Iowa-ISU "Rivalry" Gets Re-Upped For 10 More Years
by Oops Pow Surprise on Jun 4, 2008 4:47 PM CDT
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Yet the Hawkeyes continue to fall to them.
Interesting how that works :D
by NittanyWhiteOut.com on Jun 4, 2008 6:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The W-L has nothing to do with it
They’re a little brother program who can’t even fill their pathetic little stadium. They have an athletic budget that’s half of Iowa’s and the worst in the BXII. Iowa gains nothing from the rivalry. That’d be true if Iowa won 10 of 10 games, or 5 of 10, or (god forbid) 1 in 10. It’s rinky-dink bullshit. You think Iowa wouldn’t be better off and a little more prominent on a national basis if they played, let’s say, Oregon this fall? Or even Oregon State?
It’d be one thing if ISU was in the BXI, but they’re not. So Iowa’s one of the few programs (Colorado, PSU, um, there’s probably more, but not many) who has to waste a non-conference slot on an in-state “rival.”
Fuck a Iowa State.
by Oops Pow Surprise on Jun 5, 2008 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh
what a load of crap.
You’re biggest problem is that there isn’t much of a difference between their rinky-dink and your rinky-dink until you start winning against them on a regular basis.
Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
Corn Nation!
by Jon Johnston on Jun 6, 2008 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our Cobs are Bigger Than Yours?
Corn Blight, you are a tool.
Duez I say
by Duez I say on Jun 6, 2008 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
for Nebraska fans, that's positively cerebral
by Oops Pow Surprise on Jun 6, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
especially
online.
tool…. hmmmmm. Is that a good thing?
Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
Corn Nation!
by Jon Johnston on Jun 6, 2008 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OOPS - Scheduling
As much as I would love to see Iowa play a PAC-10 team. You know, as well as I do, that if the ISU game was dropped we’d see games against barnburners like Bowling Green, Western Kentucky, or SMU. Oregon (or, hell, even Washington) would be even a step up, but our program has never had the kahoneys to schedule anyone. The same goes for basketball.
by storminspank on Jun 10, 2008 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We start a home and home with Arizona next year.
Last time I checked, they were in the Pac-10. Compare our non-conference schedules with any and all programs of similar size and stature. They’re no different. This is such a straw argument its not even funny.
Syracuse was decent when we contracted with them. Pitt is a decent non-conference game. ASU was respectable, as is the U of A. We tried to get Mizzou and they backed out. We played Nebraska and were willing to continue to. They didn’t want to. Like it or not, ISU is an in-state Big XII program and we have to play them.
Iowa does just fine with their non-conference scheduling. Look at Wisconsin’s non-conference schedules the last few seasons. Ridiculous.
by DonnyDonovan on Jun 10, 2008 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My point is...
if Iowa canceled the ISU series, they would pick up yet another cupcake to fill the void. They wouldn’t go out and grab a perennial Top 25 team from a power conference. Iowa just does not do that. If Iowa schedules anyone from a BCS conf., it’s someone who is likely to finish in the middle of the pack in their conf.
Iowa will not schedule Texas, Florida, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, etc… heck, we won’t even schedule CAL, Clemson, Virginia, WV, Rutgers, etc… Instead we either hook up with cupcakes or teams from power conferences that would finish in the middle of the Big Ten year in and year out.
by storminspank on Jun 10, 2008 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a mighty bold statement
especially considering it’s totally unverifiable.
Donny’s got evidence on his side, broseph. He does that a lot.
by Oops Pow Surprise on Jun 12, 2008 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Courtside
They say they are going to have club seats on the floor, courtside. What a rowdy bunch I’m sure all those people will be. We’ll look soooo exciting on TV.
Duez I say
by Duez I say on Jun 4, 2008 9:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WTF
I have no idea why I posted that comment here. It was for another article on another website. AIDs.
Duez I say
by Duez I say on Jun 5, 2008 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so....why
even post about it? It should have been ignored.
Hawks....yup, I like 'em
by Rozhawkfan on Jun 5, 2008 8:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Shortest community guidelines ever.
I love it. I only recently found you guys a couple of weeks ago and was just waiting for the changeover. I’m glad to be here now—been waiting for a good Hawkeyes blog.
by tyger1147 on Jun 5, 2008 10:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Iowa/ISU rivalry
The way I understood it, or at least saw it, in my 4 years at Iowa (2001-2005) was that ISU cared 100x more about the rivalry than Iowa did. The assumption is based off an average guess/estimate, and I’m excluding the 2 extremes. One of being the northshore sorority girl that is clueless to her own existence and the other is the rube farm boy that is oblivious to anything outside of the state of Iowa, aside from other Big 10 or Big 12 schools. He also feel a deep connection with Toby Keiths music and buys Kenny Chesney CDs at Wal-Mart. ANYWAY, to me it was clearly a one sided rivalry on both the emotional and athletic front. Maybe I’m wrong and/or just have an overall apathy towards non Chicago sports. I was, however, very annoyed and irate when the Hawks blew that lead in the 2002 season at Kinnick. The trophy name was something that kind of always bugged me. The Cy-Hawk trophy? Come on let’s be creative, we can do better Iowa.
by TheBlackMetalMcGrath on Jun 5, 2008 12:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Timing of game always sucks
It’s not so much THAT they play ISU as WHEN they play them. WTF. Two, three games into the season? Somebody loses and that fookin’ stinks for the rest of the season. Why can’t they play last game of the season?
If Iowa beats ISU in game three, we’re deluded a bit longer that they rock.
If they lose, it’s over. Get back into baseball or thle NFL. It’s a cruel, nasty loss. Like Jake getting his ass and arm torn off by that powerful ISU team. What a joke.
Or it won’t matter if Iowa starts getting people BETTER than the calibre of big Jake. You Jakes supporters need a jock check. That boy sucks and ain’t never getting better.
Robobubba has spoken!
by robobubba on Jun 5, 2008 10:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jake
Jake could kick your ass
Duez I say
by Duez I say on Jun 6, 2008 6:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably
But that doesn’t mean he isn’t an abysmal quarterback. Take, for instance, the MSU game last year (which Iowa somehow won, mostly due to hilarious incompetence on MSU’s part) – 5 for 22. That’s beyond even Anthony Morelli-level awful. It should never happen in 1-A college football unless your quarterback has a dislocated shoulder and two broken fingers.
by SpartanDan on Jun 6, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt he could kick my AARP ass
That’s what I’m sayin’...he should be in MMA (multiple martial arts), not in my Iowa backfield.
The boy needs a new rotator cuff, Tin Man oil, sumpin/!!!!!!!
Robobubba has spoken!
by robobubba on Jun 7, 2008 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll agree
That ISU generally cares more about the game than Iowa.
That’s no excuse for Iowa’s lack of showing up in most of the games.
by CrossCyed on Jun 6, 2008 2:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You have to be shitting me....ISU cares more?
Perhaps that is why ISU has been winning more lately….they care more, so they try harder. Perhaps the Hawks should pull their heads out of their asses, and care a little bit more. Then we might get to the point where we win 15 in a row again.
Hawks....yup, I like 'em
by Rozhawkfan on Jun 6, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure saying ISU cares more really captures it … but there’s definitely a difference in how the teams approach the game. For ISU, a win makes their season. For Iowa, a win means little (because ISU is, to be frank, awful), but losing means enduring the mockery of Cyclone fans for a whole year. Kind of like what happens with Michigan and MSU, except that every time MSU looks like they’re going to win they find some hilariously (to objective observers, anyway – I’m usually bashing my forehead against the wall in frustration) improbable way to fuck it up.
by SpartanDan on Jun 7, 2008 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
(Sorry about replying to myself, I just forgot something in the post above.)
It basically comes down to this: ISU desperately wants to win that game every year. Iowa just doesn’t want to lose. In rivalries that are one-sided by talent but not in results, that’s almost always the case.
by SpartanDan on Jun 7, 2008 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is just great.
Every thread about Iowa football, even if the initial article has NOTHING to do with the QB position, is going to turn into this Jake Christensen bullshit. It will be as bad as every online conversation about Iowa basketball between 2001 and 2007 turning into a referendum on Steve Alford.
I can’t wait until Jake comes out this year, plays well behind a better OL and with veteran receivers, and shuts all you retards up. Oh wait, it won’t. You’ll still find reason to bitch.
As far as the Cyclones, yeah, they suck, but until Iowa starts beating them at their oversized high school stadium more than once a decade we can’t crow too much or denounce the “rivalry” with too much fervor.
by DonnyDonovan on Jun 6, 2008 3:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
D3 (deleriousdonnydonovan), re Jake
Knowing, loving and being related to several mentally disabled folk, I resent ever hearing/seeing the R word from people with the capacity to know better. So, please start knowing better.
Exhibit A: for Jake’s ineptness: Western Michigan game. OL had all year to get experience, just like Jake. At home, in front of 70,000 of all that is Black and Gold, he singlehandedly (and that’s an understatement) gave the game to the mighty Broncos. Two INTs..Yeah, there was a fumble.
In a game like that, the OL did not let him down against a lesser opponent. He was out-QBed, out-played.
That’s the last thing on his resume. And i should be hopeful a beefy 2008 OL will reduce his 46 sacks in 2007????
He holds the ball too long. He can’t throw deep. There’s a hitch in his arm. It’s all bad. And sad.
Sure hope you’re right
But you're wrong about the R word.Robobubba has spoken!
by robobubba on Jun 7, 2008 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying Jake was always good last year.
Many times he wasn’t. But I don’t think it’s hopeless either. And my point is that the debate is constant and already tiresome. He’ll be what he is in 2008. I think it might be a lot better. We both hope I’m right.
I’m going to counter and say the reason Iowa lost the WMU game was a ludicrious inability to get them off the field. 3rd and 5. 3rd and 10. 3rd and 15. Didn’t matter. An offense that had been average at best all season got first down after first down against a Big Ten defense. On the road. So to say Jake singlehandedly cost Iowa that game is retarded asinine.
As for my word choice, it’s just that, a word. If you want to be the BHGP word police that’s fine. No offense was intended. I may use it again if I think it best conveys what I’m trying to say. I may not. It’s nothing personal.
by DonnyDonovan on Jun 8, 2008 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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