In Retrospect, Nobody Could Have Seen This Coming
by Oops Pow Surprise on Oct 14, 2009 3:11 PM CDT
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Pop quiz, sex beasts: guess what school's fan wrote this to the local paper. Here's a hint: it starts with "M" and ends in "innesota":
While it is apparent that catering to the wealthy up in their enclosed, heated suites is valued by the university's administration, ignoring the necessities of a majority of the fan base seated in their exposed seating is unwise and shortsighted.
Below 40 degrees, the stadium is a cold place( brrrr!). There are no places to warm up, other than bathroom areas where traffic needs to flow, not be clogged with fans trying to find some heat. Space heaters strategically placed throughout the concourse would accommodate most fans, especially the young children who will one day be bringing their kids to games at the stadium.
As if it could be anywhere else.
Yes, apparently one outraged reader decided to tell the Minneapolis Star-Tribune all about how the common fan was being shit on, what with the new stadium being exposed to the elements. Seriously, though, who would have thought that an outdoor stadium in one of the most arctic BCS campuses would be a bad idea? Maybe they need a dome. How come nobody thought of a dome?
So, just to recap: September 2009: Minnesota opens a brand-new, outdoor stadium to fans' delight. October 2009: Fans complain about having an outdoor stadium in Minnesota.
Wait, excuse me, I'm sorry, Concerned MInnesota Fan has one more thing to add:
One other suggestion: more mini-donut stands, please!
For real. Give them heat and give them mini-donuts. And maybe a roof over their poor heads.
(Terrorist fist jab: frequent reader and self-loathing Gopher fan White Speed Receiver)
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At least the bathrooms are heated
That way, no one gets frost-bite when fornicating in them during the 4th quarter.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Oct 14, 2009 4:27 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
First thing, I thought of.
And did anyone else think said writer-inner was being clever when he used the words “flow” and “clogged” in reference to bathroom traffic.
People should remember that while they have the right to their opinion, they are not entitled to be taken seriously. --Bruce Bartlett
by tyger1147 on Oct 15, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing better...
…would be if someone who sat in the Press Box also wrote a letter complaining to the local paper that they are not allowed to have alcohol in their suite. Apparently the University needs to cater to everyone more in their design of the (insert euphemism for a financial institution that accepts, stores, and disburses cash).
On a more serious note, how are all the fans going to handle tailgating come November? I nearly got frost bite out in front of the Humpty Dump last year, but I wasn’t complaining (it could have been the Peppermint Schnapps helping).
They took the bar, the whole fucking bar!
by recoveringfratguy on Oct 14, 2009 4:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No Kidding
How dare that administration condone such blatant favoritism towards only the fans that help fund the athletics program by paying so much for those seats? I mean, how can they expect the majority of fans who live in Minnesota to actually pay money to go outside to watch a football game? I bet those administrators even have heat-diffusing devices in their place of work, just so they won’t have to be cold (brrrr!) when it gets below 40 for the first time in September.
Maybe they should petition to have football season earlier, like, before Gopher hybernation time.
That's great. Who are the Chefs?
by Give Eddie a Beer on Oct 14, 2009 4:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I talked to some cowworkers who were at the game last Saturday (Minny game)
and said the student section was MAYBE 1/2 full. That’s just a sad state of affairs. in fact, I gave my coworkers a hard time for being such pussies for starting tailgating only an hour before the game. There was no way to convince them to start any earlier, and they were given FOR FREE the ultra-expensive in-the-stadium parking pass.
Minny fans are just disappointing fans. Make fun of hoity-toity jNWU fans all you want, but I think Minny’s are worse. They have no FREAKING CLUE how Big Ten football, stadiums, and tailgating are actually done.
They hate Iowa fans for taking over all of the bars and tailgate spots before last year’s game – well arrive downtown more than two hours before kickoff and you might actually get a parking spot or table.
It’s especially sad because their program has a very rich history – 5 National Championships, Heisman winners, yada-yada-yada. But they aren’t fans in the truest sense. They’re more like casual observers.
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Oct 14, 2009 4:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"Make fun of hoity-toity jNWU fans all you want"
I will, just as soon as proof that they actually exist is found.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Oct 14, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We are...
The Few
The Proud
never mind, somebody’s using that one already.
by Purple Flag on Saturday on Oct 15, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the 3/4 empty on game day?
Sorry, thought I’d finish that one for you.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Oct 15, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll give them a pass
on not understanding tailgating, they truly don’t understand how it’s done. It’s been too long, and it’s just not a college sports town. But they better figure it out quick. If nothing else, us and the Wisky fans will invade and show them.
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Oct 14, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Their idea of "tailgating" is a bit different
Last year I was lucky enough to find one small parking lot a few blocks from the stadium where tailgating was allowed. I went across the street to piss in some sort of spaghetti restaurant packed full of Gophers loading up on a nice pasta meal before the game.
Bar area: full of Hawkeyes.
Bathroom: A couple other guys in black and gold whom I shotgunned a beer with.
by Hank Thrasher on Oct 15, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bathroom
Did you happen to run into this chic?
"For me the game wasn’t grounded in reality. It was about the uniform you put on that turned you into a warrior. It was about the mythology of the battle, the victory, the defeat, the struggle." - Mike Reid, PSU '69
by jtothep on Oct 15, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you're which blacked out face?
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Oct 16, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
6 National Titles, but...
The only thing I can really argue with is the point about the student section. It was about 3/4 full.
Other than that, it’s fucking embarrassing because it’s true. But on the bright side, I’ve been able to get some tailgating passes pretty cheap, because people are already selling them because apparently it gets chilly outside during football season. I can’t wait to see what happens when we actually get a cold game. My money is on an Iowa game at the end of the schedule one of these years.
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Oct 14, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should have googled that NC stat
Anyway – like any fan base there are some true fans – like WhiteSpeedReceiver here. But the people who tailgate for the St. Paul Saints baseball games do a much better job than any other sports team in town. That’s just wrong.
Nothing that a few successful seasons and time to get acclimated to the outdoors won’t cure, right?
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Oct 14, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Six national titles...
….but basically none in the last 48 years. Still, that’s their mantra when speaking to Hawk fans, so let’s all applaud their success despite its antiquity.
One Heisman winner—that 99% of fans can’t recall the name of (the fact that it’s such an ordinary name doesn’t help).
And a fanbase that is, apparently, surprised that it might be cold outside in Minnesota during football season.
Fortunately, they have all those FREEZING Packer fans to commiserate with about the cold!
Except for the fact that Packer fans EAT THAT COLD SHIT UP. They LOVE the cold. They KNOW that that which does not kill them makes them stronger. They KNOW that cold turns the testes of their opponents into cream o’wheat. I went to Lambeau for a Pack-Vikings game a few years back and it was about zero out and the Pack fans LOVED THAT SHIT LIKE A NEWBORN BABY—a cute newborn baby, not the Winston Churchill kind, with crap all over its face and a swollen pug nose.
Guess that’s the difference between some fans and others, huh?
If it's not too much trouble, search your soul--and then ask yourself if maybe I might have a point.
by The Director on Oct 14, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They have a Heisman winner?
Who?
DO YOU HAVE PRIDE, DANNY?
by ReadingRambler on Oct 14, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The running one who died from cancer (and has been, I shit you not, nominated for freaking Sainthoood), not the sacking one.
Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Oct 14, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cowworkers?
Were you out on the dairy farm?
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Oct 14, 2009 4:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lack of "edit comment" feature strikes again!
Minnesota fans clearly piss me off, though.
Example: A buddy scored 4 tickets to this weekend’s Vikings/Ravens game, and I am struggling to convince them that meeting up an hour before the game is extremely lame and borders on malfeasance. If you can’t do a proper pre-game Bloody Mary with 3 or 4 chasers, then what the hell is the point of even bothering with going to the game at all?
I’m not even a Vikings fan (nor Ravens) but think that this game would be worth leaving the couch and the beers in my fridge for. Let’s do it right, though.
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Oct 14, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pot. Kettle. Black.
Kinnick Stadium failed to sell out for just the second time in 40 games, and the weather was a likely factor. The temperatures hovered in the low 50s—well below normal for Iowa City in early October—and those swirling winds made it feel much colder.
Source: Yahoo!
by Cairo on Oct 14, 2009 4:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kinnick still would have had approximately 25,000 more people than Minny in a non sell-out game.
It’s not 110,000, but you get the point.
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Oct 14, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, come on.
It was below freezing by the end of the Michigan game last weekend, and snowed all morning. Tailgaters were out from 7 AM in it, drinking beers, grilling meat and playing cornhole. I took the opportunity to smoke a 9 lb pork butt (was on the smoker for > 8 hours, while I was out in the elements drinking cold, refreshing beer for the entirety)
I’ve scraped ice off my car to go tailgating on many occasions, and the lots and stands fill up just the same.
Granted, tailgaters will set up propane heaters, fire pits and big tents once it gets REALLY cold. But the fact that Iowa didn’t sell >70K tickets (for the second time in 40 games, many of which, I assure you, had much less comfortable weather conditions) for a non-BCS opponent doesn’t really justify any of the comments made by above Minnesota fan.
Hey, kettle, your fans are pussies.
Sincerely, stainless steel.
Brunettes not fighter jets
by rockyh on Oct 14, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I miss the old 67,000 seat configuration, though… I remember watching people take mudslides down the grassy areas in the north end zone in the 80s, and getting hauled off by the cops. It was awesome.
Plus it was really hard for them to track down the extra point footballs when there were no nets… I think it was a Minny game, where we were stomping the hell out of them, that people started passing the football around the stadium… and booing the guys chasing the ball (or the fan that finally turned it over).
by Leftcoast Hawk on Oct 14, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, if YAHOO said it...
…the you KNOW it’s the truth!
Oh, and that game that did not sell out was Arkansas State, BTW. Guess that had nothing to do with the reason why, I guess.
Few teams will sell you a game against a “lose-lose” lower conference opponent in the middle of their conference season. And yet still about 68,000 showed up.
If it's not too much trouble, search your soul--and then ask yourself if maybe I might have a point.
by The Director on Oct 14, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You, sir, offend me.
…by calling me a Minnesota fan. I’m a Nittany Lion fan. Perhaps I should have stayed out of this, but it’s Gopher week in State College and I like the hate.
Incidentally, PSU sold out its game against Eastern Illinois last weekend. Temps were in the low 50s too.
by Cairo on Oct 14, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, you guys are one of my favorite teams as long as you aren’t playing us.
Iowa and PSU fans are everywhere. I have a good bud who just got back from a week in England and he and his wife went to Paris. They’re standing on the Eiffel Tower, and bump into another American, and somehow, the topic of college football comes up. His wife mentions he’s a huge Iowa fan, and this young woman goes “Hey, you just beat us. I graduated from Penn State.”
When they were in London, they stayed fairly close to Hyde Park, and he saw a woman out jogging one morning wearing a Hawkeyes t-shirt.
Small world, dude.
I’m all for your team doing a serious shit clearing beat down on the Goofers. :)
by Leftcoast Hawk on Oct 14, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A PSU fan defending a Minnesota "fan?"
Sorry to offend, honestly didn’t see that one coming.
Brunettes not fighter jets
by rockyh on Oct 14, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
after the past 2 years
and really the past, what, 7 or 8 games we’ve played each other, I’m really surprised we’re not one of your favorite teams even when we are playing you.
by The JuggerNitt on Oct 16, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahem.
failed to sell out for just the second time in 40 games
Sounds like a pretty damn good record of success to me.
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Oops Pow Surprise on Oct 14, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, lest we forget, the opponent Ark. State
1) used all of probably 50 tickets; and
2) was not exactly a huge draw.
Should they rely on the opponent to sell out no, but it helps if they use somewhere close to their allotment.
Along those lines, the only other game was the Purdue game last year, which was colder than crap. Also, if memory serves me correctly, not only did Purdue not use their allotment, but they didn’t release the tickets until a day or two before the game, thus preventing any possible chance of a sell out.
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by three and out the kok story on Oct 14, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
55 - 0
Should be the slope of the new roof
by ChryslerKinnick on Oct 14, 2009 5:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d much rather endure a cold than hot game; I’ve seen games in extreme conditions on both ends. You rarely hear of football players dropping over dead from heat exhaustion (or fans) when the temp is 50F or lower.
:)
by Leftcoast Hawk on Oct 14, 2009 6:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously?
You’re in Minnesota and you’re complaining about 40 degrees? I grew up in Minnesota. 40 degrees ain’t cold. You know what I call it when it’s 40 degrees at the crack of dawn on the day of a 3:30 game? Fucking perfect, that’s what.
Gopher fans have gone soft after so many years in the Dome, I guess.
by SpartanDan on Oct 14, 2009 10:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm still trying to comprehend the idea of Minnesotans complaining about cold weather.
It’s almost as dumb as we Mississippians bitchin’ about hurricaines. You know they’re there and you know what they do.
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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Oct 15, 2009 10:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Twins are moving into an outdoor baseball stadium this coming April
For years, people have been bitching about how shitty the Dome was for baseball (it was) and that it had the worst sightlines ever for baseball (it did) and that it was so fucking asinine to walk inside on a glorious Saturday night in July for a baseball game (it is and always will be).
So…what do you think these dumbasses up here are complaining about? Yep, no roof over the new ballpark because it might get to 40 degrees while watching baseball in April and October. And these are the same people who will willingly walk out on a frozen lake in motherfucking January to sit on an empty bucket to catch one pound bullshit rock fish.
I’ve been up here now for five years and I have yet to figure out the weather hypocrisy these people clearly exhibit.
by Twin Cities Hawk on Oct 15, 2009 7:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey hey hey! Don't base the whole Minnesota fanbase on the opinion of one outspoken (and nutless) person.
The guy has likely never experienced an outdoor game, suffering from ADD (Acute Dome Detachment).
Personally, Being I grew up here, I don’t mind the cold at all, and I think it’s awesome having a nice warm liquid-blanket on and knowing I should be colder.
The metrodome and downtown atmosphere was so stale for college ball that a lot of us will need some time to adjust to a new setting, although I don’t know how much good it is to tell you guys this; Minnesota hating is your nature, after all.
Just give it some time, and for the love of roses, don’t compare us to the jNWU fanbase.
P.S. I don’t know where the insane info. about the student section last week, but the whole bottom level and more than half of the upper deck was filled, so it was over 3/4 full. How do people get this information??
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by buddylee853 on Oct 16, 2009 11:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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