It's Not Plagiarism If You Link To It Can't Believe All This Traffic
by Hawkeye State on Oct 13, 2009 8:00 AM CDT
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Football News and News-Like Substances. A metric fuckton of football developments on an unusually busy Monday:
- Tony Moeaki was named Big Ten Offensive Player of the Week (not to be confused with Big Ten "Offensive" Player of the Week, won for the 2,364th consecutive week by Michigan State fullback Blackface Hitler), after his six catch, 105 yard, two touchdown performance Saturday night. Moeaki is the first Iowa player to win Offensive Player of the Week since Shonn Greene took it home for Purdue. When reached for comment, Moeaki said, "I'm surprised and humbled to be named OH GOD MY LEG WHAT HAPPENED TO MY LEG"
- From the Caring is Creepy file, Iowa picked up two additional defensive line commits over the weekend. Donovan Johnson (3* Rivals, 1* Scout, 76/100 ESPN), a 6'2", 245 lb. defensive end from Arlington, TX, chose Iowa over Nebraska, Purdue, ISU, Kansas State, and TCU. He also rocked some awesome threads in his pre-Nash Bridges phase. Carl Davis (3* Rivals, 3* Scout, 75/100 ESPN) is already pushing 3 bills and will be a run-stuffing defensive tackle.
- Riley Reiff is now your starting left guard, replacing Julian Vandervelde. Reiff spent some time at guard during August camp, but was sent back to second-string tackle for more seasoning. He was more than capable as Bulaga's replacement through most of September, though, and definitely deserves a chance, especially given Vandervelde's pathetic borderline criminal lackluster performances over the last two weeks. No other new developments in this week's depth chart, aside from the typical shuffle of backup linemen.
- Bowl Championship Series rankings don't come out until after next week, but BCS Guru (usually a pretty good estimate of where we would be) ranks Iowa 10th. As we all know, the human polls are slightly dismissive of the Hawks' chances, but the computers love us; Iowa ranks first, third, fourth, seventh, and eighth in the five BCS computers currently publishing rankings. Iowa's poll average is third, behind only Florida and Alabama.
"Phoning It In" Doesn't Even Begin to Describe It. We've laid off Pat Harty lately, preferring to let his inartful laziness speak for itself. We didn't even mention it when Pharty called an Illinois high school coach, mistook said Illinois coach's use of the term "U of I" as short for Iowa rather than Illinois, thought for a moment that the coach was telling him the Iowa coaching staff told a 4-star tight end recruit that he should cancel his visit to Iowa City and honor his verbal commitment to Ron Zook, then took not one, but two separate posts to his completely inaccessible blog to futilely attempt to rectify the mistake.
But nothing Harty has written in his illustrious career even begins to approach his latest Pulitzer-worthy column, a painfully beautiful piece of journalism that calls to mind such classics as Upton Sinclair's The Jungle, Nellie Bly's work on insane asylums, or the leprechaun in Mobile, Alabama. Tell us, oh great one, what a day is like for a prestigious Press-Citizen sportswriter:
10:51 a.m. -- ESPN updates the status of Florida quarterback Tim Tebow for the 98th time since Tebow suffered a concussion against Kentucky two weeks earlier.
12:37 p.m. -- ESPN updates the status of Tebow for the 99th time without still confirming anything [Ed. note -- Thanks to Pat, we have no idea how it feels to read something 99 times without ever seeing any actual reporting] ...
5:17 p.m. -- My car is stuck on Melrose Avenue behind a car driven by an elderly man who is trying to go straight despite being in the right-turn only lane.
5:23 -- The man driving the car in front of me is still trying to go straight despite still being in the right-turn only lane.
5:26 -- The man is rewarded for his persistence by finally making it through the intersection....
7:31 p.m. -- Fans cheer even louder when Stanzi connects with a wide open Moeaki for a 34-yard touchdown pass with 9 minutes, 20 seconds left in the first quarter.
7:32 p.m. -- Former Iowa sports information director George Wine points out that the first quarter is not even half over and Stanzi already has thrown two touchdown passes, albeit one to Michigan....
9:41 p.m. -- I tell the person sitting next to me that Lowe's fumble recovery could prove to be the turning point in the game. The person looks at me as if to say tell me something I don't know Captain Obvious....
10:30 p.m. -- Fans rush the field as the game ends with Iowa having defeated Michigan for just fifth time in Iowa City.
10:45 p.m. -- I breath a sigh of relief after filing my column barely making deadline.
The Press-Citizen's website commenters, always interested in finding out that the top sportswriter for the biggest newspaper in Iowa City sits around his house watching ESPN all day rather than doing any actual reporting, arrives at the stadium an hour before kickoff for the biggest home game of the season, is befuddled by Melrose Avenue traffic, gets all his information from George Wine and the SID instead of asking any questions, and makes borderline retarded statements to those around him, are appreciative of Pharty's effort:
What powerful prose. You made me feel like I was sitting right next to you. This may be the journalistic highpoint of your career. I'm thinking Pulitzer for sure! Having used up most of your creative writing on this one, I suggest you give that same pressbox seat to someone else for the next home game.
If the PC is looking to reduce costs they should start with Pat Harty's salary.
Wow...real in depth coverage of the big game.
When whackjob Press-Citizen commenters have turned against you, there is nothing left to lose. Pat Harty, ladies and gentlemen: Not exactly a bastion of journalistic integrity.
Footnotes:
- Iowa baseball goes 1-1 in its fall games, beating DMACC (that's Des Moines Area Community College to the uninitiated) and losing to...cough...Iowa Central. In other news, Iowa Baseball is not very good at the present time. Which distinguishes it from all other times in no way whatsoever.
- Returning Big Ten heavyweight wrestling champion and NCAA fourth-place finisher Dan Erekson will miss 2-3 months with a torn pectoral muscle. That will likely keep him out for the pivotal Iowa-ISU dual, but should get him back in time for Big Ten season.
- Bret Bielema discusses the Iowa defensive line and linebackers. The takeaway? He likes Pat Angerer and has clearly not read our linemen's biographies recently. In other news, backup Wisconsin halfback Zach Brown is questionable for next week after sustaining a concussion in Columbus Saturday.
- Speaking of concussions, The New Yorker's Malcolm Gladwell pens a disturbing article on the effect of repeated concussions on athletes, comparing retired football stars to Michael Vick's pit bulls with horrific effect. It's longish, but it's completely worth the time.
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Harty > Keeler
FINALLY! I thought I was starting to think I was the only one who thought that about Harty. I will admit, I am biased on the Gazette writers, mainly because the embrace and engage. Harty is good, at times, but other times I wonder why I even bother reading.
I think Keeler is worse, though. The former Wildcat loves to be negative on the Hawks.
by hawknerd on Oct 13, 2009 8:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Herpes>Genital Warts
Keeler compared Denard Robinson’s arm to Brett Farve in a positive way in his column the other day. They only thing they have in common is throwing interceptions in crucial situations.
I check cheddar like a food inspector
by SpanishJohnny on Oct 13, 2009 8:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"throwing interceptions in crucial situations"
That’s what they call “just having fun out there”.
by Yinka Double Dare on Oct 13, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WATI
Pat Harty has a blog? Seriously? Who knew?
Also, I’m sure everyone caught this, but if not – here it is again…
DJK’s not to subtle jab at Pat Harty:
Video courtesy of Marc Morehouse, question courtesy of Rob Howe
by storminspank on Oct 13, 2009 8:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"to" "so" whatever...
Point remains.
by storminspank on Oct 13, 2009 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hadn't watched the video
That is genius. Well played, Mr. Johnson-Popodopolous. Get this man some playing time.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Hawkeye State on Oct 13, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to say
I like DJK. He’s hubristic in all the ways I like. He really thinks he’s special but he is happy to give those answers that Ferentz wants to hear. His wink, wink ironical delivery is just right—not so arrogant that you find yourself disliking him, and yet not so adoring that you think he’s a sap. I’m sure that drives the ubber modest Ferentz nuts. Sure, a team full of DJK’s could be exhausting for a coaching staff and I am not calling for that. But, this guy strikes me as thinking he is special, and wanting to be special. He is dressed like a banker in that video, whereas all the other guys are wearing shirts that are one neck size too small and ties from the mid-80s (which I also like…they are lunch pail). DJK wants to look polished and frankly, I can see that football is not his whole identity. I think the teams with the best chemistry have a mix of guys who create a fullness for the team.
As a friend of mine taught me, music is best when it is slightly out of tune. Otherwise, we would let computers play the perfect notes (and of course, when music is played entirely on a computer, it lacks any soul, life)
Count me in on the DJK fan club emails.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
by StoopsMyAss on Oct 13, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like him too.
He’s flashy and a little cocky, sure – he should be a little cocky. Or very confident, anyway. He’s also clearly very, very smart, as evidenced by his well-spoken manner and penchant for extemporaneous speech. He delivers one-liners with taste and subtelty, and thinks before he speaks. He is polite, gracious, quick to compliment & credit his teammates and comes off as much, much more mature than his peers, and than his actual age would indicate.
I think this tends to kind of intimidate some people and is sometimes perceived as cockier/flashier/Ochocinco-ier than it actually is, especially given the… um, cultural differences that may exist between he and the local media & most Hawkeye fans.
As for KF and the staff, I think they would probably prefer that he be cut of the one-neck-size-too-small/lunchpail cloth too, and just toe the company line and repeat Standard Generic Interview Answers 3-6b (7, 7a & 7b after a loss) just like everyone else, but that’s just not who he is. And I’m glad. I like that he lets his personality, wit and intelligence show through. If I want to listen to painfully dull boilerplate responses I’ll ask Trey Stross.
I dunno… I mean, Angerer and Vandevelde (and Bulaga, to a slightly lesser extent) also give witty, non-standard, intelligent interview answers and don’t curb their opinions or personalities too much, and they don’t catch any flack from the media or from fans. And as I recall (and I could be a little off here), Tim Dwight was cockier than just about any player ever to don the black and gold, and people LOVED him.
Now, obviously a lot of this should be taken with a grain of salt, as like all of you, I only see DJK in interviews and on the field, and have no idea what he’s like in practice, how coachable he is, what kind of student he is, etc, etc. But, it certainly seems to me like The DJK Thing is really not much more than an issue of his being hurt on and off and not getting the practice reps KF feels he needs to be getting, and any subsequent comments he (DJK) has made have been blown waaaaaaaay out of proportion and read into waaaaay too much.
by Bucketochicken on Oct 13, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a fine line
Once you veer off the boilerplate, it’s a short trip to saying things that come off much worse in print and can come back to haunt you. That said, I do love DJK, for the same reasons you mention. Nothing pisses me off more than when an athlete/coach gives and answer that only relates to the question because he manages to incorporate 3 words from the question in the answer. I like a guy who actually listens to, thinks about and then answers the question asked honestly.
And I think it’s interesting that as Mr. Ochicken mentions, no one gets upset when Vandevelde or Angerer give non-standard answers, but go apeshit when the non-Iowan DJK says something a little off-script. DJK is cut from a different cloth, and we should embrace and welcome it, god knows his performance on the field almost always justifies it; and not just the obvious ways, watch the video of Moeaki’s 2nd TD again, Reisner got a lot of credit, justifiably, for being downfield and blocking, but DJK was also doing an amazing job of sealing off the backside and keeping the CB/Safety from stopping Moeaki.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Oct 13, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No lie, I spent a good five minutes after that play talking to anyone around me who would listen about how awesome DJK’s blocking was on that play. No one cared, sadly.
His blocking in general is really, really good and hardly ever gets talked about. Watch almost any of Greene’s long runs of last year, and you’ll almost inevitably see DJK making an awesome downfield block.
by NorseHawk on Oct 13, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brodell was really good at that too
I know its something the coaches really stress and often plays a large factor in who does, or does not, play.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Oct 13, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keenan Davis
will be that good as well.
"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me
by BStylin Hawkye on Oct 13, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh absolutely -
“going rogue” in terms of deviating from The Script certainly has it’s pitfalls, but DJK thus far has been smart enoug and savvy enough to avoid them. Which makes me like and respect him that much more.
by Bucketochicken on Oct 13, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"but go apeshit when the non-Iowan DJK says something a little off-script"
what you mean to say is the non-white DJK…it’s okay to make this racial.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
by StoopsMyAss on Oct 13, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who goes "apeshit" about DJK's comments?
I sure don’t. I like DJL plenty, I think Angerer’s hilarious, I love Edds KF impression, so I’m not sure why people think it’s DJK’s interviews that get him in the doghouse.
I’m guessing it’s because of his habit—rumored, but basically confirmed—of being late to practices/functions, and general lackadaisical attitude during practice (guessing here, but not without reason).
I don’t think KF et Co bear any “racist” bias toward DJK, and to even hint so is dangerous territory. When it comes to the media, I don’t think they do, either. They’re searching for reasons as to why one of the most talented players of any color somehow never sees the field, and their minds wander into doghouse territory.
If Angerer suddenly began seeing only 10 plays a game, all in the second half, the same sorts of rumors would begin, believe you me.
If it's not too much trouble, search your soul--and then ask yourself if maybe I might have a point.
by The Director on Oct 13, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me be clear
This shit is NOT racial. I am not accusing the coaching staff of anything, racism least of all. I think the problem here was as mentioned above, (1) DJK was more injured than was generally let on and (2) and some minor problems with attitude/practice effort which some in the local media tended to make more out of than was warranted coughHartycough. These weren’t racially motivated, just somewhat irresponsible given the lack of verifiable information out there. And we, and I, are just as guilty of it – how else to explain our scrutizing every utterance this summer/fall camp for clues as to why DJK was listed as 2nd string.
Anyway, I’m just happy that he seems to have found his way back into the coaches’ good graces, we are a much more dynamic team with DJK on the field than off.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Oct 13, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was really responding to StoopsMyAss's post above mine...
…where he says it’s “okay to make this racial.”
Well, I think it’s dangerous to make it racial. Because it’s not racial. Maybe it’s people engaging in rumor-mongering more than they should, but hell they do that with any player that has some “mystery” going, up to and including James Ferentz (behavior) and Brian Ferentz (living situation).
And like you, I’m sure we can all agree on this: we need DJK out there catching 30 yard passes on 3rd and 26!
If it's not too much trouble, search your soul--and then ask yourself if maybe I might have a point.
by The Director on Oct 13, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoops....
I see that my cheeky remark was taken very literally. Such is the state of affairs with a black man in the White House I guess, everyone is a bit more touchy about racial discussions and “on guard.”
But, let’s be honest, DJK has somehow earned a reputation for being a bit too full of himself and flashy, as well as lazy-ish and (fill-in the blank with any word(s) that means not hard working). Back in the day the code word for that was “uppity” and now the code word is “character issues.” Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t recall reading any articles about white players having “character issues.”
Let me make this part clear, I do not see this as a coaching issue because no coach has been quoted saying he has character issues. It has been a few media reports whose attempted to interpret the mysterious drop on the depth chart this year that has suggested that. See link below as a prime example:
http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/2511/iowa-s-djk-well-aware-of-depth-chart-debate
I love the way the kid handles the media though. He has the perfect tone. But, no, I was not writting a big rant on racial harmony in Iowa or slanted coverage by Iowa media. I was just being funny—but all funny things need a kernal of tuth to be truley funny. The issue I was drawing attention to with my offhanded comment, is just your garden variety nook and cranny super low-level racism that almost no one even cares to comment on anymore.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
by StoopsMyAss on Oct 13, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Tony Moeaki needs to get with the program.
by JamesMouton on Oct 13, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Matt Roth ever get with the program?
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
by StoopsMyAss on Oct 14, 2009 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nile Kinnick needs to get with the program.
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
by Hawkeye State on Oct 14, 2009 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Roth was left off of an ABC graphic
during the game. It listed Michigan and Iowa alumni playing on 10/12 Monday Night Football. I remember Roth was having troubles in the preseason and was on the Tuna’s shit list, but I’m really too lazy to go look up if he’s playing or not.
by Duez I say on Oct 14, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Bret Bielema presser...
is, you know, unreadable, you know. Wow can that guy not talk at all or what? And how bout this gem:
Q: Does this look like a typical Iowa defensive line?
A: It does, unfortunately, yes. They are strong, they’re gifted, kind of a mix, you know, of guys. There’s guys from Iowa, there’s guys from Minnesota, there’s, I believe, a Texas player in there, and just, you know, there’s guys from all over the country, but in their uniforms they look all the same.
Well, shit, Bret..thats the crazy thing about uniforms. Seems like every time people put them, they look all uniform and shit. Weird.
This guy is a huge douche.
"I'm not doing any good back here."
by Hawkaloogie on Oct 13, 2009 9:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
When I look at this Wisconsin team I see
our Iowa team of 2008. There are similarities. They switched QB’s when everyone thought the more experienced guy was a shoo in, they have a similar phiosophy about their TEs, etc.
But, there is one big difference. Last year we were never out of a game. Sure, we lost close games that some may think we should have won; and we won one game we maybe should have lost. This year Wisky has won close games but that Ohio State game reveals the cavernous difference between KF and the Iowa staff and BB and his staff. For Wisky to have dominated that line of scrimmage as they did and get destroyed on the scoreboard like that is a red flag to me.
So the question I am wrestling with is this, are we their Penn State game? Maybe.
But, BB strikes me as an odd coach. He is effective on the one hand in developing a very discernable team identity. But, his teams have a history of huge dissapointing losses and shocking displays of in-game boneheadedness (I am thinking of the Cal Poly game from last year). From a talent perspective they may be the second best team in the conference or the second worst teamin the conference. They are like that Seinfeld episode about the girl Jerry is dating that from one angle looks stunningly beautiful, and from another is nasty….every time Jerry looks at her he sees something different.
That’s kind of where I am at with Wisconsin.
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
by StoopsMyAss on Oct 13, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
God I love Malcolm Gladwell.
I keep checking his “blog” for new articles, but they’re months in development. And well worth the wait.
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Oct 13, 2009 9:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Go to gladwell.com and under THe New Yorker Archive
you can download a PDF (or just read online) the 1999 article he wrote for The New Yorker called “The Six Degrees of Lois Weisberg.” It was MG’s anticipating what we now see with the whole social networking stuff (facebook, etc.). He built the article off of Stanford sociologist Mark Granovetter’s research on Social Network Theory.
A) it is a fun read
B) it shows how prescient Gladwell was
C) it is good stuff to know in lay terms
Enjoy!
"I think it's safe to say our concerns are many." -- Kirk Ferentz
by StoopsMyAss on Oct 13, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will do.
I need a new Gladwell book to read for each winter vacation. Some people save a trashy book for the beach – I save up Gladwells.
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Oct 13, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I take it you already read Outliers then since it came out before last winter?
I do the same kind of thing — on the beach on my honeymoon my wife I think was reading Harry Potter books. During that trip I plowed through The Tipping Point, Freakonomics, and The Audacity of Hope.
by Yinka Double Dare on Oct 13, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Outliers was my honeymoon book
read it on the beach of San Pedro island in Belize. La Isla Bonita and Gladwell go hand in hand, no?
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Oct 13, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel morally tested by much of this detailed brain injury research
I suppose I knew of the effects before, but hearing these personal stories like Turley’s and Romanowski’s gives me pause. How do I reconcile this cognitive dissonance?
by Eubanks on Oct 13, 2009 10:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cross your fingers and hope that the NFL does something? I mean, I guess you can write letters to the editor and such when they publish something that shows the old, bad attitude on concussions, but it really comes down to the medical staffs and the players themselves being honest about their symptoms.
The problem is the culture of football pushes against what needs to be done — players don’t want to be honest about their symptoms because they’re expected by their teammates to play, the old “rub some dirt on it” attitude. It’s probably going to have to start all the way at the bottom, at the youth football and high school level, where it isn’t seen as “being a pussy” or something to admit that your head hurts and that maybe you shouldn’t be playing.
Until that happens though, this is just going to keep happening. The concussion-reducing helmets can’t prevent all concussions, and that assumes that all players even wear them. Baseball players won’t wear them because they think they look dumb (David Wright wears one now after he had a concussion, and honestly, it really does look kinda ridiculous on him, but they apparently help a lot).
by Yinka Double Dare on Oct 13, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball players don't need concussion reducing helmets
by Duez I say on Oct 14, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I'm sure nothing bad can come from getting hit in the head with a 90+ MPH pitch
by NorseHawk on Oct 14, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duez just means that
“There’s no concussing in baseball!”
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Oct 14, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And obviously, even if the culture changes that’s only going to reduce the incidence of problems later in life for football players. The NFL is going to be brutal no matter what, the guys are just too freakishly huge and fast to avoid it when contact happens so much on every play. I guess in the future at least everyone going in will know of the true risks as opposed to before where it either wasn’t known or was at the very least not talked about.
So I guess the other thing you can do is keep your kids (current or future) from playing football, at least not past high school or so. Unless you want to give them a crazy name and make them punters. Punters probably don’t have this problem.
by Yinka Double Dare on Oct 13, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure anything you proposed removes the dissonance
I am morally against people recieving blunt trauma to the head, but cheer collisions in football. I guess maybe I’ll have to immerse myself in something else. I hear that Hawkeye basketball squad’s gonna be a powerhouse this year, right?
by Eubanks on Oct 13, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of blunt trauma to the head
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Oct 13, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a scary article, to be sure
I knew about the cumulative nature of concussions, but not the danger from the cumulative effects of the “smaller” collisions. Short of banning the sport, though, what are the possible solutions?
I assume everybody noticed the mention of Wally Hilgenberg?
by Bluzmn on Oct 13, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
GQ
had an excellent article on this subject recently. It was long as hell, and I can’t remember exactly all of the details, but the proof was pretty clear. Dr. Omalu researched something like 50 football brains and found the same thing. Basically coming to the conclusion that it could, in all actuality, manifest itself in pyschopants behavior.
by TAMPAHAWK on Oct 13, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
for example,
chugging glue. That one stuck out to me.
by TAMPAHAWK on Oct 13, 2009 3:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait, are you not supposed to do that?
(tries to wipe mouth)
(gets arm stuck)
shit
I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks
by Oops Pow Surprise on Oct 14, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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