BHGP ROUNDTABLE: Iowa Football 2008 (Part One)
This piece was meant to have been an all-inclusive, one-stop-pop roundtable discussion on the upcoming Hawkeye football season. All four authors that contribute to BHGP were to answer 12 incredibly written questions and give their expertly expert expertise. Seeing that I collaberate with a bunch of overzealous, pompous wannabees (I can only assume they were the same guys who, as kids, ran to the front of the class to be first to hand in their math assignments), this story is much larger than I anticipated. Henceforth (yeah, big word, I know), this will be a double dipper. Six questions now, six questions later. Wow. Fun.
LEGEND (for those of you scoring at home):
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Hawkeye State |
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EXPLANATION OF THE LEGEND: If you were wondering about the basis of the icons for each contributor to the roundtable. Here’s your answer. I suppose I could have used everyone’s current avatar, but that would just confuse everyone severely. The only logical thing to do was to go to Google. It basically runs everything in the world, top to bottom. The Google image results were studied and the most applicable images were used. Sure, JHC gets a flaming unicorn and I get Pearl Jam rocking out on stage, but that’s randomization at its best. If you disagree, go screw.
Now, without further ado, the questions…
Well, there’s a little more ado. The questions are after the jump… so… make the jump… now.
Good, you made the jump. Now you can continue onto our Roundtable feature, but I will warn you right now... the information contained might:
a.) make your head explode
b.) cause you to become pregnant
c.) force you to empty your bowels
You've been warned... finally, the questions that are dying to be answered.
IOWA'S OFFENSIVE MVP
There are two, and only two possible answers, and that's Jake Christensen or Tony Moeaki. We'll find out about Moeaki when he's on the field, but his blocking/receiving capabilities are vitally important for the offense as a whole, and let's face it, Brandon Myers isn't there on either front yet.

Meanwhile, JC, too, is critically important to the team's success, and it's imperative that he not only has the system in place to succeed (we'll see about that), but also the mental fortitude (again, we'll see). It's awfully tough for a college quarterback to struggle the way Christensen did last season, then come back and put together a monster year, and while we're not saying he's now forever tainted, he does have a long way to go. Then again, maybe just eliminating the threat of being sacked by Vandervelde as he's tossed backwards will make everything settle into place more easily.

I'll go ahead and say it: Jake Christensen. Kirk Ferentz has already compared him to Matt Rodgers, who had an atrocious sophomore year (only honorable mention All-Big Ten while finishing 2nd in the league in passing yards behind Jeff Freaking George) before massacring all in front of him in his junior and senior years. I don't see why Christensen (who had a much better sophomore year, finishing 11th in the conference in passing efficiency) should be any different. If the line improves as it should, and the receivers improve as they should, and the return of Tony Moeaki gives him a reliable target over the middle, and we find a running back...

Oh, who am I kidding? Your offensive MVP is Seth Olsen. By default.
Kyle Calloway Jr. (son of former Hawkeye Kyle Galloway), who will (probably) start at RT - Talk all you want about our backs and receivers, but if JC doesn't have his ass protected, we're screwed.
I know you think it can't be worse than last year, but it can. If JC starts getting hammered from behind by
Probably the easiest question of the entire roundtable discussion. Tony Moeaki. The TE position has always been the safety blanket for QBs under the Kirk Ferentz regime. Brad Banks had Dallas Clark. Drew Tate had Scott Chandler. Now Jake Christensen has Tony Moeaki.
All three TEs mentioned will be in the NFL in a few years. In fact, you all know Tony is going to win the Mackey Award. YOU KNOW IT! Go ahead and ink it in. Moeaki is NFL ready right now, can block effectively, has soft hands, possesses a high football IQ, and (barring injury) will be one of the main targets for Jake this year. Also, Moeaki is going to defeat McCain this November, as well… pencil that one in, though.
IOWA'S DEFENSIVE MVP

This has to be the DT tandem of Kroul and Unusual Punishment. While the ends are just as critical to the success of the defense (moreso the secondary), everyone will be feeding off the energy of Kroul and King up front.
A healthy, active front 4 is critical to the rest of the defense functioning like a typical Parker defense ought to: angry and unabated.

There is only one answer, and it's not who you think. In a defensive system predicated on a front four pass rush with limited blitzing, it's Matt Kroul who is key.

Without Kroul in the middle taking on 3 offensive linemen, Unusual Punishment and his young compadres on the outside wouldn't stand a chance of getting to the quarterback. Without Kroul plugging the middle, the linebackers (who, by the way, are also young) can't flow to stop the run. Without Kroul, the secondary is defending receivers longer than should be allowed in a zone scheme. King will get the accolades, but it's Kroul that makes

Ryan Donahue, P - No, I'm not kidding. We do not have a dynamic offense. We will have a stout defense, but I don't see anything dynamic out of our D either. When we were good, we dominated field position. We will need to do it again to have any success against good teams this year.
Donahue has a huge leg and with a year of experience I expect consistency... jesus, a fucking Right Tackle and a Punter as our MVPs... sigh.

Saying "Mitch King" here is like predicting that Peyton Manning is going to start at QB for the Colts next year. Pretty obvious one, so I’m not going to say it (Waaaait, I just did). Anyway... I’m going to go with A.J. Edds.
He’s a smart guy (BXI All Academic Team). Weighs in around 250 lbs, yet runs a sub 4.7 40. A brutal combination of speed, size, and strength. The guys up front are going to take care of business this year (please, oh please), which will allow Edds to go Greenway on opposing offenses. Rumor is A.J. has put on 35 more lbs, dropped his 40 to 4.39, and added 17" to his vertical. Good news for Hawk fans.
BIGGEST OBSTACLE FOR THIS IOWA TEAM

God, where to begin? The running game isn't even on the same continent as "stable," the offensive line needs to actually show some improvement, and we don't know if anyone on offense is capable of staying healthy over the course of the year, with the exception of maybe Eubanks and, uh, DJK? Everything hinges on having the offense ready for the Big Ten slate by the time they head to

September. We haven't gotten through September without a loss since 2001, and that was because the ISU game at

We need to stay healthy! We need to beat ISU! We need to stay out of the Johnson County JaiLOL! No, we need to play hard. Our biggest obstacle is lassitude. We didn't play with passion for 4 quarters last year, not once. The only thing we can control is how hard we play, and when you lack superior talent, you need to play with fire.

Douchacitis. That disease has run rampant through the program the last few years, and it’s time it stopped. Arrests. Lame ass attitudes. Academic issues. Just stop it already. Fucking strap up and play Iowa Football. Throw away your skirts and pussy-ass attitudes and go punch someone in the mouth already. Stop making excuses and start making plays.
IMPACT PLAYER NOT IN THE STARTING LINEUP LAST YEAR

Aside from the "impact" of Casey McMillan throwing the referee into the Jumbotron, this would probably be either of the two probable starting cornerbacks, Amari Spievey and Jordan Bernstine.
Neither of the two has much D-I experience, but they're both supremely athletic and have a history of high-level performance. Spievey, if you'll recall, was ass-bananas at his JUCO this season, and Bernstine was a heavily-recruited safety/corner from DM Lincoln. Sure, tossing a couple unproven corners out at the same time might be risky, but the last time Ferentz did that, they were Antwan Allen and Jovon Johnson, and those two little smurfs did pretty fucking well for themselves. I like Bernstine and Spievey more than the midget marauders.

As of right now, it's Derrell Johnson-Koulianos. Brodell and Stross are listed as the starting wideouts, but the slot receiver - the traditional blocker for the KOK bubble screen - is just as important.
Plus, given the never-ending issues surrounding Brodell's hands, having a sure-handed receiver in the slot can only help. And, yes, I know DJK wasn't exactly sure-handed last year, but he makes Brodell look like Cris Carter.

Shonn Greene - I'm telling you, if he can walk, he'll play.

If he plays, he'll make an impact.

I don’t know where he is going to play or how often he will see the field, but rest assured that when Karl Klug gets on the playing field there will be a lot of impacting – dude can flat out play and has a motor that does not stop.

Whomever the impact player ends up being, it’s likely going to be on the defensive side of the ball. Other nominees: Christian Ballard, Adrian Clayborn, Amari Spievey, Marcus Wilson. (Listing additional players isn’t a cop-out, all four of those guys can fucking ball.)
WHY IOWA WILL SUCCEED THIS YEAR AS OPPOSED TO THE LAST FEW YEARS

Well, the plain and simple fact is that the things that went wrong can't possibly be as bad this year. In '05, it was a horrific case of the drops and bad luck. In '06, the quarterback was at 50% all season and morale bottomed out (note: at

Because we lost nothing. Look, I love Al Young. I love Damian Sims. Tom Busch might be my favorite Hawkeye not named Bob Sanders. I watched Mattison and Iwebema for three seasons. Klink and Humpal played their asses off. Godfrey might have been the best Hawkeye corner since Tom Knight (OK, since Jovon Johnson). The fact is Al was hobbled by injuries and lacked top-end speed, Sims fumbled too much, Iwebema spent the last season bear hugging tackles, and Mattison didn't go boffo until his last year. There are obvious replacements for the defensive graduates, and almost all of them are more athletic. We might not have a running back right now, but we'll eventually find one. Smart freshmen can run in this system; hell, just ask Damian Sims.

I think the offensive line will be better than it's been in 3 years. We have some talented guys, and with some work, we'll have a solid unit. It's been a long time since I had any confidence in our guys up front. This year I do.

The crew is healthy (for now). If the main parts of this team can stay on the field, it’s actually pretty potent on both sides of the ball. If the Hawks can avoid the injury plague and start playing with some moxy, success should come to this team. We won’t see a repeat of the last few years. Not going to happen.
WHY IOWA WILL CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE JUST LIKE THE LAST FEW YEARS

The running game. Holy God, the running game. The spiraling, unstoppable descent of the offensive line. The shaky-at-best secondary. And as SMQ says, if the best thing you can say about a team is who they don't play, do not bet on that team.

Because we lost nothing. This year's starters are, by and large, last year's starters. Surely there were injury problems later in the season, but all the key parts were in place in

We sucked 2 years ago and didn't make any changes. We sucked last year and didn't make any changes. If you keep making the same mistakes over and over - you suck. The end.

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Comments
Iowa's biggest threat to a successful season
Is heart. If Iowa doesn’t start playing with some balls again, like they did back with Matt Roth on the DL, then the whole team is trouble. Two years’ ago, I blamed the lack of fire entirely on Drew Tate. I have since realized that Tate wasn’t the problem, the head coach is. I hope the team finds somebody to lead them and to fire them up, but if they don’t….it’ll be another long year.
by imadirtyoldman on Jul 10, 2008 6:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Um, what?
I have since realized that Tate wasn’t the problem, the head coach is.
That, sir, is one of the craziest things anyone’s ever said in a BHGP comment.
"HS@BHGP: I'm the Dick Button of damn near everything"
by Oops Pow Surprise on Jul 10, 2008 7:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know I'm coming down from a night out, but...
...my sobering brain doesn’t believe heart will improve Ken O’Keefe’s play calling.
by BradBanks4ever on Jul 11, 2008 2:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just so we're clear...
you had absolutely no problem with O’Keefe’s playcalling when Joe Philbin was the O-Line coach and Iowa was leading the conference in scoring, right?
"HS@BHGP: I'm the Dick Button of damn near everything"
by Oops Pow Surprise on Jul 11, 2008 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't think I'm only laying blame on certain coaches
Clearly the line coaches have a lot of work to do, but yeah, I had problems with the vanilla playbook even then. I didn’t complain because things were working, but (and this isn’t hindsight speaking, I legitimately had issues) the playcalling has been poor for awhile.
But I’m not looking to argue with you OPS. Was just my thoughts.
by imadirtyoldman on Jul 11, 2008 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I agree, Tate was not the problem; but neither was coach. Who fuckin knows whose fault it was? Oh and StorminSpank, that was the least boring football preview article I’ve read this year so far. Good job.
by Duez I say on Jul 10, 2008 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, GREAT WORK STORMINSPANK!
All of YOUR WORDS ARE GREAT!!! U R THE BEST!!!
AM I INVISIBLE HERE? AM I NOT THE FLAMING UNICORN [see:above]???
Hmmph!
by jebushchrist on Jul 10, 2008 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phew
At least there are now TWO people who see the genius that is storminspank. About damn time.
by storminspank on Jul 10, 2008 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1) It makes no sense.
Tate was a locker room cancer. To think that Ferentz all of a sudden doesn’t care about his job is asinine. There’s no such thing as a D-I coach that doesn’t care. Did you see him crying when Iowa beat Illinois? Do you honestly think he could, for one second, get away with emotionally checking out after he got his extension?
Christ, fans can be fucking morons sometimes.
"HS@BHGP: I'm the Dick Button of damn near everything"
by Oops Pow Surprise on Jul 10, 2008 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa whoa whoa
Potentially my point was taken out of context and / or I didn’t express it clearly. Let me try to do that now. My point was that I had put everything wrong with the team at Tate’s leadership (or lack thereof). To me, the kid was too emotional, too up and down, to lead a top-tiered team. It was OK when Greenway et al were around, as they were steadying influences, but when they left, it was only Tate doing the talking. And when your talking consists of yelling at teammates for any perceived shortcomings, I felt that the team went down with his screaming.
My opinions changed, though, when the next year came along and the same shit happened. The team still played listless (as some of BHGP’s esteemed writers have even pointed out), the team played without fire, and the team generally underperformed. That, OPS, is no longer a “Tate-is-a-poor-leader” problem, as I originally thought. This is where my point comes into play—I don’t think KF sold out on his team, not in a million years. Nor do I think he should take all the blame, or even most of it. To me, the two coordinators have to take the brunt of the blame (for lack of imaginary playcalling), and the players should owe a duty to the University and the Tiger Hawk on their helmets to play hard. But ultimately, most of those things fall on KF’s shoulders. And this is my point. The last two years or so, KF has not coached well. He has not kept the team in line (not that he can wipe the collective asses of all players, but that’s not my point), he has not gotten the team to play with emotion, and he hasn’t forced his coordinators to make things interesting.
I hope that clears things up. I wasn’t trying to rip on KF, I was merely trying to say that he’s got some work to do. He’s got to find a way to return to Hawkeye Nation circa 2003(ish). Does that make me a moron? If so, I’ll take it.
by imadirtyoldman on Jul 10, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're not a moron
You’re not the one who missed the “last year” part of the “IMPACT PLAYER NOT IN THE STARTING LINEUP LAST YEAR” question.
I am a moron.
"Bob Zook has to be the laziest man alive"
by Hawkeye State on Jul 10, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Put it on whomever you want
There have clearly been some problems with players not working as hard as they need to in the last couple of years. You can put it on Tate if you want, or you can put it on the coaching staff, whatever. I choose to put it on those very players – if you want to pin some of it on the coaching staff for bringing those guys in in the first place, go ahead.
My general retort is that the brunt of the responsibility has to be on the players not performing, rather than whomever one thinks needs to lead.
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by Not Marv Cook on Jul 10, 2008 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of KF after the Illinois Game
Selfish plug by me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHNTp-EVlTE
Edit – Well it WAS online. WTF? Can’t believe they would remove it.
But in regards to Tate, I can’t put any blame on him. At least he had some passion for the game.
by storminspank on Jul 10, 2008 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh come on
“can’t put any blame”? Shirley, you jest.
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by Oops Pow Surprise on Jul 10, 2008 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's ok that you call me Shirley
But jest I do not. Have you seen a jester hat uh-toppa-ma-head?
Tate was a FIRECRACKER! Bang bang pop!
by storminspank on Jul 10, 2008 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys have no idea what you are talking about!
Having someone throw a hissy fit on the field TOTALLY gets me fired up.
by dmbmeg on Jul 10, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Throwing a hissy fit and 300 yards,
as well as being the Big Ten POY is better than pussy footing around the field and having a who gives a fuck attitude.
by storminspank on Jul 10, 2008 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being fired up and firing your team up are two different things. He spent the majority of his last 2 seasons running around pointing the finger at teammates who he deemed unsatisfactory. He was a distraction and part of the problem, not part of a solution.
by jebushchrist on Jul 10, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops Pow Suprise hit the nail on the head..
Comments on Ferentz not caring, and others about him not being a good coach are both idiotic and ignorant. Most real big college football fans, who have a good understanding of the game will tell you that.
In regards to Tate, have a friend on the team, and no this isn’t bs both him and I went to the same hs in illinois and If you feel the need to challenge me on this feel free to email me…And I’ve heard many stories about Tate being a cancer. He was a passionate player, but he was a cancer. That being said, I’ve also heard the same about Jake when he first came in, which I could definately see, because back at Lockport HS he was a man among boys when he played. I’ve also heard Jake has since fixed his attitude for the most part especially after taking an ass kicking last season and alot of guys like him alot now.
Anyway, great post I haven’t had enjoyed an article this much in awhile.
by mahossa on Jul 10, 2008 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
YES!
Oops Pow rivals the great Storminspank in the GENIUS DEPARTMENT! THOSE 2 R THE BEST!
by jebushchrist on Jul 10, 2008 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why borrow when you can steal?
"HS@BHGP: I'm the Dick Button of damn near everything"
by Oops Pow Surprise on Jul 10, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dear Dirty,
You might be crazy, or an idiot, or both, but I can’t disagree. Tate was clearly a problem. He was bad for the team in many ways. He left, and the problems continued. If KF wasn’t to blame, he certainly bears some responsibility for not taking care of the problem of them not being ready to play mentally.
by jebushchrist on Jul 10, 2008 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am all of the above...
...but above all, I am a dirty old man who is sexy with no pants. Of that nobody can deny.
by imadirtyoldman on Jul 10, 2008 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought...
...Jebus was the one not wearing pants around here.
by HoyaGoon on Jul 10, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The schedule
Why get wet over missing Michigan this year? Are you Iowans just excited you won’t have to watch our Carousel of Crap QBs fire three yard bubble screens into the sideline for three hours while the running backs play a game of who-can-take-the-handoff-without-getting-absurdly-drunk-or-breaking-their-hand-or-fumbling-into-the-other-endzone?
Also, I’ve always wondered- is “Iowa State” a real school or is it like a collection of guys from Grinnell and other small colleges that get together to play you once a year?
by Wolverine_Dex on Jul 10, 2008 8:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We lost to Western Michigan dude
No reason to think we’d lose to a rebuilding RR team too.
by imadirtyoldman on Jul 10, 2008 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dex
I am not worried too much about Michigan. In Part Two, you will see our predictions for the Big Ten standings. I’m not that optimistic for the Wolverines… but then again, being good and smart about good ol’ Meechigan football ain’t never been my especialoso.
by storminspank on Jul 10, 2008 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you suggesting
that you guys can crap up bubble screens worse than us?
by chitownhawkeye on Jul 10, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah
I think you know who we lost to, and that was with a good QB.
by Wolverine_Dex on Jul 10, 2008 8:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
HOT HOT HOT
For the record, I’d have bet an internal organ on Appalachian State beating Western Michigan by double digits.
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by Oops Pow Surprise on Jul 10, 2008 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phil Steele's all Big Ten teams
Did anyone see these? Black Shoe Diaries put them up. Nate Guillory is a 4th team RB. Surely this must fall under, “any starting RB for Iowa is good for at least 4th team, numbers wise” right?
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by Not Marv Cook on Jul 10, 2008 2:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, look who is left
Remember, 4th team is 8th-best running back in the league. Who didn’t make it?
Marcus Thigpen, Indiana – Ran for 350 less than the quarterback last season. Fail.
Duane Bennett, Minnesota – Ran for 442 last season while backing up Pinnix, but Brewster has promised spread n’ shred, and his carries may be limited
Daniel Dufrane, Illinois – Good scheme for running the ball, but 294 yards last year doesn’t exactly instill confidence. He’ll also likely split carries with Troy Pollard. To his credit, he successfully planned an escape from Shawshank State Penitentiary.
Guillory, despite not necessarily being the starter, is basically a winner by default. Congrats, Mr. Guillory!
"Bob Zook has to be the laziest man alive"
by Hawkeye State on Jul 10, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's sort of like...
winning the Cy-Hawk series.
by storminspank on Jul 10, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which we know very little about.
by jebushchrist on Jul 10, 2008 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or...
winning the CFP Award for “Best New Blog”.
I KID! I KID!
by dmbmeg on Jul 10, 2008 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't see you winning anything
"HS@BHGP: I'm the Dick Button of damn near everything"
by Oops Pow Surprise on Jul 10, 2008 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
[Flllleeeeexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx}
by jebushchrist on Jul 10, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that
why you’ve been swelling with pride?
by chitownhawkeye on Jul 10, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like pictures....
“a.) make your head explode”
“b.) cause you to become pregnant”
“c.) force you to empty your bowels”
“We sucked 2 years ago and didn’t make any changes. We sucked last year and didn’t make any changes. If you keep making the same mistakes over and over – you suck. The end” Bravo.
by hawkfaninboston on Jul 10, 2008 11:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gladly..
Scanners. Go rent it. Great movie.
National Enquirer and the sorts are great for news.
I don’t really know how to explain the third picture.
Basically, reading hurts my head. I like pictures. This post was to a] make my head explode b] cause me to become pregnant and c] force me to empty my bowels.
I then quoted JHC. then typed “Bravo”. This was to indicate that I liked what he said.
by hawkfaninboston on Jul 10, 2008 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
in that case...
IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE!
(not really)
by dmbmeg on Jul 10, 2008 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait, I can help.
Drink a bottle of Everclear in 5 seconds. Then read that again.
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by Oops Pow Surprise on Jul 10, 2008 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, here's the deal
Meg, you handle the day shift; hawkfaninboston, you handle the night shift.
We can’t have both of you derailing threads at the same time.
by jebushchrist on Jul 10, 2008 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to watch a game with HawkFanInBoston
by Duez I say on Jul 12, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Armageddon
We’re one well-placed mark of the beast away from the end of days. Thanks, meg and boston!
"Bob Zook has to be the laziest man alive"
by Hawkeye State on Jul 10, 2008 11:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is no one going to comment on the ridiculous #18 photoshopped on that picture of Edds?
"Bob Zook has to be the laziest man alive"
by Hawkeye State on Jul 11, 2008 8:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think you need to remember where you are. It’s not like you photoshopped him into My Lai.
I chuckled at it, FWIW.
by jebushchrist on Jul 11, 2008 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that's a Photoshop, fwiw
"HS@BHGP: I'm the Dick Button of damn near everything"
by Oops Pow Surprise on Jul 11, 2008 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course it's a Photoshop
If you look at the picture I made of Karl Klug (maybe you didn’t realize that one was PSed), the numbers on his jersey (front of train) are the same as A.J. Edds (see: Greenway). I thought it was obvious that I was implying Edds was going to be the next Greenway, not only by photoshopping his jersey, but, umm… saying it right in my explanation. I guess, perhaps, I was too subtle? At least HS got it.
by storminspank on Jul 11, 2008 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. I’m sticking by “original.”
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by Oops Pow Surprise on Jul 11, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't get ANYTHING past you
You. Are. Good.
by storminspank on Jul 11, 2008 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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