bowls. Until the REST of the B10 starts winning January bowls again, there will be no respect. Hopefully Iowa will change that this season.
There fixed it for you! Or I think you are specifically talking about BCS bowls
…give me the courage and the ability to so conduct myself in every situation that my country, my family, and my friends will be proud of me.
-Nile Kinnick
by Hawkeyewith49Jackrabbits on Oct 25, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whups.
I meant January as shorthand for BCS, forgetting about the nonBCS bowls played in January. Thanks for the correction. :)
"Sweet lady fate, why dost thou piss on me so?"
by bluearmadillo on Oct 25, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta love this picture
Look at KF’s face. Says it all.
by Leftcoast Hawk on Oct 25, 2009 6:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And ranked #1 in the nation by the computers
I always knew humans (sportswriters) were worthless
"If Ron Zook were an ice cream flavor, it would be praline and retard"
-Garth Algar
by Tree Meister on Oct 25, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And 8 by the Coaches/Harris
It would be nice if Iowa beat Indiana by 25+ at home this Saturday. They need to give the voters one less excuse to disrespect Iowa.
"Sweet lady fate, why dost thou piss on me so?"
by bluearmadillo on Oct 25, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I, for one,
welcome our new computer overlords and look forward to a world where emotionless logic rules supreme!
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Oct 26, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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