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The Takeaway: Michigan

Iowa's Tony Moeaki (81) runs for a 34-yard touchdown reception in the first quarter of this NCAA college football game against Michigan, Saturday, Oct. 10, 2009, in Iowa City, Iowa. (AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall)

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4 months ago: Iowa's Tony Moeaki (81) runs for a 34-yard touchdown reception in the first quarter of this NCAA college football game against Michigan, Saturday, Oct. 10, 2009, in Iowa City, Iowa. (AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall)

Sure, Iowa just won a slugfest with Michigan, 30-28. But how much do we really know? What was really important about beating Michigan? What does it all mean, Basil? The Takeaway has the answer.

Hey Ricky: Cut that out. Iowa did win, of course, and sandwiched between MIchigan's two scores was a 30-14 drubbing that could have been worse. But holy smokes, is Ricky Stanzi ever trying to raise peoples' blood pressure. For the second straight week, Stanzi threw what we considered his worst, most definitive, Stanziest of the STANZIBALLs, this one a game-opener to Donovan Warren who, with a different set of rules, could have crawled into the end zone unmolested.

It's absolutely worth pointing out, of course, that from that point on, Stanzi put together a solid performance while Tate Forcier was effectively bitchmade by the Iowa defense - making the Hawkeyes 3-3 on bitchmaking whenever Shaun Prater's in the lineup. No coincidence, that.

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That all said, Stanzi's antics have now directly cost the Hawkeyes a touchdown in three of the last four games, a Jarrett Lee-like display that ended a whole lot worse for LSU last season than it has for Iowa thus far. In those three games, each of whom was an unranked opponent now and at kickoff, the average margin of victory has been five points. Obviously, you can't take points off the board in the middle of the game and expect the rest of it to play out exactly the same, but if Iowa wins all three of  those games by an average of 12 points instead, we've got a much better comfort level and maaaaybe a better ranking thus far. Probably a moot point unless Iowa wins in Columbus, but something worth pointing out all the same.

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Ta-ta, streak. Whatever. It was pointed out before the game that despite Iowa's impressive streak of 33 quarters without giving up a score, the Hawkeyes' rush defense isn't really that great; they were 50th in the nation coming into the MIchigan game, and the 195 yards they allowed on the ground probably didn't help matters that much.

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Sure enough, in the first quarter, Brandon Minor punched one home from inside the 5 yard line, and that was that. Michigan scored twice more on the ground, which is overkill guys, because come on, the streak's already done. There's little shame in giving up 195 rushing yards to Michigan, though, considering how helpless Robinson and Forcier were made to look in the aerial attack. 319 yards on 68 plays, after all, isn't that shabby a performance.

Now that the streak is gone, then, we can look at the Iowa rush defense without that veneer of impenetrability that the overall stats belay even while the streak was alive. The Hawkeyes still struggle against mobile quarterbacks, which is probably in some part due to the linebackers' responsibilities far away from the line of scrimmage and in some part to more easily favorable matchups when a rush play isn't automatically 9 players blocking 11. This is an enviable situation, mind you, but Iowa hasn't had that kind of personnel since Brad Banks. Oh well.

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Also, the linebackers' lateral quickness leaves a little bit to be desired.

 

Speaking of the rush, hello half of the state of Michigan: if Michigan's game plan was explicitly "Make Stanzi beat us," they went about it the correct way. Adam Robinson and Brandon Wegher were effectively minimized as threats, combining for 91 yards on 23 carries. Worse, the two garnered only three first downs on the ground (all Robinson in the third quarter), with Stanzi registering three of his own. That's not exactly the type of production that usually leads to Iowa scoring 30 points.

Fortunately, with Michigan putting 11 players, 4 couches, 3 cheerleaders, and Sad Michigan Girl in the box, that left the secondary very susceptible to big plays, and Moeaki's delay routes as the receivers ran off coverage led to two easy, easy touchdowns, the second of which accounted for Iowa's last points of the day. This forces us to put 4 1/2 words together that we're not really comfortable saying: I have swine's flu Nice job, Ken O'Keefe. Okay, that's that, let's move on.

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Oh, and KOK deserves credit for this one too. Good show, old bean.

 

Opportunities lost? Yeah, we've both got them, so shut up: Maize-n-Brew published an abortion of a recap titled "Michigan defeats Michigan, Iowa something something." Actually, we stopped reading at about the third letter in the third word of the title, because holy go fuck yourself are you wrong. For example:

Team A: 367 yards, 2/3 RZ opportunities for 10 points, 6 points scored off 5 TOs
Team B: 319 yards, 3/3 RZ opportunities for 21 points, 7 points scored off 1 TOs

It would appear, then, that Michigan did not take points off their board and that they were fortunate to be within two points by the end of the game. In fact, at no point in the second half did Michigan have the ball on Iowa's side of the field with a one-possession deficit. They were never in position to win, and they lost by a deceptively close score. To insinuate otherwise is a fool's occupation.

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It's too bad Marvin didn't score

So that we could have seen the “Marvin McNutt’s in ya mouth” tag.

by The Mexican't on Oct 12, 2009 8:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you Ken O'Keefe?

Maybe – but those were Stanzi audibles from what I read – so thank you Stanzi and his game prep?

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Oct 12, 2009 8:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is it just me

Or has the media been, for the most part, strangely quiet regarding RichRod imploding emotionally and benching Tate Forcier out of anger late in the game?

I know that Adam Rittenberg covered this in his blog and the Detroit Free Press have asked the same question, but I guess I thought there would be more criticism from other major media members and outlets, something I would have expected considering that this was a nationally televised game, Forcier doesn’t think each time he gets the snap “run first, pass second,” and in due time RobPat will become the new QB every announcer verbally fellates while fawning over his skills.

Once they put in Robinson for the one minute drill – after Musburger and Herbstreit had openly talked about how Michigan coaches said the one thing Robinson needs to work on is his passing skills (which is something QB’s should possess a good and working knowledge about, right Juice Williams and Terrelle Pryor?) – I thought it would end in our favor. Lucky for us, we have EPIC on our side.

by Twin Cities Hawk on Oct 12, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Was it really out of anger?

Forcier was playing like shit, and was probably a little loopy given the concussion, even if they didn’t realize that’s what it was at the time. Putting in Robinson made a lot of sense, and he did immediately lead them on one of their best drives of the game and get the score within 2.

by NorseHawk on Oct 12, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still, it's a strategy that's risky...

….in the late 4th qtr, with one timeout and down two scores, to put in a running QB.

It’s like trying to seduce a girl by showing her your empty wallet, hoping all the while she’s some anti-capitalist Marxist who will love your committment to poverty more than that Gucci handbag in the window.

Sure it can work if you’re dang lucky, but Forcier is a proven 4th quarter quantity who does what you need done in the 4th quarter (pass), whereas Robinson is less experienced and does what you need done with a lead in the 4th quarter (run).

My theory is this: they knew Forcier wadn’t right in no head. He prolly couldn’t even remember the internet address of his website at the time.

I think if ol’ Tater hadda had all his tots in order, he’da come out a’slingin’ and mubbe had pullda that victory carrut right outa’ that daggum ground, wavin that thang in our hangin’ like a dog Huckeye faces all thu way back to Ann’s Arbor.

On a side note, writing like that is almost as fun as talking like a pirate.

Yes, I think Forcier wasn’t entirely there, and they knew it.

If it's not too much trouble, search your soul--and then ask yourself if maybe I might have a point.

by The Director on Oct 12, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He wasn’t entirely there for most of the game, I’m not sure the concussion directly or indirectly had anything to do with the call.

BSD

by Kevin HD on Oct 13, 2009 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you think that was unique, you must have never seen Lloyd Carr scream at Henne, Navarre, Brady, or Griese. You must have never seen Moeller scream at Collins. You must have never seen Bo scream at Leach, Harbaugh, or Grbac. You must have never seen any coach, really ever, I guess aside from the mild-mannered Ferentz. Coach’s yell at players all the time, and when your QB takes two delay of game penalties (one was saved by Minor taking a TO) in the fourth quarter while you’re down by two scores, and the clock is melting away, I imagine that’s irritating. Now, it turns out Tate was mildly concussed, which could explain his carelessless – but Rodriguez didn’t know that at the time.

But the only outlets I can find that are spinning this as “a meltdown” are Iowa blogs.

http://www.wolverineliberationarmy.com/blog

by chitownblue on Oct 13, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Being concussed had nothing to do with his carelessness.

As it happened on his last play of the game

"My momma always said, 'It's better to eat shit than to not eat at all.'" --Rube Baker

by McNutt Butter on Oct 13, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True dat

I re-watched that play a few times last night, because I wanted to see Clayborn stare him down as he was helped up and off the field.

It was a solid, de-cleating but clean hit. A-C didn’t launch into him or lead with his helmet or anything. He just got there, dug in deep with his feet and lurched forward into him like Tate Forcier was a blocking sled. It was a beautiful football play. The concussion part happened when Tate hit the ground and his head bounced on the turf. Clayborn was still standing, so it’s not like he tried to use his weight to hurt or crush him.

In light of the concussion talk – well, nobody wants to see that stuff happen, but in the same breath there is a risk to playing a contact sport where 285 pound men are trying to hit somebody weighing 100 pounds less than them.

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Oct 13, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where did you watch the play?

I’m guessing you have the game recorded on your dvr, but if not I’d like a link to see this clock-cleaning.

"My momma always said, 'It's better to eat shit than to not eat at all.'" --Rube Baker

by McNutt Butter on Oct 13, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is the first coach I have seen this year that we've played...

…who was consistently screaming at someone, anyone on the sidelines for the entire length of the game. I suppose you are right; perhaps he didn’t melt down and maybe we are used to mild-mannered Ferentz. I happen to think, though, that Forcier is still a better option to run a one-minute drill with one timeout to spend than a guy whom his own coaches question his passing skills.

by Twin Cities Hawk on Oct 13, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, Ferentz isn't that mild-mannered

I mean, he is in interviews and stuff, but not when he’s actually coaching. Go to a game and watch him on the sidelines between plays. He does his fair share of yelling at guys too (and the refs. Holy shit can he light into a ref when he wants to).

by NorseHawk on Oct 14, 2009 7:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I’ve seen KF chew some MAJOR ass of a ref a few times. And he’ll get at a player who knowingly screws up. DickRod though is a different breed. I don’t see how he can yell non-stop for an entire football game. It boogles my mind.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Oct 14, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is true.

Speaking of facial expressions, someone should do all of the coaches “what the fuck happened?” faces together.

"You don't become a Hawkeye fan, You're born with Black and Gold in your veins." - Me

by BStylin Hawkye on Oct 14, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be

burning couches — the only thing richrod didn t pack into the box. But setting them things on fire is a Morgantown thing, I guess.

Mr. Boh Knows ...

by Bellanca on Oct 12, 2009 9:23 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Just a bit off topic

but Shonn Greene just got put into the Jets game.

They took the bar, the whole fucking bar!

by recoveringfratguy on Oct 12, 2009 9:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You can say nice job KOK...

But why wasn’t that play ran 49 straight times until we either had 343 pts or they dropped there safeties to help?! It’s the same as last week with McNutt. Something works, so lets only do it twice so we can keep pounding other shit that doesn’t work.

Fuck tOSU

by ajs1122 on Oct 12, 2009 9:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You know, even if we HAD scored 343 points that way...

…you know the Michigan people would say it was only because of all our damn holding!

“Stupid-ass homer refs! HOLDING asshole—can’t you see it??”

If it's not too much trouble, search your soul--and then ask yourself if maybe I might have a point.

by The Director on Oct 12, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Moeaki's second TD took a relatively long time to develop

According to the interviews, it was a check at the LOS and Moeaki was still the third read. Graham was consistently finding a way into the backfield, and Iowa needed to try to establish some sort of running game to keep the passing lanes open. Had Iowa bailed completely on the run, Moeaki and co. aren’t that open, regardless of the lack of talent in the Mich secondary.

by The Mexican't on Oct 12, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

THANK YOU

Thank you so much for saying that! And how about against ASU running the stretch continually when we could throw the ball at will? KK(no"O") gets no thanks from me.

by Bluzmn on Oct 13, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey rambler

What about adding the magical qb force to the bitchmade gallery?
My one year old has croup. No sleep tonight. I remember pulling all nighters at Mayflower. Pounding beers and playing Madden then going to class in the morning with no problem. Now it’s a problem.

And you can take that to the bank.

by Hawkeye X on Oct 12, 2009 11:44 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

It wasn't KOK

Those TDs to Moeaki were audibles called by Stanzi. KOK had nothing to do with them. This was probably the WORST game KOK has ever called. After the half when we put Vandervelde back in at RG all of a sudden we had running room on the right side and Robinson rips off three great runs in a row. So what does KOK do? He starts Wegher running to the left in the next series.

Can we PLEASE hire Chuck Long as the QB coach/ OC? Please?

by the_iowa_hawkeye on Oct 13, 2009 6:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hahahahahaha

ha

No. No, we cannot.

by NorseHawk on Oct 13, 2009 6:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahem.

Who, pray tell, taught Stanzi the audibles? Do you think he just makes them up himself?

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Oops Pow Surprise on Oct 13, 2009 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I too

was pretty blown away by that MnB “recap.” I agree with literally nothing he said in the entire post.

BSD

by Kevin HD on Oct 13, 2009 7:49 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It really was

a steaming pile of shit.

by TAMPAHAWK on Oct 13, 2009 8:07 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hi guys.

Congratulations on the win. I truly mean that – if you asked which of the potential Big 10 Championship teams I’d prefer to see win it all this year earlier in the season, I’d have said Iowa. I’d still say it, but now the sample of teams to choose from is small enough that such a statement would mean “I like Iowa more than OSU”, which, duh. What I’m saying: I generally like Iowa. I like Ferentz, I respect the hell out of their ability to produce high-performing teams from lower-rated recruits, etc. I like the tradition, I like the stadium, Iowa is good stuff, IME.

But this statement: “In fact, at no point in the second half did Michigan have the ball on Iowa’s side of the field with a one-possession deficit. They were never in position to win, and they lost by a deceptively close score. To insinuate otherwise is a fool’s occupation,” is sort of patently absurd.

The fact is that Michigan had the ball roughly 35 yards outside of reasonable field-goal range with a two-point deficit and a minute on the clock. I’d call that “a position to win”. They didn’t, your turnover-forcing-machine defense snuffed out that chance, congratulations. But I don’t see the need to overstate the thing to this frankly absurd degree. When a team has the ball, is within a field goal of winning, and has plenty of time to get said field goal, I’d say they still have a shot, right?

Also:

Iowa did win, of course, and sandwiched between MIchigan’s two scores was a 30-14 drubbing that could have been worse.

Come on. If I remove two of Iowa’s touchdowns, guess what? The score looks better for Michigan! For reals! If, on my blog, I wrote “If you remove Iowa’s first and last touchdown, this was a 28-16 drubbing that could have been worse without the turnovers,” you’d have called me a fucking idiot – and you’d have been right. The game happened as it did. The score was close. The game was close. Is that so bad?

Look, I’ll freely admit that 2009 Iowa is a superior team to 2009 Michigan. If the two teams played at Kinnick tomorrow, I’m not sure it would be as close. But I don’t see why we need to try so hard to make it seem like an ass-kicking.

http://www.wolverineliberationarmy.com/blog

by chitownblue on Oct 13, 2009 8:41 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Mostly agreed

But Michigan’s offense couldn’t get rolling in the second half. Iowa’s D turned it up a notch. Being 35 yards from reasonable field goal range still means you were on the wrong side of the 50 with 46 seconds to go. That’s the closest the Michigan offense got to being within range of having a chance to win in the second half. The original statement is correct. but I agree that it makes it sound less close, because from my seat, I was scared as hell of Michigan finding a way in those last sixty seconds.

by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on Oct 13, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

FWIW, I was scared shitless on Michigan’s last possession, and couldn’t believe the int that was thrown. I was more relieved than overjoyed at the Greenwood catch. Should this game have been this close? I sure as fuck don’t know. Take away the most egregious stanziball and it wouldn’t have been, but 3x taints is a trend, not an aberration. Anyway, now I’m just scared shitless about Wisconsin.

by txhawkeye on Oct 13, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amen

I don’t think there’s a game on the schedule that I’m not scared shitless about (save the Indiana game). This week, it just happens to be Wisconsin.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Oct 13, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glad I'm not the only one

maybe it’s just because being a Hawkeye has conditioned me to expect the worst. I

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Oct 13, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remember these words

Rich Rod will do something stupid to lose his job in the next 2 years.

by ChryslerKinnick on Oct 13, 2009 10:20 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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