Iowa Ranked Sixth in Initial BCS Standings
The initial BCS rankings are out, and 7-0 Iowa comes in sixth. They place behind Florida, Alabama, Texas, Boise State, and Cincinnati. It is Iowa's highest BCS ranking since the last week of the 2002 regular season. This comes despite the fact that the Hawkeyes are ranked seventh in the Harris Poll and eighth by the coaches. The bump to sixth comes as a result of the computers, where (contrary to the Bleacher Report's unhinged ramblings) the Hawkeyes are shown much love: Iowa averages third in the six BCS computer rankings, with Colley placing them first and only Billingsley leaving them out of the top 3.
I can find only one serious quarrel with the teams ranked ahead of Iowa: Boise State, which has played exactly two teams with a winning record -- Oregon and Tulsa -- and has just one left on its remaining schedule. It's far too early to start gaming out the scenarios, but if Iowa's BCS standing actually matters at the end of the year -- essentially, if they run the table -- the strength of their schedule should be enough to overtake the Broncos. Same goes for #5 Cincinnati, which has a legitimate shot at going undefeated in the Big East, but had an otherwise strong non-conference slate weakened by Fresno State's meh performance and Illinois' implosion.
I'm frankly more surprised at teams ranked behind Iowa: Southern Cal, who are ranked fourth by both polls but hated by the computers for their mediocre schedule, and Texas Christian, who ranked ahead of Iowa in the polls prior to this week but again loses points with the machines.
As said above, it's far too early to seriously consider the implications of the BCS rankings. As Hlas points out, less than half the teams ranked in the top two of the initial standings have made the championship. Just once has #1 and #2 made it to the finish unscathed. There is a lot of football left to be played, folks. Try to stay calm.
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We're Number 1
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"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
Where you at now, bitch?
“I’m worried about this game”…I told you to bet it when the line came up Iowa +1 1/2.
Gave me something to cheer on Saturday afternoon
by Purple Flag on Saturday on Oct 19, 2009 8:33 AM CDT reply actions
Yeah, I read that Bleacher Report crap on Friday...
…and was like, “Don’t you people check your facts?”
I mean, I knew that the computers were giving us a lot of love, and I wanted to reach through the interwebs and choke those shitty apologists. Obviously the reason for our lower ranking was the PEOPLE who were voting, aided by tWWL’s Big T(elev)en smear campaign [uh… as of Friday the Big XI had four teams in the top 35- – it MUST be a down year].
The greatest thing about all of this was Sunday when I was listening to the early morning recap on the radio, and not one, but two national sports radio guys responded to Iowa winning again by saying, “Ugggh!” in disgust. Hilarious. They don’t want us here, they don’t think we should be here. Now THAT’S Iowa football.
And actually, my favorite thing about all these ranking shenannigans is that Hawk fans seem like we could care less. People are now talking about how we don’t belong in the National Championship picture, but all anyone in Iowa seems to care about is the Rose Bowl. I don’t know how many people I’ve already heard that have said they don’t care about National Championships and whatnot, that all they care about is going to the Rose Bowl.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Oct 19, 2009 8:49 AM CDT reply actions
Bleacher Report is the worst sports site on the internet and you should never read it
by NorseHawk on Oct 19, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don't know
CFN makes me want to stab my eyes out most of the time.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Oct 19, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah...
…I know, but there was only, like, one post put up on here on Friday, and I was dying for some Hawk related reading. I was going to sign up to the BR site and give him what for, but then I remembered what kind of trash that site is, and decided it wouldn’t be worth my time, but it was under my skin while listening to the pundits yak about Iowa not being for real (considering I knew we were top 5 in 5 of the 6 CPU models before Wisky).
Instead, I let the Hawks do their own talking, and I liked what they had to say.
by Eyeheartfreedumb on Oct 19, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I think that Rose Bowl comment...
over the NC is dumb. However, I was debating aloud the other day which of the following scenarios I would prefer:
a) Iowa loses one or two more games, but also beats the ever-loving $hit out of Ohio State in Columbus. I mean like 55-0 bad.
b) Iowa “squeaks by” for all games except OSU, we lose a close one to OSU, and we still have a shot at the NC, but more likely we go to a Fiesta Bowl or the Rose Bowl that is not the title game.
Yes, I hate Ohio State that badly.
I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
-- Judge Smails
by WaterlooChazz on Oct 19, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I honestly wouldn't mind...
if we went to the rose bowl as long as we got to get a rematch with USC. If there is any year they are vulnerable in that game its this one.
Great Find
I’m assuming that guy uses some kind of computer program to determine the rankings. Is he anyone of note?
In all fairness
Bleacher Report guy posted a follow up talking about the initial BCS rankings and admitting to eating glue.
Brunettes not fighter jets
Quick Question
What is it called where there is a complete breakdown of every play of a football game? For example:
Iowa:
Drive 1 Play 1: blah blah blah
Drive 1 Play 2: blah blah blah
Where would I find those for each Iowa game? It would make it much easier for editing Iowa videos, especially if they playclock time was listed for each play.
ESPN
ESPN’s game recaps include a play-by-play, although the game clock time is only listed for the start of each drive.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Oct 19, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks a lot!!!
I dloaded each of the games using bit torrent and have started a few videos. I make awesome videos through the first half of the game and then I usually get bored and never finish them.
by HawkeyeRecon on Oct 19, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks a lot!!!
I dloaded each of the games using bit torrent and have started a few videos. I make awesome videos through the first half of the game and then I usually get bored and never finish them.
I have the same problem
Try Adderall
No self-respecting man from Iowa goes anywhere without beer
by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Oct 19, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
If you're doing that, check out the hit by Morse on Mike Taylor, I think in the second quarter.
It was just a simple kickout block on a play that didn’t work — but Taylor didn’t get up for five minutes. Morse hit him so hard both his feet were in the air and he was done. I believe Taylor was their leading tackler going into the game, so Graham, Clay and Taylor were all no-shows for a good piece of the game, after being thumped.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
The Bleacher Report in general (not just that post) for the most part = Billy Madison speech
What you have written is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent posts were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on the internet is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by Yinka Double Dare on Oct 19, 2009 10:37 AM CDT reply actions
Lou Holtz
Holtz wanted to vote Florida, Texas, Alabama, and Iowa collectively tied for 4th.
That is all.
I heard this morning...
that an Iowa win on Saturday moves us ahead of Cincy regardless of what they do because of our S.O.S. I also heard that if we win out we will pass Boise easily regardless of what they do. But then again, I hear a lot of things.
"I'm not doing any good back here."
A ONE Loss SEC Team
should be our BCS concern, not Cincy or Boise
by KentuckyThunderPussy on Oct 19, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Leman was just holding you guys back last year
You thought you needed him, but he was an emotional ball and chain.
"How many things do you do where you are involved with 110,000 other people on the same page? Unless you're in an English class cheating with 30 other guys."
You should never say such things about Leman...
If you’ll recall he was at the PSU game, we haven’t lost since.
I heard he's been in Afghanistan most of the year killing Taliban
He’s collected over 320 scalps.
by HawkeyeRecon on Oct 19, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Some Love From Pete Fiutak
1. Yes, the Hawkeyes vs. the Bearcats really would be good.
If you think Florida is the best team in America, fine. If you think Alabama is the second best team in America and Texas is third, that’s fine, too. Those three have survived so far while other big names fall by the wayside, and they appear to all be worthy of being in the national title discussion. But don’t just assume that they belong in the BCS Championship because of the conferences they play in, and that could be the debate for the next six weeks.
Why, exactly, does the Big 12 champion deserve any benefit of the doubt? More to the point, what, exactly, has Texas done to be considered a sure-thing to be in the BCS Championship game besides having a great name and a lot of sympathetic feelings after what happened last year? So the Longhorns beat Texas Tech. Yippee, Houston did that, too. So the Texas defense was great against a Sam Bradford-less Oklahoma. BYU and Miami had few problems keeping the Landry Jones Sooners under wraps. Again, if you want to think Texas is one of the three best teams in America, that’s great, it might be, but you can’t just do that without explaining why Iowa and Cincinnati, at the moment, don’t belong in that discussion.
Boise State is its own problem. There comes a point in the national title talk when deserve enters into the equation, and it doesn’t matter if the Broncos are 1995 Nebraska; the schedule is too weak. But that doesn’t work for Cincinnati or Iowa. I don’t think either team will go unbeaten, but let’s say for the sake of argument that they will. That means Iowa will have beaten Penn State, Wisconsin, Michigan State, and Ohio State, the four other top teams in the Big Ten, on the road. Throw in a win over a nice Arizona team that’s not playing all that poorly, and the Hawkeyes will have the résumé. If Cincinnati finishes unbeaten, then that would mean it beat Oregon State at Oregon State, won at South Florida and Pitt, and beat UConn, West Virginia, and Illinois (fine, the Illini stink). That’s not that bad, but it’s not like winning the Big 12, right?
Oklahoma lost to BYU and Miami, Oklahoma State lost to Houston, as did Texas Tech, Nebraska lost to Virginia Tech, Texas A&M got whacked by Arkansas, Missouri has become extremely average, Colorado stunk it up before beating Kansas, who played no one before losing at Boulder, and no one else is even worth discussing. So based on what you can prove, and not what you believe, make your case for the Big12 champion deserving anything this year just because of the conference it plays in.
I know, I know, we’re not supposed to speak ill of the almighty SEC. After all, if Sports Illustrated says that no one plays football like they do in the southeast, then it must be true, but there’s a whole bunch of mediocrity happening outside of the world-beaters at the top. The SEC has done its part in non-conference play to be the best in a bad lot of conferences, but watch Georgia, LSU, Ole Miss, Tennessee, Auburn, Kentucky, and South Carolina play a few games and then bet the house, the car and the kids on any one of them against a mid-level team from one of the other BCS leagues on the road. They’re good, but they’re not so good that the SEC automatically deserves every benefit of the doubt. Florida and Alabama do, and the winner of the SEC Championship, if it really is between those two, deserves to play for the national championship, but it gets interesting if the SEC champion has one loss. More on that in a moment.
The SEC has been great out of conference … at home. The best road win was Auburn over West Virginia. Wait, that was at Auburn. Georgia over Oklahoma State … no, that was a loss. Georgia over Arizona State? That was a home game, too, as was the Tennessee loss to UCLA, the Kentucky win over Louisville, and the Mississippi State loss to Georgia Tech. Every decent SEC non-conference win either came at a neutral site or was at home, with the two exceptions the South Carolina snoozer over NC State and LSU’s win over a Washington team that won’t go to a bowl.
Does the SEC have a non-conference road win as good as Cincinnati’s 28-18 over Oregon State? How about a road win as good as USC over Ohio State, TCU over Clemson, or Houston over Oklahoma State? In other words, don’t just assume it’s the SEC’s world and we’re all just taking up space, even if Florida and Alabama are the two best teams in college football. Utah proved last year that there’s always a balloon out there waiting to be popped.
But perception does matter, and right or wrong, the SEC is the top dog and the Big 12 is considered No. 2. So if all things are equal, what’s the pecking order for the national title? Whether you believe this is true or not, here it is (going on the current records and perceptions) …
No. 1 – Undefeated SEC champion
No. 2 – Undefeated Texas
No. 3 – One loss SEC champion
No. 4 – Undefeated Iowa
No. 5 – One loss Big 12 champion, Texas
No. 6 – Undefeated Cincinnati
No. 7 – One loss USC or Oregon (yes, even with the loss to Boise State, and no, it’s not fair)
No. 8 – One loss ACC champion
No. 9 – Undefeated Boise State
No. 10 – Undefeated TCU
But if this really is the case, ask yourself this: would a Cincinnati vs. Iowa national
by KentuckyThunderPussy on Oct 19, 2009 12:11 PM CDT reply actions
There is no way in hell
that an undefeated Iowa is edged out of the NC game so that an undefeated SEC team and a one-loss SEC team can play a rematch. That is the height of hypocracy and would prove once and for all that a BCS does not work.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
Good Point Stoops
I didn’t think about the rematch factor. and I hope you’re right. Hopefully, like most years, it’ll play itself out. Texas has me worried in the overrated Big12. Figure they gotta get past a decent Mizzou team up there, then go to Stillwater the following wk, and likely replay Okie State in the conference title game.
obviously all this BCS talk gets a lot more interesting if we win in East Lansing. I see we’re 2 pt faves as of now. They proved me wrong with Wisky.
by KentuckyThunderPussy on Oct 19, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Trust me...
Mizzou is not the Mizzou of the past few years. And if a Missouri fan tries to tell you that “The Zou” is an intimidating place to play, you tell them to leave your presence immediately because you don’t tolerate lying.
Mizzou is decidedly meh this year. That game this weekend in Columbia is a lose/lose proposition for Texas. They are supposed to win, and frankly, should win big. So if they win, they did what is expected of them. If they lose, (which they won’t) they will drop big time. It is homecoming for MU, but when you have a fanbase that buys tickets based on who MU is playing rather than the home team…
As evidence of that previous statement I present last year’s home opener against Buffalo. Was not sold out. Mizzou was ranked #3 in the nation at the time. There is zero intimidation factor playing in Columbia in my personal opinion.
Texas will win big, and will barely break a sweat doing it.
Black and Gold Blood: Cubbie Blue Heart
by MissouriHawk on Oct 19, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Texas will likely pull away in the second half.
But they have looked really sluggish in the first half in a lot of games this year, so it would not surprise me if the game was close-ish through the first 30 minutes.
It would certainly help Mizzou’s upset bid a lot if Gabbert was healthy, but it seems like he’ll probably be dealing with that ankle injury the rest of the year unless he sits for a few weeks.
"...likely replay Okie State in the conference title game."
Pretty sure that’s impossible, what with both of them being from the BXII South and all.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Oct 20, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
BcS
“There is no way in hell that an undefeated Iowa is edged out of the NC game so that an undefeated SEC team and a one-loss SEC team can play a rematch. That is the height of hypocracy and would prove once and for all that a BCS does not work.”
You think the BCS is about impartially determining who the best team in college football really is?
The BCS works just as its makers intended—it generates revenue for the major football conferences and protects the turf (and earnings) of the major bowls. Crowning a [mythical] National Champion is a by-product of the BCS, not its primary goal.
by Midnight Rambler on Oct 19, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
As was stated somewhere today
Delaney would pull the Big Ten out of the BCS if this happened. Think about it. At that point, we have no place in the BCS. Alabama losing the very last week off season to Florida - or vice versa - and then getting a rematch in the (next) Nat. Champ. game won’t EVER happen. A) no one would watch it, ratings killer; B) computers wouldn’t allow it; C) even the idiots at the Harris polls would move the loser down; D0 what happens when the loser then wins? Play a third, tiebreaker?
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
Almost happened with tOSU & Michigan
I believe the computers did allow it, but the coaches changed there votes so Michigan got left out….
Fuck tOSU
Big Ten and Rose Bowl
A couple years ago, the Big Ten spiked talk of a +1 national title game, essentially a four-team playoff, because it would have undermined the long-standing, and mutually profitable, relationship the Big Ten has with the Rose Bowl. The Big Ten and Rose Bowl announced they would withdraw from the system rather than see the traditional Bowl network jeopardized…thus ending any chance of a playoff happening any time soon.
My point is the Big Ten is more concerned with long-term profits and keeping the old guys from Pasadena in the ugly blazers happy than it is with the national title chances of any one of its member schools in any one year. No way would the Big Ten withdraw from the BC$ just because Iowa gets slighted one year, assuming it goes that far. If the Big Ten really wanted its schools to have a better shot at the mythical national title more than it wanted to keep the present BC$ system intact, it would have signed on to a playoff system.
Ask Auburn fans how willing a BC$ conference is to wreck the system just to ensure that an undefeated school from that conference gets a shot at the national title one year. Anyone thinking the Big Ten is willing to dump the cozy and profitable relationships that the BC$ protects just to give Iowa a national title chance doesn’t understand what the BC$ is really intended to do.
by Midnight Rambler on Oct 20, 2009 6:36 AM CDT up reply actions
You made a leap there that I did not make myself
I never said Delany would fight for Iowa’s place in the NC game. I said if the reason an undefeated Iowa did not make the National Championship game was because a one loss Alabama or Florida having just lost in the SEC Championship had no effect on their place in the top 2, he would freak and threaten a pull out. As would every other commissioner. Because, at that point, you no longer have a BCS. You have the SEC invitational. Auburn was not bumped by a second school from the same conference with a loss. Besides, TV and the bowls would not be happy with a rematch…what happens if the winner the first time loses? A tiebreaker? This scenario would never happen.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
SEC Re-match
I’m not sure a re-match would be a TV ratings dud if the circumstances were right (or wrong, depending on how you look at it). If Florida and Alabama played one of those Epic Game of the Century clashes in the SEC title game where the outcome came down to the wire and neither team made any major mistakes, I suspect interest in a rematch would be quite high on the national stage. This did almost happen with Michigan and Ohio State a few years ago—there was plenty of interest in a national title game rematch.
I suspect Texas is going to trip somewhere along the line, making an Alabama-Florida re-match a little more likely. If Iowa were to go undefeated, though, they would jump the loser of the SEC title game. If Iowa loses between now and December, then the whole discussion is moot, from an Iowa point of view.
by Midnight Rambler on Oct 20, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
No rematch has ever done well in the ratings.
thTV people hate them and they make it clear behind the scenes. Coaches (Or AD’s more accurately) who vote in the polls know this too. That is why the Michigan game never happened.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
by StoopsMyAss on Oct 20, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
The voter for the South Bend paper is smoking Irish sinsemilla
He has Iowa ranked 13th, behind two-loss Va. Tech, amongst others. And Notre Dame at 23.
In the AP Poll, Iowa is ranked as high as 4th (several voters) and as low as 15th (Scott Wolf, LA writer, and should go back to acting in the new “V” series).
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Oct 19, 2009 12:32 PM CDT reply actions
Eh...
At the end of the day, I must adopt the same attitude that Ferentz has it doesn’t really matter where we sit this week, what matters is where we sit at the end of the season. Granted, we may be getting royally fucked at the moment, but I prefer us to not be receiving any respect. This team seems to feed off the “lack of respect factor” in all of its games. Look at how we performed in Madison where we were the underdog.
They took the bar, the whole fucking bar!
by recoveringfratguy on Oct 19, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
What matters...
I guess from my perspective what really matters is next week. I want to believe that we’re hitting our stride and we’ll be playing our very best bll on November 14, when we go to Columbus. However, recent history shows that we can’t really afford to take anyone lightly. The team that can go on the road and beat Iowa State, Penn State and Wisconsin by double digits has to hang on at home against UNI and Arkansas State.
Frankly, I’m not that convinced that we’re going to beat Michigan State in East Lansing or jNU at home. I appreciate the rarity of Iowa participating in the BCS parlor game this early in the season and it’s fun to speculate, but ultimately I just want to beat MSU. And Indiana. And jNU, tOSU and Minnesoooota.
by Abbas_Cincinnatus on Oct 19, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
The longer we go without a loss, the more worried I get that this week could be the game that we drop. What makes it even worse is that if/when we do lose at some point this season, I am going to take it that much harder the further into the season it happens.
I just pray that we escape with a win this week, and then we can start talking about what scenarios could play out to lose to Indiana (courtesy of StoopsMyAss).
They took the bar, the whole fucking bar!
by recoveringfratguy on Oct 19, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Scott Wolf
Wolf is a well-known Big Ten hater (he doesn’t even rank Penn State or Ohio State, but finds room for Idaho) who has ranked one BXI team in his top 10 all season (Ohio State, preseason). Ignore him and the rest of the LA media, who universally dismiss the conference far more than any collection of writers in the deep south.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Patrick Vint on Oct 19, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Scott Wolf molests collies...
Well that’s what I heard!
by HawkeyeRecon on Oct 19, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
One minor change
I highly doubt a one loss SEC champion gets in over undefeated Iowa, or undefeated Cincinnati for that matter. Remember, one loss SEC champion means they lost to a low or unranked team, near the end of the season. That would drop them below us in both polls, and would keep them there.
Imagine for a moment that Florida loses this week to Mississippi State. Unlikely, sure, but if they did, they would drop to roughly 10th in the polls, lose significant ground in the computers, and short of us/Cincy losing, wouldn’t be able to recover that ground, even after beating #1 Alabama.
If we win out, the only way we don’t get in is an undefeated SEC champ and undefeated Texas. However, let’s just beat MSU this week, OSU in a few weeks, and everyone else, and let the BCS figure itself out. Although I greatly dislike the BCS, for the most part it ends up doing a decent job. The only time it didn’t, Auburn got hosed. If an undefeated BCS conference team gets hosed again, they’ll change it.
SEC Champ Game
assuming Bama and Florida meet in the SEC title game undeafeted, whomever loses wouldn’t drop that far based on #1 vs #2 and all the SEC love from the media
by KentuckyThunderPussy on Oct 19, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
However...
If there is another undefeated team available (non-Boise State division) or even a one-loss team like USC, the voters will probably try to avoid the rematch in the championship. The one-loss team will have lost to the other on a neutral site in the last game of the season — why bother with a rematch? With a rematch the SEC Championship basically counts for zilch.
And as a Michigan fan, I really hope if it happens it’s Florida losing in the SEC Championship. Preferably then getting jumped by another one-loss team to keep them out of the title game.
by Yinka Double Dare on Oct 19, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
If Iowa played Bama in the NC game
they could win that…Florida? I don’t know.
The press would bath the SEC team in praise and write how fearful they are of another Big Ten let down. I would love it. But Ferentz can beat Saban at his own game…no question.
But that is long off. In analyzing MSU, we need to shut down their run and not have any three and outs. If we do that, we win. In other words, ball control and wait for the Sash pick.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
I agree with the…lets just concentrate on beating sparty at sparty…for once
having said that…your discussion of conf play is very enticing and the secenerios that are posted for the title game I have said since a couple of weeks ago…
the sec=big ten this year. yeah it might have been a funny statement a couple of weeks ago but the two good teams in the sec dont really scare anybody the way they are playing. they both have very good d and little offense. ummm the big ten IS BETTER than the sec. and right now floridas d is not playing very good. but THEIR refs are. googlie mooglie florida had to have help to beat the last place d in the league arkansas. even the MIGHTY tebow couldnt do it without the refs. his fumbles were hysterical. screaming like a madman after he ties it up with the help of refs and then preparing himself for another crybaby plague and they suddenly look PURDUE like
the rest of the sec is…yes say it espn and gary danielson…CRAPPY. tenn, kentucky, auburn..what a joke to be ranked after playing nobody, georgia, LSU the biggest joke of all, arkansas whose qb looked like it was playing for michigan the last few years ago, miss st, and lets put ole miss at 5 because they beat an overhyped texas tech team last year….did I forget anybody else because the sec is hardly the best. that arguement is SO FOUR YEARS ago
how that whole SEC is the best started. one florida fan writes a post on cbssportsline and then it turns into an anthem, all the while they forget that the big ten and big eight dominated for 25+ years in the 70s and 80s but OOPS lets not talk about that and one or two golden years in the middle of this decade the sec had georgia, LSU, auburn, gaturds, and I dont even think alabama was back yet and its turned into this forever deal?
the sec is better talk. its over.
texas doesnt impress me in the least. it would be very interesting to see what cincy does. its too bad pike is hurt because I would love to see a team like cincy bring down the bcs or better yet…A BIG TEN TEAM bring down the BS! oh wouldnt that piss off the media and the world would be coming to an end. iowa winning it all! get the perishables ready
ummm
spoken like a true prodigy! The only 2 teams i think Iowa would have trouble with is Florida and Oregon. I think Iowa could beat USC and Alabama. Call me crazy but i’ve drinking the Kool-Aid and i love it.
i don't wife em...i one night em
by smokinthereiff on Oct 19, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
The Herd
Don’t ask me why, but I was watching The Herd on ESPNU today and Colin Cowherd specifically held up Iowa as an example against Florida to say the infamous SEC speed advantage was “palpable.” I would just love to see Angry lower a shoulder into the Gators’ waterbug, Jeffery Demps, and see how fast that SEC speed gets up off the turf. Please, God, let that happen.
While talking to Phil Steele, Cowherd tried to discount the Hawkeyes, saying that everyone was dreading (or was it fearing?) that Iowa would run through the Big Ten undefeated, insinuating that no Big XI team was worthy of playing for the NC over a one-loss team from any other league. Wisely, Steele quickly shot him down. Phil Steele, I shall continue purchasing your glorious gambleholic preseason football magazine every year.
I was listening to that on the radio
and I was pissed, but I realized that Colin Cowherd is some stat nerd who says he is a fan of the game but he’s a fan of Florida, Alabama, and USC and thats about it. The guy is a complete tool and I don’t know why I listen to his show. He later went on to say that he hates football that is played in the snow or is affected by other elements because he loves the game so much he hates to see it tainted. Fucking football was invented in the Northeast of the United States and they FUCKING PLAYED IN SNOW AND RAIN. The game wasn’t invented in southern California or the south east United States.
I really hate Colin Cowherd.
"If Ron Zook were an ice cream flavor, it would be praline and retard"
-Garth Algar
by Tree Meister on Oct 19, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
The "Sportsnation" show he is on is the worst thing on TV too by the way. Total waste in every way.
Why not Iowa????
Cowherd
is nothing but a preening, hypocritical, front-running thief. Nothing makes me feel better, or confirms that my take on it is correct, than when Cowherd takes the opposite position I do or doesn’t give my team a chance. And don’t expect things to change from Cowherd, unless Iowa were to win a national title, then he’d be claiming he “knew” we were the best all along and blast “those in the media” that didn’t believe in us.
Cowherd is a blowhard. He thinks being wildly opinionated, regardless of how well thought-out or supported his position, is far superior to any analysis and is one of those guys that think just because thousands of people call in to tell him he’s wrong on something that it is far better to be “controversial” and “move the meter.” His “reasoning” on Iowa/the SEC/any sport is nothing more than repeating the dominant media meme and trying to pretend that he is just being “honest”. He’s a hack and it’s a disgrace that ESPN has stuck with him as long as they have.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Hopefully the coaching staff is recording and noting all these comments
If I were KF and the staff, I would have the audio of all this on a 24/7 loop in the locker room, in the gym, on a giant set up at the bubble and practice field. Make copies of the words the media are saying and post it in all their lockers, on all the doors and make sure that everywhere they go – in giant “Fuck You” 48 font – they have to see that NO ONE thinks jack shit of them.
Drill it into their head that no one wants to see them succeed. No one wants them to win the Big Ten and no one certainly wants them spoiling their precious BCS.
Drill it into their head that it’s them versus the world. They have to prove their worth every time out on the field because no one is giving them credit for the successes so far this year.
by Twin Cities Hawk on Oct 19, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
(sigh)
Cowherd is merely a sports version of a cable news pundit, someone who is paid well to incite and entertain, but not inform. I still lived in Oregon when Cowherd was still on Portland radio, and he was nowhere near as annoying as he is now. He actually had a lot of smart, reality-based things to say about sports and fanhood. But when he went to ESPN he ditched that and adopted his current persona as the self-absorbed, ADHD, eternal bachelor that we all want to punch through the TV/radio.
"Sweet lady fate, why dost thou piss on me so?"
by bluearmadillo on Oct 19, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
He also said
that Notre Dame should give Weis an extension because they shouldn’t expect to compete on the national stage but should be happy to compete with Michigan, MSU, Purdue and other “teams of the Midwest.”
He noted that “why would anyone want to play for Notre Dame? Their women are fat and smart.”
I don’t personally care for ND but that’s a pretty immature way to build an argument.
SEC SPEEEED
Florida and Iowa? I think that’s kind of a split decision in recent years. Of course we did beat LSU and S. Carolina as well in that time frame.
Brunettes not fighter jets
Woody Paige just demanded that Iowa be ranked higher in the BCS, higher even than Florida.
I don’t know what else to say.
Perhaps my best years are gone. When there was a chance of happiness. But I wouldn't want them back. Not with the fire in me now. No, I wouldn't want them back.
You probably could say “when it comes to advocates for Iowa the only guy I’d want less than Woody Paige is Mullet Mariotti.”
Oops, I’m only making Jay more famous by posting about him.
by Yinka Double Dare on Oct 19, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
My worst fear
in all of this potential mess is that I may have to root FOR NEBRASKA in a Big XII Championship game against an undefeated Texas team! That goes against everything I stand for, and I can’t imagine what will happen to the universe if that ends up being necessary. I am pretty sure I will spontaneously combust or something at least. Rooting for Nebraska or rooting against Iowa making the NC game is like one of those evil, “Would you rather” things…and I would rather do just about anything else. Please God let Texas lose before that game.
Why not Iowa????
If last week is any indication, UT’s biggest vulnerability will be Ok State; and I have a hard time seeing a loss there as their coach is wound notoriously tight, and his teams reflect it. My plan is to worry about MSU this weekend, and if, by fortune, we get past them, Indiana next. Play the no respect card, because it isn’t going away.
If that's what it comes down to
I will gladly eat my pride and cheer on the Huskers. I’ll feel dirty, but I know where my priorities lie.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Oct 19, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
You could root for a meteor to strike the stadium in the midst of the game. That would kill two birds with one stone.
They took the bar, the whole fucking bar!
by recoveringfratguy on Oct 19, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but......it's Nebraska, correct?
And no one really has any use for Texans, correct?
"[angry frown]" - Lloyd Carr
by ReadingRambler on Oct 19, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions
True.
Plus we’d have a metorite crash to study – hooray for science! Woo!
by Bucketochicken on Oct 19, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Hew now.
"Sweet lady fate, why dost thou piss on me so?"
by bluearmadillo on Oct 20, 2009 6:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Just Lincoln
Let it wipe out just that shithole of a town Lincoln is. My son and some close friends lives in Omaha. Don’t need any unnecessary casualties now.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Oct 20, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions



















