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Caring is Creepy: Big Ten Bloggers Recruiting Roundtable

Fellow SBN blogger and Big Ten Blogger Founding Father Maize n' Brew Dave can't get enough recruiting ["What's a petter-ass, Walter?" -- ed.], so he posted an impromptu roundtable.  Hey, it's better than reading about last night's basketball game, right?

By the way, all videos referenced here are at gohawks.com.

1. As a general question, evaluate your recruiting class. Is it more or less what you expected, were you pleasantly surprised or horribly, horribly disappointed? Were your team's needs adequately addressed or will you be starting a two star running back at center next year?

What most people don't know is I base my evaluation on a special recruiting class checklist:

  • Road grader offensive guard from isolated mountain west state - CHECK (Casey McMillan)
  • DE/OLB who hits like the bastard son of Matt Roth - CHECK (Steve Bigach; that video is not to be missed, and should be played with Led Zeppelin's "Immigrant Song" turned up to 11 for full effect)
  • Kicker who can throw a 20-yard out pattern - CHECK (Trent Mossbrucker)
  • Defensive back whose name immediately lends itself to Clubber Lang references - CHECK (DeMarco Paine)
  • Defensive lineman who could not be bought persuaded at the last minute by the sweater vests - CHECK (Joe Gaglione)
  • Tight end whose entire recruiting video consists of him refusing to give up on a block - CHECK (Jonathan Gimm)

That is six for six.  The last class to get six for six?  The 1979 BYU Cougars.  I think we all know how that ended up, don't we? [No, we don't, you old bastard. -- ed.] They won the national championship in 1984. [Who did they beat, West Point? -- ed.] They beat Michigan in the Holiday Bowl. [Did they even wear facemasks?  Was BYU running the Wing T?  Was Red Grange playing tailback? -- ed.] Shut up, inner monologue.



2. Who were the big catches in your recruiting class? Name two players matriculating to your school whose existence everyone else in the Big Ten will curse for the next four years.

David Cato, who will eventually be paired with Jordan Bernstine as the next set of guided missiles at safety for Iowa.*  Sumbitch will take your head off just for looking at him cross-eyed.

Jeff Brinson, who will eventually convince KOK to institute the Wing T offense.  We will run nothing but counters and traps, and we will get 7 yards per carry behind the blocking of McMillan and Gimm.  Take your spread option and shove it up your ass, Michigan.  We're going old school here.



3. You can't win them all. Maybe some slick talking carpetbagger schmoozed his way into your living room, sold you a set of ginzu knives made out of tin foil, and walked off with your wife and your star recruit. Perhaps an in-state lock who grew up with [Insert University Here] posters on his wall and your coach's face tattooed on his arm decided to go elsewhere for reasons no one seems to understand? Did your recruiting class lose someone big on signing day, who was it, and was your school able to yoink someone else to cover his loss?

We didn't gain or lose on signing day, despite Jim Tressel's best efforts.  Earlier this winter, we lost two running backs to Zooker, but that's to be expected; Ferentz preaches the values of hard work and personal development, and Zooker knows how to do magic.  Little known fact: High school kids dig magic.


They're called illusions, guy

Of course, we got John Wienke, who was going to Michigan until learning he was allergic to snake oil.  We'll be glad to have him; the last time we had a 6'4" statuesque Drew Bledsoe clone behind center, we beat Michigan and Florida.  Where have you gone, Nathan Chandler?


Single tear.

We also picked off cornerback Greg Castillo from Villanova at the last minute, thereby fulfilling our "white defensive back" quota for the year.  Taking a recruit from Villanova is a little like taking candy from the love child of Robert Gallery and Hellga from American Gladiators; you might have no trouble winning now, but if that baby gets a chance later (basketball season), it's going to beat you like a rented mule.



4. There's been a spirited debate about this whole "Coaches' Code" among the members of the Big Ten coaching fraternity. Do you believe this exists or is it a line being floated by the guys who couldn't keep their recruiting classes together? Bonus points for declaring your coach a poacher or a poachee in creative fashion!

If it existed -- and I think it did, to a certain extent -- it was forgotten back when JoePa could still control his own bowel movements.  There's too much money on the line for any kind of "gentlemen's agreement" between the coaches or schools.  This is especially true now, with the influx of coaches from other BCS conferences; believe me when I tell you Zooker and RichRod would tell you to take your "gentlemen's agreement" and shove it up your ass.  Frankly, that's how it should be.  Everyone seems to agree there is probably a better way of governing recruiting practices, but as long as the current rules are in place, coaches should not limit their opportunities in the name of a chivalrous obligation to the conference or its other coaches.  Every man for himself, I say.

As for Ferentz, he's neither a poacher or poachee.  He's repeatedly said he doesn't actively recruit kids who are verbally committed to another program, but he's happy to take their call if they are having second thoughts (which is precisely what happened with Wienke, though he may have made a slight push with Castillo).  It's the civilized way of poaching, unlike sending unsolicited DVD's of your win over aOSU to kids pledged elsewhere like the Zooker, or sending unsolicited DVD's of your tryst with Angela Lansbury like Joe Paterno.


You can't avoid that mental image.  Give in.



5. Finally, who's the slickest, smoovest, most Billy Dee Williamsesque recruiter in the Big Ten? Who's the worst, most incompetent, "trip over the flat tire on his Yugo" recruiter in the Big Ten?

The Zooker is the obvious choice for slickest, but I'm going to go with Tressel.  While Zook and Rodriguez take all the heat, Sweatervest flies under the radar, holding down Ohio, occasionally raiding the south, bringing in five-star recruit after five-star recruit, and keeping Columbus Cadillac dealerships in the black.  While Zook will gladly show you who is in his Five, Tressel doesn't need to publicize how he gets the job done; just the fact that it's done should be enough.  If Zook is Rico Suave, Tressel is Julio Iglesias.

As for most inept, it's hard to fault Pat Fitzgerald for not getting top-notch recruits to Northwestern, and I'm willing to give Dantonio a break for his first year in East Lansing.  The most incompetent recruiter, then, would have to be the whiner.  Joe Tiller never stops complaining, especially about Michigan, and yet refuses to change anything to make himself or his staff more competitive on the recruiting trail.  Of course, much like Iowa, Purdue somehow manages to survive on its never-ending string of 2- and 3-star players.  Go figure.


* -- For the coaching staff's talk of "Offensive Line University," the highest percentage of Iowa starters to make it to the NFL during the Ferentz era are safeties.  Sean Considine and Marcus Paschal are both with the Eagles.  Derek Pagel had a cup of coffee in the NFL, as did Matt Bowen.  I feel like I'm forgetting someone...

Oh yeah, that guy.

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Agreed.

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

Black and Gold Blood: Cubbie Blue Heart

by MissouriHawk on Feb 16, 2008 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Decrepit Deathmask, She Wrote!

Her leathery and gaunt Palpatine-like visage will haunt our dreams.  Only the airy vacuous smile of her non-evil counterpart Betty White, can save us from the Lansburian soul-draining horror of this real-life Dementor.

by Bucketochicken on Feb 16, 2008 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

JoePa weighs in

YES I DID RELATE WITH MISS LANSBURY

I didn't ask abou

IF I HAD TO DESCRIBE HER INTIMATE AREA IN ONE WORD

Please don't. I'm begging you.

MEATY

by Adam Jacobi on Feb 16, 2008 11:27 AM CST reply actions  

Meaty?

I'm thinking more like the musty, threadbare and tattered color-faded drapes in the darkened parlor of a long-deserted English castle.  With beetles.  Lots and lots of beetles.

by Bucketochicken on Feb 16, 2008 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

well it was back in like 1934

I'm sure she was a real piece back then.

by Adam Jacobi on Feb 16, 2008 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Valid point
Good call - she'd have been only in her mid-50s then, plenty young enough for a randy septegenarian like JoePa to dance the horizontal Charleston with.  All it took was his spot-on FDR impression and a tall, cool glass of buttermilk, and she was removing her bloomers with a ferocity hitherto unseen since Anne Boleyn took it off for Henry VIII.

by Bucketochicken on Feb 16, 2008 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow

Never has the phrase "Horizontal Charleston" been more apt.

by Patrick Vint on Feb 16, 2008 6:40 PM CST up reply actions  

"Someone is really damn bitter..."

No more so than you are sensitive, apparently.

by Bucketochicken on Feb 16, 2008 2:28 PM CST reply actions  

sigh

Bucktards are the worst. "We won so I'm right!"

Go home and let the grownups talk.

by Adam Jacobi on Feb 16, 2008 2:32 PM CST reply actions  

Bigach and Lansbury

Just watched the Bigach video - seems to have a motor and attitude of Mitch King - he just blows through people.

As you probably know, Chandler was 6'7" (I think your reference was to Wienke being 6'4").  Chandler was the tallest QB in D-1 that year, second in weight behind the "Hefty Lefty", Jared Lorenzen.  Chandler version I was also reasonably mobile; he had a 40+ yd scramble against ISU and, going into the Wisky game that year, was tied with F. Russell with five rushing TDs.

As far as Angela L goes, all I can say is - Intrigue.

http://www.kyintrigue.com/kyintrigue...

by hdhawk on Feb 16, 2008 3:02 PM CST reply actions  

Ok, so I make a post about Angela Lansbury and a

vaginal lubricant (oh, excuse me, personal lubricant) and 30 minutes later it's followed by some idiotic OSU moron and and thorough HS beatdown.  HS, well done.

Come to think of it, the time I went to a game in Columbus, I can understand why my original premise with A.L. would put an OSU grad in heat.  OSU person, go find yourself an old episode of "Murder She Wrote."

by hdhawk on Feb 16, 2008 9:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Ahem

Check and mate.

And then there's this.

And this.

Let's not forget that it's not just Tressel.  The entire athletic department gets into the act.

Thanks for playing, asshole.  Go back to your cave.

by Patrick Vint on Feb 16, 2008 6:39 PM CST reply actions  

Once is a mistake

Twice might be a coincidence.

Three times is a pattern of conduct.

Ohio State's entire athletic department, and the football program in general, are known rulebreakers.  Those are the facts, and they are uncontroverted.

I'm not entirely sure why you're even here arguing.  You admit Tressel & Co. are bribing players.  You admit your team cheats.  So why are you complaining, again?

And, by the way, do you really want to compare your program with Miami, Alabama, et. al.?  Your "every other corrupt, soulless football program in the country is doing it, so why can't we?" argument rings hollow, especially considering the evidence of cheating at OSU is more damning than that at any other program.  So you cheat like every other corrupt program, only you're not as good at covering it up?  Really?  That's the argument you're going with?  Good luck with that.

To say we're reaching back into the past, then run out an old loss to Northwestern as some sort of "proof" defines your idiocy.  At least we beat Illinois this season.

Why am I even talking to you, Katzenmoyer?  You have been excommunicated.  Call Mo, get your goose on, and leave the discussion thread to those who can make a coherent argument.

by Patrick Vint on Feb 16, 2008 8:32 PM CST reply actions  

Hey! Don't call us cheaters.

"Yeah, we cheat, but that's no reason to call us cheaters!"

They don't teach logic at OSU, do they?

by Patrick Vint on Feb 16, 2008 8:33 PM CST reply actions  

Jealousy

I know it's just jealousy, Anon.  You're jealous of a program that has actually beaten Florida and LSU.  It's OK to admit it.

by Patrick Vint on Feb 16, 2008 9:02 PM CST reply actions  

I read every word above

and, unlike A. Katzenmoyer, an attendee of your "top 50 national university", I understand every word.  

To answer your question, how can an OSU fan's obsession with Angela Lansbury go wrong?  Well, when the library runs out of "Murder She Wrote" episodes, apparently it goes like this:
http://deadspin.com/sports/youtube/t...

by hdhawk on Feb 16, 2008 10:05 PM CST reply actions  

yes, of course,

any line of discussion that involves Andy Katzenmoyer, a 82-year-old Angela Lansbury and Vagisil requires significant fact checking and a paralegal.

Lighten up, douchebag.

by hdhawk on Feb 16, 2008 10:51 PM CST reply actions  

I'm Mr Gold Pants

and Charlie Columbus.
You are in serious need of something to do.

Stolen From the Heart is on Lifetime right now. It has Tracey Gold and Barbara Mandrell. Make it happen, C-Dog.

by jebushchrist on Feb 17, 2008 11:10 AM CST reply actions  

HA!

Keep digging, we can still see you.

by jebushchrist on Feb 17, 2008 11:11 AM CST reply actions  

I would strongly advise against using the term

"any other major program."

Because USC, Michigan, Texas, Nebraska, LSU, WFVU, Notre Dame (shudder), and others are perfectly able to say that aOSU is a much worse, serial violator of NCAA rules than they themselves are.

As my esteemed colleague advised, keep digging.

by Adam Jacobi on Feb 17, 2008 12:02 PM CST reply actions  

Jesus Christ, retard

What part of HS's "Ahem" post don't you understand?

by Adam Jacobi on Feb 17, 2008 12:42 PM CST reply actions  

whoa

I realize I am late, but did...did...did a Buckeye fan just claim academic superiority over...some else? Good lord, so this is what the end of the world feels like.

Also, may I point out that this is a Big 10 blog, hence the focus on tOSU. Your asshat fans are the only ones who come on here and leave comments like this. I mean, I have yet to see a PSU fan come here and accuse OPS of soiling the legacy of JoePa with his Fergie posts.

Seriously dude, lighten up.

by dmbmeg on Feb 17, 2008 4:09 PM CST reply actions  

Rule #1, and I'm sorry it came to this

Don't argue with a tOSU fan.  Their football team is perenially (#2, by a long ways) the best, they have the highest academic standing in the free world (behind UM, Northwestern and Wisky; also barely above Iowa, whom they love to berate for being Iowa), and they are just plain Gods (apparently at bribing TA's and allowing their athletes to run roughshod over campus, but I digress).  So don't you see?  tOSU is the best (almost, it depends on who you ask; tOSU fans or the rest of the country)!  This guy is just like every other tOSU fan on the planet, and he typifies the very reason that college fans despise the Bucks (well, that and the fact that tOSU makes the title game on a weak-ass schedule, only to get their asses handed to them -- both basketball AND football).  Let it go, buddy.  This whole thing is a JOKE; the rips on tOSU, while valid, are still just jokes.  Don't read it if you don't like it.  Douche.

by jason3kidd on Feb 18, 2008 5:58 PM CST reply actions  

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