It’s great to see KOK break tendencies like that, especially when the play is executed as beautifully as that pass was.

And play defense.

He came to Iowa to run the football, I doubt he has any interest in kickoff duties.

Kinda makes a difference when its 5-10 yards closer.

He’s a lover of the English language and its nuances.

The point is that there is more to being the defacto leader of your team than what the stats say – and while win/loss record has about as much merit for QB’s as it does for starting pitchers, you can’t quantify leadership.

Anywho – Tate got yanked and bitched out by his coach. Even in the yo-yo beginning to last season with the QB experimenting, I don’t once recall JC or Stanzi getting treated like Tate did. Not getting rattled in the face of defeat goes into that win/loss thing for team leaders.

that would ever claim Stanzi to be a superstar QB. He’s a mistake prone player, but he’s been a great leader for this Hawkeye football team and is a big reason for the success over the past year and a half. He may not ever play in the NFL, but not a lot of Iowa QBs do.

The facts are that Stanzi wins games. The only reason Forcier is getting the attention he’s received this year is because Michigan started 4-0. If Michigan only wins 2 more games this year, the media will chalk it up to true freshman jitters. If he never progresses, I’m sure they’ll continue to dig for excuses (see: Williams, Juice). In the end, if you’re not winning football games, then passing yards & TDs don’t mean much.

“QB W-L record to me is even more useless than wins as a stat for pitchers to tell you how good they were. I mean sure, the QB obviously has some control, but only so much. He’s not playing defense, he’s not the one blocking.”

You do know that no player handles the ball more than the QB? It is the most important position in ALL of team sports. It isn’t even close. No team wins without effective QB play…is that really debateable?

Also, ask Dan Marino about stats? Ask him how he feels about never being mentioned in the same breath as Joe Montana (who played only two fewer years yet passed for 20,000 fewer yards, 1,500 fewer completions, and 150 fewer TDs than Marino). I can assure you that Bill Walsh would never have preferred Marino to Montana.

Oh, and find me a post where anyone on this blog claimed Stanzi was a lock for first team all Big Ten. You know, if Iowa were 3-3 this season and Stanzi had the exact same stats how do you think he would be portrayed by fans and the press? If QBs get the blame, then they damn well ought to get the credit too.

But just use your head…Iowa has two freshmen RBs, an O-line that has had three starters out with injury and thus has made it a rotating starting line-up from game one, a wide receiver who was a QB less than a year ago, the best TE has missed three games, and so the ONLY constant on the Iowa offense has been the QB. IN fact, As Morehouse taught everyone, Stanzi and Bulaga were the ONLY players who started the first game of the season having played more than two games at their starting position. No team in the BIg Ten had that kiind of lack of continuity. I would bet Stanzi is one of the few QBs with the attitude to manage that.

I allot myself one bickering intertubes session each month and I thought this was it.

But it’s clear that a) you are arguing with the benefit of your secret mind-reading insights, and, b) you don’t know anything about football or winning football games. So I guess not. I could care less if mother theresa tate is better as a sophomore, if indeed he survives six more weeks of being richrod cannon fodder. He could survive, he could transfer before your coach has 18 more hissy fits, or he could get better and be good. Meanwhile, iowa starts two seniors on defense. Wait’ll next year?

Tate is 19 and he has already received one or two concussions, and i ll be shocked and amazed if he doesn t have two more — this year. But richrod has to win to pay off $8-10mm of extant liabilities. Tate will have a 65 year old brain in four years — if he submits. You guys have bought into a very bad regime.