IOWA BOARD OF REGENTS VOWS TO RE-OPEN INVESTIGATION THAT NEVER ACTUALLY HAPPENED
The Iowa state Board of Regents had their emergency meeting today, in Iowa City, with only one issue on the agenda. The issue was an investigation into the alleged sexual assault at the Hillcrest Residence Hall at the university. The Press-Citizen has the details here. I watched the live feed on the internet and I'd like to hit a few points that struck me.
1) The Board was displeased that the letter from the alleged victim's mother was not made available to them when they formed their original investigation. Regents President David Miles called it a "serious breach of trust".
Indeed.
2) Miles then said that the letter should not only have been provided to the regents, it should have formed a "roadmap" for the investigation itself.
Logic rears its head!
3) University of Iowa President, Sally Mason, then read a prepared statement:
"Let me begin by expressing my profound and sincere regret for the failure to notify you of the letters that came to the University of Iowa from the mother of the UI student who reported being sexually assaulted last fall in Hillcrest Residence Hall. I apologize for this error and for not making certain that the board had access to all information relevant to this case."
"The original thinking that federal law known as FERPA, designed to protect student privacy, prevented the letter from being shared with our Board of Regents leadership is just not tenable. There is no excuse for the failure to turn over those letter as part of the investigation that you directed the Board of Regents office to conduct in the wake of the report of the assault.
I'm not a lawyer, but I do have the Internet and serviceable intellect. The FERPA Law was created to protect a college student's right to to keep their grades private. For Mason to cite this as the reason that they withheld the letter from the regents' investigation is specious, at best, and at worst, a deliberate lie. Citing FERPA as grounds to withhold details of a student's sexual assault is remarkably disingenuous.
"I will make it clear to all member of my administration that our obligation to maintain the privacy of student records should never be interpreted as preventing us from sharing information that you request in pursuit of your governance responsibilities.
"To ensure that you are able to pursue those responsibilities in this particular case, I welcome any additional process that you wish to set in motion. You will have the full cooperation of the UI faculty, staff and administrators. I trust that your further review will show that those involved in this case at the UI worked hard to follow the established policies and procedures under very difficult circumstances. I welcome and look forward to insight that will provide opportunities to improve our policies, processes, and the execution of both.
"Once you have completed your work on this case, I intend to engage independent outside expertise to examine our overall handling of all sexual assault cases. The results will be informed by best practices in higher education, and the expert and his or her findings will be shared with the board. We must, and we will, demonstrate that we continue to be an institution with integrity and with an abhorrence to violence. While we can hope that we will never again have to deal with such tragic and horrific cases, hard experience teaches us that we must be prepared.
Moving forward, she intends to cooperate with the investigation and at the conclusion of the investigation, she's going to use this as a learning experience to do better next time. Based on recent experience, I've little doubt there will be a next time.
"Finally, I offer my heartfelt sympathy to the young woman and her family for the stress, the trauma, and the sense of abandonment that they have expressed. From my observations of this situation throughout, I can say, honestly and sincerely, that many people tried very, very hard to help and be helpful. Good intentions, and even good actions, cannot, however, make up for what has happened."
Sally Mason had the microphone and one chance to finally do the right thing and she failed, miserably. I won't claim to be unbiased, but I also won't remain silent on the closing of her statement. When she said the family's "sense of abandonment that they have expressed", she's acting as though their feelings are unwarranted, as though it's a figment of their imagination that they've been brushed off by the university. Further, her claim that "many people tried very, very hard to help and be helpful" was incredibly insensitive, as though the victim's assault turned out to be a lot of work for the university. She put them in a spot of bother! There were many things happening at the university since the incident occurred, but I see none that were initiated to help the victim. I'm not the victim, or her family, and I won't pretend to know how they feel. I do know how Mason's statement made me feel, and that feeling was revulsion. "Good intentions"? Really?
4) The advisory committee slated to perform the investigation will be headed by former Iowa attorney general, Bonnie Campbell. The investigation is to be concluded by September 18th, 2008.
This is my one hope. When it comes to the rights of victims of violent crime, Bonnie Campbell does not play. The regents are sending a message that, moving forward, they're going to do everything they can to get their questions answered.
One final point that bears mentioning: The Board of Regents does not have subpoena power when conducting an investigation. So, as much as I'm heartened by the fact that Bonnie Campbell is heading this investigation, I'm also not convinced she'll be able to get results. Will she be stonewalled with denials and "I can't recalls"? Time will tell.
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Ugghh
I feel like Eric Gordon just kicked me in the face. Is there any way to enjoy the season now?
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on
Jul 22, 2008 5:41 PM CDT
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My Prediction
Everyone Lawyers Up, investigation gets stonewalled, case is brushed under the table and the tarnish to the reputation of our great University is stuck forever. I am so disgusted that I can not comment anymore. My head might explode. Time for a cocktail. Great Headline.
What? They don't have TV in the D-League? Don't watch me, watch TV.
by Mac G on
Jul 22, 2008 6:09 PM CDT
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Been There, Done That
Once you have completed your work on this case, I intend to engage independent outside expertise to examine our overall handling of all sexual assault cases. The results will be informed by best practices in higher education, and the expert and his or her findings will be shared with the board. We must, and we will, demonstrate that we continue to be an institution with integrity and with an abhorrence to violence. While we can hope that we will never again have to deal with such tragic and horrific cases, hard experience teaches us that we must be prepared.
Sally Mason does know that not ONE, but TWO different “independent outside” groups were brought in after Pierce, and that the current system is the result of the apparent failure of those panels, right?
"Bob Zook has to be the laziest man alive"
by Hawkeye State on
Jul 22, 2008 6:11 PM CDT
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"apparent"?
I’m thinking it’s beyond that
by chitownhawkeye on
Jul 22, 2008 6:17 PM CDT
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One point of contention
I don’t think any number of independent panels could have looked at the new protocol and imagined this kind of clusterfuck.
Oh, and the press absolutely must call them on their “we followed protocol” lie.
"This cream cheese story is good .But we can add some other story about the cream cheese." - Dr. Retarded
by Oops Pow Surprise on
Jul 22, 2008 6:48 PM CDT
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To WANNABEE LAWYERS and WANNABEE WISEMEN
You guys are doing just what you’re accusing the athletic department of doing: handling this informally, so you can spin it for the best outcome. Here are some facts, Jacks:
1. leave your emotions at the door when you are trifling with peoples’ lives and careers. You guys are bleeding through every syllable. Everybody you want to be guilty is guilty. The letter from the mother of the victim is GOSPEL (NOT LIKELY)
2. You are not police or prosecutors. You’re playing Gothcha journalism without all the cards or facts.
3. You judges and jurors all all have taken an emotional leap of faith and are an embarrassment to justice.
4. Yeah, something smells in all this, no doubt. But you are so far from having the goods-all the goods-you’re just like the athletic department and the administration you have convicted and sent to hell.
5. Misguided and confused alleged rape victims never, ever do logical stuff. I’m not holding this young woman to any standard. She did a classic illogical thing by not going straight to the police. That’s a terrible shame. Where I come from, abuse victims are VICTIMS and must be respected like children who can not think clearly for themselves. The VERY FIRST people who knew of her alleged assault should have RUN to the police ASAP. If the letter is accurate, every single person who became aware of this incident should have RUN to the authorities. The charge here is NOT rudeness or BAD FORM. It’s a flippin crime!
6. There is so much WE DON’T know it is unconscionable to be so summary when just a fraction of the truth has been unpacked.
7. You big boys who were "sick" about bringing this to light should have listened to your stomachs and stuck with THE FACTS. There is no shame or twitching in reporting facts . You were nauseated by the height of your moral stand. There is one helluva chasm to jump when leaping from facts to conclusions.
Grow up and leave the law to the law.
Now, come and string me up!!!
Robobubba has spoken!
by robobubba on
Jul 23, 2008 12:06 AM CDT
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Do you feel better?
We’re not journalists, we didn’t convict anyone, we didn’t send anyone to hell, and we’re not interested in discussing how the victim is at fault.
Also, you accused us of being “summary” and I don’t even know what that means. I think you got your words mixed up, tiger. And no one wants to “come and string you up”. In fact, no one wants to “do” anything with you, at all. Sorry your flaccid attempt at provocation was a waste of time.
Be still.
by jebushchrist on
Jul 23, 2008 12:43 AM CDT
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To WANNABE BUDDIES WITH THE RESPONSIBLE PARTIES
First, let me say I don’t need to be a “wannabe” lawyer. Not to go all Star Jones here, but I am one.
Your own point 5 proves everything. “Abuse victims are VICTIMS and must be respected like children who can not thing clearly for themselves.” Then why didn’t her coach/Mims/Barta/Ferentz tell her to go to the police, like any self-respecting adult would do in the same situation? Why didn’t her coach/Mims/Barta/Ferentz, at the very least, tell her that the “informal” process (which didn’t even punish those accused or report the incident to the Vice President of Student Services so a different dorm room could be found) was not proper in this circumstance? Someone told her it was preferential to let these guys off the hook, and the rest nodded in agreement.
There is too much specificity in the mom’s letter as to the existence and implementation of the “informal” process for the substance to be untrue. Ferentz would not be in the room with the victim if the “formal” process was being followed. EOD would have gotten the case almost immediately if the “formal” process was being followed. VPSS would have put a no-contact order on Everson/Satterfield/anyone else involved and made alternate living arrangements for her if the “formal” process was being followed. This simply did not happen.
Look, I hope to God we’re wrong. I hope the investigation shows that Ferentz was on vacation in Tahiti. I hope that Mims told her the best option was to go immediately to the police, and the ICPD lost the paperwork. I hope that Barta looked at her and her dad and told them they were nuts for proceeding with an “informal process” that IS NOT DESIGNED TO PUNISH THE PERPETRATORS. If we’re wrong, I’ll publish an apology to all parties with a smile on my face. Hell, I’ll resign myself, and I’ll probably deserve it. Quite frankly, though, if anyone recommended the informal process, and any of the other parties heard that and agreed to proceed with said process, they’re all culpable.
The fact is that this hush-hush informal bullshit should never have been implemented in the first place, and it never should have been agreed to by anyone in a position of authority who could have simply stood up and said, “No. I won’t go along with this. It’s wrong.” I don’t care if Everson and Satterfield are eventually found guilty; their guilt or innocence is irrelevant to the fact that these people – people who are in positions of great authority, who are trusted with the well-being of college kids, and who should, and did, know better – tried to get them out of a rape charge with a 6-week suspension and pulled the wool over a victim’s eyes in their attempt to do it.
Go ahead and defend that, Wiseman.
"Bob Zook has to be the laziest man alive"
by Hawkeye State on
Jul 23, 2008 1:08 AM CDT
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Thanks HS.
Your last paragraph there nails it.
by Bucketochicken on
Jul 23, 2008 6:38 AM CDT
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Your own point 5 proves everything (proves nothing
!!!!0 . "Abuse victims are VICTIMS and must be respected like children who can not thing clearly for themselves." Then why didn’t her coach/Mims/Barta/Ferentz tell her to go to the police, like any self-respecting adult would do in the same situation? Why didn’t her coach/Mims/Barta/Ferentz, at the very least, tell her that the "informal" process (which didn’t even punish those accused or report the incident to the Vice President of Student Services so a different dorm room could be found) was not proper in this circumstance? Someone told her it was preferential to let these guys off the hook, and the rest nodded in agreement.
There is too much specificity in the mom’s letter as to the existence and implementation of the "informal" process for the substance to be untrue. Ferentz would not be in the room with the victim if the "formal" process was being followed. EOD would have gotten the case almost immediately if the "formal" process was being followed. VPSS would have put a no-contact order on Everson/Satterfield/anyone else involved and made alternate living arrangements for her if the "formal" process was being followed. This simply did not happen.
My point: You don’t know what happened; you ask a fine WHY ? (Then why didn’t her coach/Mims/Barta/Ferentz tell her to go to the police, like any self-respecting adult would do in the same situation?) But neither of us knows what went down now, do we???.
You have simply chose to believe you and the Mom were there and everything she says is the way it went down. Little early to make that call. Unless you’re sitting on a statement and aren’t sharing, you don’t know how it went down. You are INFORMALLY ajudicating things based on a fraction of the facts. I bet you’re a fine lawyer, but not ready to be a judge.
Robobubba has spoken!
by robobubba on
Jul 23, 2008 11:34 PM CDT
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The letter from the mother of the victim is GOSPEL (NOT LIKELY)
Funny how so little of it has been contradicted when much of it, if false, should be easily shown to be false, then. (For instance, it should be a matter of record when the first police report regarding the situation was filed. If it wasn’t pretty much immediate, then someone screwed up big time. The letter says it wasn’t – and if anyone wished to counter that accusation, it should be extremely easy to do so. That no one has yet speaks volumes.)
We don’t know exactly who was involved, at what point, or in what capacity just yet. But unless the letter is a work of pure fiction (while there is the possibility of some exaggeration, I doubt it’s entirely bullshit), it seems pretty obvious that there was a major, major failure somewhere in whatever system the university has set up to deal with this sort of thing. That means heads will – and should – roll. Who deserves to get fired is an open question at this point, but if there’s even the tiniest bit of truth in that letter, then the people involved have a lot of explaining to do – and resumes to update.
by SpartanDan on
Jul 23, 2008 1:13 AM CDT
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Bingo
There is such an incredible amount of specificity that if the mother’s making it up, the UI should easily be able to pull up certain emails and say “not quite, folks.” And while I get that they’re not going to discuss ongoing investigations and such, what does the UI’s conduct after the fact have to do with whether or not Everson and Satterfield are guilty? The UI’s not on trial here.
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by Oops Pow Surprise on
Jul 23, 2008 4:56 AM CDT
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The letter, once received
The letter, once received, is a taxonomy of alleged abuse (informal, formal, and just, frankly, inhuman) and the outline of a likely civil complaint. If you’re Sally “I honestly and sincerely abhor violence, so leave me alone”) Mason, that is a major, Oh Shit event. Based on that letter an executive is going to go on emergency fix-it-now status and do whatever it takes to resolve the mother’s concerns. Because the next letter typically is from a civil litigation firm, followed up by service, with copies of the complaint cc’d to the local paper. Everybody (that is, everybody who doesn’t ask for extra credit because she “honestly and sincerely abhors violence”) knows this.
Downer has already commented on this publicly, to wit: “Hey, I was told we were ensuring this girl’s safety and responding to her needs. This letter says that whenever her mom called someone she heard the passive-aggressive’s refrain: “I’m sorry, I’m away from my desk right now … Please leave a message and I’ll listen to it and call you back if I feel like it.” This is not what I was told. I have 175 new questions to ask.” So that letter, which cannot be a fake given how the Board and administration have acknowledged it, for all of its lack of sophistication, and as painful as it is to read, is the key.
And Sally “I honestly and sincerely abhor violence, and yes, I really said that yesterday” Mason knew it. That’s why she buried it.
Man, this will get very bad if there are other letters like it, in earlier years, that now make an appearance. Have their been other “informal processes” lately? I imagine there have been, but I surely don’t know. You all realize how this entire situation is being exposed just because the P-C had a hard-ass reporter and editor bucking HawkeyeNation sentiment? Now they will be an information magnet for anyone who has been hurt or frustrated or offended by other ‘informal processes’.
Bellanca
by Bellanca on
Jul 23, 2008 7:14 AM CDT
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Distinctions
I agree that an informal process should be available. Many rapes go unreported for fear that the victim will be scarlet lettered. Even if the University reported to the police immediately, however, wouldn’t the victim still have the option to press charges? If she chose not to press charges couldn’t the University then go forward with an informal process? These are real questions, not rhetorical.
Another problem is this informal process was all within the Athletic Department. There is an inherent conflict of interest there. The AD has a vested interest in the well-being of both the alleged victim and the accused.
As to the statements above that BHGP and others are jumping to conclusions by calling for resignations. . . its not true. There is not enough evidence at this point to convict anyone of obstruction or any other nefarious act. There is some evidence that University policy was not followed, but nonetheless, whether the policy was followed warrants further investigation, which the Regents have undertaken. I don’t think many disagree with this. The distinction is, those involved are in a position of public trust at a public university. They are trusted with well-being and education of young adults. They all get paid gobs of money, and they all understand that there job is tenuous (ask any coach or AD). They were all at least on notice of what happened generally. Even if policies were followed, no one stepped up to the plate. I doubt Ferentz was involved in some grand cover-up, he probably just didn’t want to deal with it. Seems Sally Mason likely just chose to ignore this since she usually doesn’t handle such situations. That’s enough though. Ignorance is no defense here. They are at least guilty by association for the acts/omissions of those below them. They lacked the courage to make a stand and breached the public trust. We should demand that the leaders at the state’s best institution display the highest leadership qualities. Following a policy book is not enough. Anyone can do that. Going beyond that is what gets you to be President of a University or the highest paid state employee in the state and one of the top in the country. Falling short of that is what gets you fired or should cause you to resign. That is why I am calling for resignations. I don’t have to wait for someone to be convicted of a crime. I don’t trust them anymore and lost a huge amount of respect for them. Unless the letter is a complete fabrication (which given Sally Mason’s response is unlikely) I have a good reason for my loss of trust and respect. This is true even if the letter is not 100% accurate. Loss of trust and respect is more than enough to call for a resignation of someone in their position. Especially when that loss of trust and respect could soon spill over to the University at large, if it hasn’t already.
by Henrik Holger on
Jul 23, 2008 9:26 AM CDT
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Time out
The idea that all of you are discussing administrative process and the mental capacity of a rape victim is ridiculous to me. Have any of you read our original letter ? We never demanded anyone be fired. We never convicted anyone of a crime. We’re not conducting an investigation. We’re not the Board. We’re not the police. We’re talking on the internet.
I refuse to give voice to someone who thinks that following a misapplied administrative procedure trumps human rights. You people are arguing that protocol was followed because you can’t talk about the real problem here, which we addressed in our letter: None of them did the right thing. Until someone can argue that they did, all of this bullshit needs to stop.
You’re talking just to talk, but I don’t want to hear it, and this isn’t the place for it. What were you doing last week? Where were you? Were you talking to your girlfriend? Your mom? Your cat? Whatever. Go do that, and take the comments you C&Pd from a fucking message board with you.
by jebushchrist on
Jul 23, 2008 10:30 AM CDT
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“None of them did the right thing.”
How do we know that for sure? We have one person’s interpretation of what happened, but we haven’t heard the whole story yet. I just wish we could all take a deep breath, take a step back, and wait until we hear the whole story.
It just seems to me that lots of people have jumped to conclusions and nobody has any idea what really happened and who is responsible. National news, talk radio, etc now has this and has also jumped to conclusions – without anybody having any real idea what has happened because both sides have not had the right to talk publicly about it.
And please don’t accuse me of thinking the reputation of the University is above the rights of the victim – that is unfair and I don’t believe that at all.
I disagree with you guys jumping to conclusions, and if you feel like you should insult me because of it, ban me, whatever – that is fine with me. I hope you can tolerate differences of opinion on here – especially when it’s done in a civil way.
by kirbyhawk on
Jul 23, 2008 12:07 PM CDT
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How do we know that for sure?
Because I know right from wrong.
by jebushchrist on
Jul 23, 2008 12:17 PM CDT
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So do I, but until we get all the facts for us to base our opinion on it seems prudent to me to wait until that time comes.
I agree that this situation is messed up – but I really don’t know who (specifically) messed it up, how it was messed up, who is specifically to blame, etc. I can’t imagine anyone being able to target specific individuals for blame at this time, based on the very biased, limited information we currently have.
I guess I feel like the media has turned this in to one of those “don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story” type of things.
And I am tired of talking about it and wish we could get back to talking about football again.
by kirbyhawk on
Jul 23, 2008 1:15 PM CDT
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The fact that you’re trying to hang this on the media is both lazy and ignorant, which makes the fact that I’m still explaining our position (which is quite simple really) to people after 3 days (almost) make sense.
by jebushchrist on
Jul 24, 2008 8:28 AM CDT
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Thanks for the insults.
In my opinion, it is lazy and ignorant to jump to conclusions without hearing all of the facts.
The fact that after 3 days you still don’t seem to respect the fact that many people would like to wait until ALL of the information is released before determining guilt is surprising to me as well.
by kirbyhawk on
Jul 24, 2008 10:49 AM CDT
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I’m insulting you because you’re too stupid to read and comprehend our letter.
I’m insulting you because you’re attributing the words and statements of others, to us, which pisses me off.
I’m insulting you because you’re obsessed with getting all the details in a sexual assault case and that creeps me out.
I’m insulting you because you’re caught up in the buzz words that you heard on message boards and can’t speak with your own voice.
I’m insulting you because this is a community, and you only joined it 3 days ago so you could tell us our opinion post was wrong.
I’m insulting you because you haven’t brought anything new to the table in the 72 hours that you’ve been here, and I’m tired of you.
by jebushchrist on
Jul 24, 2008 11:37 AM CDT
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Sorry to have offended you, and sorry that you have again jumped to so many conclusions about me without knowing me or where my voice comes from. Many of the things you use to insult me I could also throw back at you – but this is such a giant mess the last thing I want is to see Hawkeye fans verbally attacking other Hawkeye fans.
I have greatly enjoyed your site for a long time, but have always been someone who prefers reading to posting.
You guys do a good job – I just disagree with you about the things you have written, and I thought it would be OK to post my thoughts.
I look forward to reading your stuff in the future.
by kirbyhawk on
Jul 24, 2008 11:52 AM CDT
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You got it right, baby. You make my point better than my clumsy words!!!!
Props to Kirbyhawk for thinking straight.
Why don’t you guys go back to dreaming up nicknames for Defensve linemen???
Robobubba has spoken!
by robobubba on
Jul 23, 2008 11:36 PM CDT
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Yeah, I read your letter....totally out of control emotionalism
Forget what anybody might find out from here on out, YOU HAVE SPOKEN.
Resign MoFos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That’s a bloggin floggin, dude. This is why we still have newspapers cause bloggers never do reporting.
Robobubba has spoken!
by robobubba on
Jul 23, 2008 11:53 PM CDT
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I didn’t see your point until you added all of those exclamation points.
by jebushchrist on
Jul 24, 2008 8:30 AM CDT
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really? i thought the use of rhetorical questions to cap the arguments was what made it all clear.
by kleph on
Jul 24, 2008 9:09 AM CDT
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I hope, for your sake
that your recent spate of posts can be chalked up to being drunk.
"This cream cheese story is good .But we can add some other story about the cream cheese." - Dr. Retarded
by Oops Pow Surprise on
Jul 24, 2008 9:19 AM CDT
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I guess I wasn't clear
Leaving comments attacking the victim are not acceptable. I just deleted one. The next one, and everything after, gets banned.
by jebushchrist on
Jul 23, 2008 11:15 AM CDT
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It’s a small matter compared to the situation at hand, but I just wanted to commend the writers here on handling this in the way they have. Too often an issue like this gets tied up in worrying about football, worrying about how it will impact the future of the program, the disturbing internet tendency to discount rape allegations and immediately question the victim, or chickenshit legal hoop jumping to exonerate someone who has done something wrong but not “wrong” according to obscure rules.
by Wolverine_Dex on
Jul 23, 2008 12:00 PM CDT
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Oh, there's HawkeyeNation.com for that.
But bring a sick-sack.
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by Bellanca on
Jul 23, 2008 12:31 PM CDT
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Thank you, Dex, but
I don’t know that we’re clearing the mantle for our Pulitzer just yet. This incident occurred last October and we only talked about it a handful of times until we saw the Press-Citizen’s piece (which included the mother’s letter) on Saturday. We didn’t exactly beat down any doors looking for answers either. We’re clowns. We like to keep it light around here. We didn’t want to do this all week. We just finally got to a point where we had to.
Jesus, look around this place. You see anyone smiling?
by jebushchrist on
Jul 23, 2008 12:34 PM CDT
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Trust and Respect
Bottom line for me is the University officials involved have lost my trust and respect. Really, no matter what happens with the Regents investigation, that will not change. There will still be questions when the investigation is over. A lot could boil down to he said / she said. Some posters seem to think that the University is going to tell its side of the story and everything is going to suddenly make sense and be uncontroverted. There are always going to be unknowns here, at least to the public. My default is to construe those unknowns against the party with the most power, money, and the most to lose. Especially when the other side has nothing to gain in lying.
They have lost my trust and respect and no matter what comes out the University and AD image is tarnished. People get fired/resign for alleged recruiting violations, drinking natty light with college students, going 6-6, etc. This is worse.
by Henrik Holger on
Jul 23, 2008 12:34 PM CDT
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What's the gist?
Is calling for everybody’s heads here over-reacting? Don’t know.
Are all of the facts in this situation known? Not even close.
Did the Athletic Department handle this poorly? Based on what info we’ve been given, most definitely.
Does the victim deserve better? You bet.
I believe that’s the point that Jebus and BHGP staff are making – the athletic department not only screwed this “investigation” up, but what the hell were they doing handling the investigation in the first place? (again, assuming the limited info we currently have is correct.)
In the meantime however, bloggers, message boards, commenters, etc. are left with no choice but to spew comments and make assumptions like a bunch of CNN talking heads, waiting for ANY new info.
Am I summing this up correctly?
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on
Jul 23, 2008 12:41 PM CDT
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An opinion EVERYONE can agrew with
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on
Jul 23, 2008 1:21 PM CDT
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D'OH!
That should be A-G-R-E-E
I kahn spel reel gud.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on
Jul 23, 2008 1:22 PM CDT
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no biggie
We mew whta you nearnt.
by Bucketochicken on
Jul 23, 2008 1:42 PM CDT
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Can anyone shed light on the orgins of the letter.
I’m just curious to where and who found it? How did it just come out now, any specifics? And, if Mason and company knew it could be so harmful in the first place (assuming the “letter” was found in their position and what not) why it was kept and not destroyed and hidden?
I’m NOT at all discrediting whether or not it’s true or fake. I was just thinking about these things when I’ve been reading the past couple days.
by mahossa on
Jul 23, 2008 1:23 PM CDT
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Sent from the mother to the UI in November.
Multiple UI officials acknowledged seeing it (or at least knowing of it) back then. Mother then sent it to the ICPC and conducted a phone interview with them.
Its authenticity is beyond suspicion.
"This cream cheese story is good .But we can add some other story about the cream cheese." - Dr. Retarded
by Oops Pow Surprise on
Jul 23, 2008 1:28 PM CDT
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ahhh...
I see. I was under the impression it was something that was only physically kept by UI officials and word had leaked out they had sucha thing and were forced into showing it, or something of this sort.
thanks…
by mahossa on
Jul 23, 2008 1:32 PM CDT
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That makes no sense at all.
"This cream cheese story is good .But we can add some other story about the cream cheese." - Dr. Retarded
by Oops Pow Surprise on
Jul 23, 2008 1:40 PM CDT
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"That makes no sense at all"
That might be the best summarizing statement of all for this whole shitty deal.
by Bucketochicken on
Jul 23, 2008 1:44 PM CDT
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national sh*tstorm
I cannot imagine what the Thursday Big Ten kickoff media event is going to be like for KF and the three athletes that usually attend with him. I would keep the guys home, or give each one a handler who is taught to say robotically, “I”m sorry, football questions only for the guys. Those questions about sexual violence and institutional policies that fail people? They go to the coach.”
MGOBLOG’s summary is, like all of the national comments (Patrick, Cowherd) semi-correct but really very wrong. He weaves a plausible obstruction of justice tale, but there appears to have been none, just moral cowardice. This is Lord Jim, not Silence of the Lambs.
What’s happening is this story is being sucked into the vortex of the national scandal-du-jour press, and I actually don’t think it’s a simple story with an easy story line. But it’s going to turn into one.
Bellanca
by Bellanca on
Jul 23, 2008 1:48 PM CDT
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"I actually don’t think it’s a simple story with an easy story line. But it’s going to turn into one"
Oh come on man, the American public isn’t THAT fucking stup—
Oh.
by Bucketochicken on
Jul 23, 2008 1:56 PM CDT
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Interesting point
a UI law professor (maybe you took a class from him HS?), Nicholas Johnson, brings up a good point in his blog, fromdc2iowa.blogspot.com. Everyone involved in this (administration, regents, AD, etc.) has shifted the focus from the contents of the letter, to the reasoning behind keeping it from the regents. Isn’t the bigger question why they didn’t take action on the contents, rather than why they didn’t show it to the regents?
He brings up some good points.
by Eubanks on
Jul 23, 2008 4:04 PM CDT
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Excellent link, Eubanks
Thanks. I’ll be monitoring that one daily.
by Bucketochicken on
Jul 23, 2008 4:23 PM CDT
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These are bureaucrats invested with the power of leadership--
so they need to focus on their policies and procedures manuals, rather than the moral landscape that required more substantive responses. The carefully phrased reasonings for their avoidance (which, by the way, they keep changing) relieves them of true responsibility for what happened, or even to recognize and observe what happened.
Bellanca
by Bellanca on
Jul 23, 2008 4:42 PM CDT
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why
do I feel like this is going to turn into all of us shouting, “WHO ORDERED THE CODE RED?!” at each other?
by dmbmeg on
Jul 23, 2008 4:12 PM CDT
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Because you can’t handle the truth?
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on
Jul 23, 2008 4:29 PM CDT
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Sally Mason in "A Few Good Men"
Son, we live in a world that has procedures and those procedures need to be followed by men who chew gum. Who’s gonna do it? You? You, Bonnie Campbell? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for the victim and curse the Athletic Department; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that the withholding of this letter, while tragic, probably saved careers and that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, wins football games. You don’t want the truth because deep down in places you don’t talk about at parties you want me on that call, you need me on that call. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use then as the backbone of a life trying to defend something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the U of Iowa pride I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said “thank you,” and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a policy book and stand a post. Either way, I don’t give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on
Jul 23, 2008 5:14 PM CDT
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One qualm
“We use words like formal, informal, FERPA.”
Otherwise, chillingly appropriate.
"This cream cheese story is good .But we can add some other story about the cream cheese." - Dr. Retarded
by Oops Pow Surprise on
Jul 23, 2008 6:44 PM CDT
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Good edit.
I for some reason struggled with the right choice of replacement words there, and in the end decided to just leave it as is. Laziness on my part.
Can’t wait to see BHGP’s take on the “timeline” in the latest Press Citizen post.
by YouCanPutYourEddsInIt on
Jul 24, 2008 12:16 PM CDT
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