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Three Reasons Why You Should Not Entertain Dreams of Pasadena Yet

Iowa defensive tackle A.J. Edds holds up the football and celebrates an interception with teammates Shaun Prater (28), Pat Angerer and Jeff Tarpinian during the second half of an NCAA college football game against Wisconsin Saturday Oct. 17, 2009, in Madison, Wis. Iowa won 20-10. (AP Photo/Andy Manis)

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3 months ago: Iowa defensive tackle A.J. Edds holds up the football and celebrates an interception with teammates Shaun Prater (28), Pat Angerer and Jeff Tarpinian during the second half of an NCAA college football game against Wisconsin Saturday Oct. 17, 2009, in Madison, Wis. Iowa won 20-10. (AP Photo/Andy Manis)

1. Five games remain: @Michigan State, Indiana, Northwestern, @Ohio State, and Minnesota. Each of those teams has beaten Iowa since 2006.

2. Iowa's next game is at Michigan State, and Iowa hasn't won in East Lansing since 1995. Granted, it probably doesn't matter too much to these players what happened in college football while they were in grade school, but history shows that East Lansing is where Hawkeye dreams go to die.

3. Big Ten Tiebreaker Rules:

  1. If there is a tie for the championship, the winner of the game between these two teams shall represent the conference.
  2. If there is still a tie, or if the tied teams did not play each other, the representative shall be determined on the percentage basis of all games played.
  3. If there is still a tie, the highest-ranked team in the final BCS standings shall be the representative.

In other words, it doesn't matter that Ohio State has a Big Ten loss already. Unless they lose another game, they still control their own destiny--and Iowa's got to go there in November.

 

Star-divide

That all said... this season is already shaping up to be special. Just lowercase-s special at this point, mind you, but of the five hardest games on Iowa's Big Ten slate, Iowa has now won the first three. All that's left are two fierce road games and three "trap" games at Kinnick. Win at least four of them, and it's a capital-s Special season.

More later.

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I am a fan, not a player/coach

I shall entertain such dreams, thank you very much

by DJKHawk on Oct 17, 2009 9:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dude

You might just cost us the season!!!

I like turtles.

by lilzaphod on Oct 17, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who brought Debbie?

I wash born here, an I wash raished here, and dad gum it, I am gonna die here

by Gabby Johnson on Oct 17, 2009 10:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ohio State will not end with 1 loss

That team is too dysfunctional. I thought the defense could bail them out, but they played poorly.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 17, 2009 10:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep....at this point in the year, you have to assume

that most teams have found their identity. Iowa has found theirs, and OSU has found theirs. For as much bitching as is done about the Iowa offense, the offense that OSU is running is worse…by a lot. Wisconsin shut them down, and today Purdue – PURDUE – shut them down. OSU still has trips to Ann Arbor and Happy Valley, and you don’t have to stretch your imagination to see them losing both of those games, and do you really see Iowa losing 3 of their last 5? I don’t.

by TarHeelHawk on Oct 17, 2009 10:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I can't help it

Dreaming is okay but yes, it is unlikely that we make it unscathed through conference play.

And you can take that to the bank.

by Hawkeye X on Oct 17, 2009 11:11 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

believe msu controls thier own destiny as well

and has a favorable schedule after our game

I do what I can.

by Anonymous Hero on Oct 17, 2009 11:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not quite

MSU needs OSU to lose once more, since the second tie breaker is win/loss percentage. Given another Buckeye loss, MSU will control it’s own destiny though.

Light a man a fire, he'll stay warm for a day.
Light a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

by Seer on Oct 18, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dreams

At this point, I think its safest to say that ultimately, WE control the destiny of everyone else in the conference. Until we lose, they can’t do a damn thing.

The destiny we don’t control, however, is the national championship. I don’t harbor any craziness that we should/will get that far, but if we DO go 12-0 and either Texas or the SEC champion has 1 loss, we damn well better. What surprises me is that no one in the mainstream media has caught on yet that we’re down to a single ranked team left on the schedule, and 3 of the 5 left are at home, and the computers have us anywhere between 1 and 5 from what I’ve read, yet nobody even mentions us. I like it that way, because we seem to play better when we have the ‘nobody believed in us’ card, but at some point some outrage about teams that have lost being rated above us needs to start happening.

No we don’t get stylish wins. But wins are wins.

by benvious on Oct 18, 2009 12:02 AM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

I think we're going to get a lot of press this week after the BCS rankings come out.

I just hope the team stays focused and is able to get past next week with a W.

by HawkeyeRecon on Oct 18, 2009 12:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If there's anything the first 7 games have shown us

is that every game will be a struggle (struggle bus? to steal a PSU meme). We can’t afford to look ahead against anyone, and a resurgent MSU scares me, A LOT. The only solace I can take is that this team seems to be well aware of its limitations, and doesn’t have the attitude of being world-beaters with a sense of entitlement. I hope it lasts.

Actually, I don’t like Iowa’s odds this year. I mentioned to a friend of mine, after the Arizona game, that we just didn’t have the pieces in place this season to win it all (Big XI title, let alone national), but that if every underclassman (Bulaga, Spievey) came back next year, with the return of our injured players (Hampton, Bernstine), we were dark-horse national title contenders. I remain convinced of this.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 18, 2009 1:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

With the way this season has been going

I’m beginning to worry less and less about what are ostensibly our toughest games (the road dates with Sparty and the Buckeyes) because our focus and level of play on the road (particularly in the second half) has been nothing short of stunning. One double-digit road win featuring total domination (ISU) in the second half is nothing too remarkable. Two (PSU) is an interesting coincidence. Three (Wisco) is definitely starting to look like a trend. We haven’t allowed a single point in the second half on the road this year, which is just mind-blowing.

I still think MSU and OSU are the best teams we’ll play yet this year (in the regular season, anyway), but so far this season we’ve done a hell of a job of elevating our play for the big games against the best opponents.

I’m a bit more nervous about the home games, though. Winning those four games by a combined 16 points and allowing fourth quarter scoring drives in every single one is concerning. Add in the fact that two of our remaining home games are against Indiana and justNorthwester, who have deviled us in the recent past… ugh. I hope we can bottle up whatever elixir we’ve been using for road games and sprinkle some out for those games.

by RossWB on Oct 18, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

IF Iowa wins next wk in East Lancer Lounge

“fuck u guys, i’m goin home”

and by home i mean “It’s the little old lady from Pasadena / has a pretty little flowerbed of white gardenias.”

by KentuckyThunderPussy on Oct 18, 2009 3:49 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

because i’m slightly/very intoxicated; i see this team running the table. we’ve cleared our two toughest tests to date and besides ISU and Zona, they were our two most dominate wins. This team has what it takes. I’m not betting on it by any means but I love this team more than myself and have the faith that they can do it. GO HAWKS.

by Pain in the Sash on Oct 18, 2009 4:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

there is no way the BS and college football world is going to not get their beloved cheatfest gaturds in the final game. they will have a SUC conf team in there. after watching the ref aided cheatfest that helped florida no doubt in my mind they will have help so we can endure 5 to 10 more weeks of the teblowhard fest too. but….

nothing is going to stop me from celebrating this season so far and YES looking ahead to what if this team does in fact win them all

god the media would be besides themselves if the GASP…the iowa hawkeye are in the picture and what the hell do we do now with this team. I think its funny to envision them freaking out that GASP..a big ten team NOT named ohio state and what if ….

a team who actually beats the sec in bowl games.

dont burst our bubble yet. we are going to enjoy this week. the BS system trying to explain florida no.1 while playing overrated patsies week after week and then explain how iowa winning on the road in tough environments is not that big of a deal and the very thing that iowa is doing, winning close games but florida gets a pass is happening. yeah let the BS squirm. oh yes they still have their pacifier, alabama, in case the cheating gaturds lose but I love that teams that arent supposed to ruin their little bowl championship series that includes such teams as boise state, cincinnati, TCU and IOWA! bahahaha ha

we will enjoy this if not for just one more week but…I think this team is just a little more special than even others think. keep dissing the hawks media and they just might be forced to ruin the all week, all season tebowfest with an iowa hawkeye article of love…OMG if that were to happen. the hawkeyes BUMP the god that is tebow!

by kinnickcolt on Oct 18, 2009 7:37 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I am terrified

every game right now seems like a trap. This is a team that is getting stronger, as usual, but we can’t afford any slip-ups. MSU always plays us tough at home, jNW has our number, Indiana is not the patsy we all knew, aOSU is there and likely pissed. And MN may want a bit of revenge.
I hope the guys are enjoying it, and I hope they realize that winning out, or even just losing 1 game, is not a given.

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Oct 18, 2009 9:02 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cue Admiral Akbar here:

“IT’S A TRAP!”

If it's not too much trouble, search your soul--and then ask yourself if maybe I might have a point.

by The Director on Oct 18, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seemed like your post...

needed the illustration.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Oct 18, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you, gentlemen.

Sometime, I really have to learn how to post a pic.

No, don’t try and teach me right now. I’m incorrigible, a lost cause.

Also, if I ever learned how, I be forever on this site posting stupid pictures, and no one wants that.

If it's not too much trouble, search your soul--and then ask yourself if maybe I might have a point.

by The Director on Oct 18, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When you’re posting there’s this little tree thing on the far right. You click on it, and then you paste the URL into the prompt that appears and click “OK”

Voila.

DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?

by ReadingRambler on Oct 18, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Rambler...

did you post that pic of Pryor here because Pryor looks like the Admiral’s twin sibling? Or was that just a coincidence?

Of course, the Admiral would fumble less than Pryor, because of the Admiral’s 27-inch hands.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Oct 18, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Every game is a trap, because

everyone now knows that it is possible, reasonably possible, to go undefeated and get a shot at the Main Prize.

It took luck as well as talent to get here, so we have to enjoy it.

But every game is a trap because we can’t possibly ignore the fact that this is a once-per-generation thing, at best.

Mr. Boh Knows ...

by Bellanca on Oct 18, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ding Ding Ding

Bellanca hit the nail on the head. This IS a once in a generation thing, so I’m reminding myself to enjoy 7-0. I never talked shit to all the Penn State fans at my job. Maybe I should start.

by Duez I say on Oct 19, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is the difference...

I wouldn’t make a point to start talking crap to the PSU fans. However, if we beat OSU, I would start talking crap to them every day for at least a year. Holidays. Weekends. Vacations. All the time.

I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.

-- Judge Smails

by WaterlooChazz on Oct 19, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Penn State, as cautionary tale.

Last year Penn State came into Iowa City and thought, “well, if we just take care of business here….”

Of course, if we run the table we get all the rewards in the world. There is no scenario I see where we go undefeated and we are bumped by a one loss team for the NC game. The computers and the pollsters will not leave an undefeated Iowa team behind a one loss USC, Alabama or Florida or an undefeated Boise State or TCU. I DO see us not playing if Texas and Alabama or Florida both go undefeated though. That’s just how this stupid system works.

But, I’m not even worried in the slightest about all that. To many variables at this point. I want the Big Ten and so my best friend is Penn State. The Paternos play Michigan State and Ohio State, who both are sitting there with one loss. Poor Penn State is, in reality, 2 games behind us due to head to head. Everyone else has two losses.

Bottom line, this Michigan State game is huge because Ohio State is on the horizon. Such is the world of college football. Late season losses when you are playing well can kill you.

There are many scenarios where a two loss team wins the Big team though. (Imagine if PSU loses to Michigan this week…that really opens up the who league for wacky things).

This is fun.

"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz

by StoopsMyAss on Oct 18, 2009 9:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Holtz

After my earlier post, I almost swallowed my tongue listening to Lou Holtz of all people mention us in the same breath as Texas, Alabama, and Florida when he said ‘No onw deserves to be number 1. All four of them deserve to be number 4.’ A shockingly insightful statement.

Upon further thought, I realized that we do have an ‘ace in the hole’ an that we destroyed an SEC team in a bowl game last year. Given that, I agree there’s no way we go undefeated and don’t jump any/all 1 loss teams. Maybe we can just run the table, crush USC or Oregon in the Rose Bowl, and cause the sham that is the BCS to tilt and get a playoff system. You think the talking heads would stand for what happened to Auburn a few years ago happening again?

by benvious on Oct 18, 2009 11:14 AM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Spelling fails

and after reading, I have decided I can’t spell. Damnit.

by benvious on Oct 18, 2009 11:17 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

and there’s no chance for a playoff anytime soon.
What I’d love to see is a change in the polling system. Get rid of the coaches poll (again, not going to happen, I know), and take away the anonymous Harris polls. Pre-season perception is not the same as end of season reality.

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Oct 18, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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