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The Greene Party

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Every Iowa day from December to March cold, bleak, and gray.  The term "day job" takes on a literate meaning; most people drive to work at dawn and leave well after dusk.  A foot of snow covers the freshly-harvested fields by Christmas, and it stays there until mid-March.  The daytime sky is perpetually overcast, threatening another blast of snow or ice or pure unadulterated cold.  By January, everything is the same color of gray.  If you stood in a treeless field, it's entirely possible you could mistake the distant ground for the sky.  It's difficult to discern what is ahead.  There is no horizon.

This is all to say that Shonn Greene won't be a Heisman finalist.


This time last year, we had no idea who would be playing halfback.  Nate Guillory had just signed a letter of intent, and had some buzz as a poor man's Fred Russell.  Jevon Pugh was leaving the team...only he wasn't...only, yeah, he was.  The littany of four-star recruits hadn't panned out.  Paki O'Meara started the spring game, for Christ's sake.*

Always in the background, lurking as an option, was Shonn Greene.  The positives?  We knew who he was, which was far more than we could say for any other potential halfback.  Still, there were grade questions, and the infamous Albert Young "TV" quote.  If hopeful skepticism is an acceptable, non-oxymoronic emotion, then you could have colored us hopefully skeptical.

You could hear the sigh of relief from the football offices when Greene hit campus.  Suddenly, Ferentz's "we're totally fucked at halfback" hints at press conferences were replaced with "we're totally fucked at quarterback" hints.  We were confident.  We were a little giddy.

Turns out, we couldn't see the ground for the sky.  We couldn't see what was ahead.  There was no horizon.



* -- This is not meant as a slight to the PAKIBOMB, who was somewhere between capable and spectacular as a pass-blocker and special teams star this season.  It's just, you know, Paki as a starting halfback?  The locusts were mere moments away.

Star-divide

 

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He blew through the initial series of cupcakes while getting his legs under him, then took out Iowa State by racking up 120 yards on 6 yards a carry on a miserable day and despite the complete lack of a passing game.  The next week, he outplayed LaSean McCoy in a one-point loss at Pitt.  It was the start of a trend; Iowa faced McCoy, Tyrell Sutton, Javon Ringer, P.J. Hill, Evan Royster, and Kory Sheets, and Greene outperformed them all.  In fact, Greene out-rushed every opposing back he faced this season (the closest, strangely enough, was Maine's Jhamal Fluellen).  It's not often raised by Greene supporters (and it's equally indicative of the success of Iowa's rush defense) but that fact says more about Greene's importance to Iowa's success in a run-first offense and stop-the-run-first defense than the 100-yard game streak.

He was brought to a halt only twice, and Iowa lost both games.  Against Northwestern, Greene was the victim of what can only be described as a blatant helmet-to-helmet cheap shot from JNWU safety Brad Phillips (later described by Fitzgerald as a "big play") that knocked him out.  Literally.  Despite a concussion, he returned the next week and pounded Michigan State for 157, but came up short when MSU linebacker Brandon Lloyd guessed right on 4th and 1.

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He ran for a mere 115 in a half-game of work against hapless Indiana.  But it was the next week, facing Wisconsin, where Greene went from "great running back" to "force of nature," picking his way through holes and shrugging off arm tackles on his way to 217 yards rushing and four touchdowns, including a 34-yard touchdown run where he ran through four would-be tacklers and a 52-yard sprint through the middle of the demoralized Badger defense.  He scored the tying touchdown against Illinois, only to watch the bend-but-don't-break defense bend just a little too much.  The next week, he went public.

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As you all know, Penn State entered the November 8 game at Kinnick undefeated, two weeks removed from holding Beanie Wells to 55 yards on 22 carries in a 13-6 win at Ohio State.  In nine games, only one running back had recorded 100 yards on the Nittany Lions.  We were told Iowa hadn't seen a defense like this.  We were told this was where the Shonn Greene Experience would come to an end.  It took all of two bruising runs for Penn State to realize "We stopped Beanie Wells" equaled "We ain't seen shit."  By the end of the night, Iowa had defeated the undefeated, recording arguably the most important win of the Ferentz era.  Greene's line: 28 carries, 117 yards, 2 touchdowns.  Cue Heisman talk.

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If Greene's performance against Penn State was remarkable for its sheer success, his 211-yard demolition of Purdue was remarkable for its sheer brutality.  Greene treated Frank Duong like his little brother, spinning through the senior safety on his first touchdown, then flattening him for the second.  The next week, Greene broke the Iowa single-season rushing record and finished an eleventh 100-yard game in a cathartic beatdown of Minnesota.


Iowa's had great seasons by great backs before.  Dennis Mosley ran for 1,267 yards in Hayden Fry's first season.  Ronnie Harmon posted 1,166 en route to the Rose Bowl in 1985 (we won't discuss what Ronnie did at that Rose Bowl).  Sedrick Shaw sandwiched a school record 1,477 yards in 1995 between 1000+ yard campaigns in 1994 and 1996.  Tavian Banks - himself a one-year starter - bested Shaw's record in 1997, rushing for 1,691 yards.  Banks begat Ladell Betts, who begat Fred Russell, who begat Al Young, 1000 yard rushers all.

Tavian Banks was a combination of size, speed, and remarkable vision never before seen in black and gold.  Betts was hard-nosed, and racked up yards through what appeared to be pure force of will (his 1,090 yards for the 2000 Hawkeyes is beyond impressive, in retrospect).  Russell was a fucking blast to watch, skipping around behind a mammoth offensive line, blasting through a hole, making that high-kick stutter step, then changing direction on a dime.  Al was...well, Al was Al.  They were all great backs.

None of them can hold Shonn Greene's jock.

Not one played for a team with a first-year starting quarterback who spent the offseason as an injured backup.  Just one (Betts) played for a team with such a tepid passing game and young supporting cast (and Betts' team went 3-9).  Not one shouldered the load as much as Greene.  And not a single one of them put up the numbers Greene did, and in the way Greene did it.

Ask an Iowa fan in his mid-30's about Nick Bell and you will get some combination of grunts, growls, and orgasmic groans.  It's not necessarily that Bell was that good a halfback; in two years as a starter, Bell rushed for 1,612 yards and 16 touchdowns.  It isn't Bell's numbers that make grown men go all Cro-Magnon, it is the way he did it.  Bell was a massive halfback - 6'2", 255 pounds - and had a pretty good idea of how to use it.  He ran directly at defenders, and ran through a good number of them.  His style reminded you of the kind of football your grandpa would like, the grandpa who ran a farm and drank beer at the VFW every night and was known throughout his hometown as a sonuvabitch.  It was so straightforward.  It was so tough.  It was so...Midwestern.  It's not just Nick Bell, either; ask the typical season ticket holder who their favorite non-Iowa halfback is, and I guarantee 75% grudgingly name the oversized, bruising Big Ten halfback du jour.

This year, Greene is that back.  He doesn't just run the ball; he runs like he'll never have another carry.  He doesn't avoid contact; he lowers his shoulder, speeds up, and tries to turn would-be tacklers into fertilizer.  He doesn't remind you of a runaway beer truck; he reminds you of a semi hauling a monster truck unleashed from the bowels of hell.  He doesn't bounce around after the play; he slowly rises to his feet, usually rubbing his knee or lower back like your sonuvabitch grandpa getting out of bed, adjusts his pads, and returns to the huddle to find his next target.  He runs the ball like a sonuvabitch.  Believe me, for an Iowa back, there's no higher accolade. 

The irony, of course, was that Bell was from the most-un-Midwestern Las Vegas.  Harmon and Shaw, also known to run over a defender or two, were from New Jersey and Texas, respectively.  Greene, too, is that prototypical Midwestern back not actually from the Midwest.  It's as if these poor giant halfbacks stuck in places where their talents are so misunderstood come to Iowa City (or Madison, I guess) where they can be truly appreciated.  Don't worry about being from Jersey, Shonn.  Your secret is safe with us.


Greene is a finalist for the Doak Walker Award, given to the nation's best running back, and he's probably the prohibitive favorite to win.  He won the Chicago Tribune Silver Football, given to the Big Ten's Most Valuable Player.  He's a first-team All-American, and a near-unanimous first-team All-Conference selection.  He could well be the most-credentialed Iowa player since Chuck Long; not even Brad Banks was a first-team All-America selection.

But Greene won't win the Heisman.  Maybe it's the correct choice.  Maybe four losses is a disqualifier unless they come with an absurd, MSM-driven cult of personality.


It's amazing Danielson could talk so clearly with Tebow's balls in his mouth.

Maybe Colt McCoy or Sam Bradford is the most valuable player in college football for racking up ridiculous numbers against teams defenseless against their powers (or simply defenseless).  Maybe the Heisman is inherently the province of quarterbacks, and it takes a truly superhuman effort to break the signalcallers' stranglehold on the trophy.  Maybe Greene didn't deserve the Heisman.  But if you ask anyone who played against him, who was left grasping for his jersey or flattened into the turf, I guarantee they'd say otherwise.

Heisman or not, Greene is almost certainly gone at the end of the year.  There are no senior running backs projected as first-round NFL selections, Greene is 23 years old, and - while there's no questioning his classroom commitment since his return - all evidence to date indicates Shonn isn't exactly enamored with school.  Iowa fans have been working through the stages of grief in anticipation of that announcement.  Most seem to have reached acceptance with one game still left to play.

There is a myopic tinge to their acceptance though; many of the Iowa fans I talk to are resigned to Greene's departure but quick to point out how effective Jewel Hampton has been this season.  Yes, like much of this season, Hampton has been a pleasant surprise.  And yes, winter will eventually break, next fall will eventually come, and Iowa will eventually find a new halfback, whether it is Hampton or Brinson or Wegher or even Paki.  But make no mistake about it: You just witnessed the greatest season by an Iowa running back since Nile Kinnick (and, let's be fair, it might have been even better than Kinnick's 1939 Heisman-winning campaign).  We can't simply adopt that oft-recited Ferentz mantra, call "Next Man In," and replace Shonn Greene.  We can't expect a sophomore understudy with a year of fill-in experience - or a freshman with no experience at all - to even approach the numbers of his predecessor.  We can't expect anyone, not even the most heralded in-state running back since Tavian Banks, to replicate the Greatest Season in the History of Iowa Halfbacks.

You're mistaking the sky for the ground.  We don't know what's ahead.  There is no horizon.

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It’s posts like these that remind me why I come here for more than just laughs. Thank you, Hawkeye State, for saying it in ways I could only dream of.

by imadirtyoldman on Dec 10, 2008 9:43 PM CST reply actions  

Awesome, just awesome

Thanks, Hawkeye State, sincerely. I’d never be able to express my thoughts about Greene as eloquently as you just did, but he deserves it so I suppose I’ll try my best:

As I said in another thread, I’m fine with Greene not being a Heisman finalists. I’d probably have him second after Colt McCoy, personally, but Bradford and Tebow are both outstanding. In the long run, whether or not he got invited to some ceremony in New York doesn’t even really matter to me. What does matter is that, with the possible exception of Robert Gallery, Shonn Greene is the best Iowa football player of my lifetime, and the best back in school history. He’s the type of player I’ll tell my hypothetical grandkids about.

I can’t even begin to describe how sad I am that this is the only season I’ll get to watch him as the starting running back for Iowa. It’s not fair. I fully understand why he should leave, but selfishly I want to watch him for another year. A year where the rest of the team can give him the season that he deserves. Maybe it’s for the best though. There’s something to be said for going out on a high note, and, as far as individual performances go, this was about as high as a it gets.

by NorseHawk on Dec 10, 2008 9:51 PM CST reply actions  

Maybe I'll have to wait until the Most Glorious Outback Bowl

But this is the first time I can remember that the star player never disappointed. Maybe Chuck Long in 1985?

Shonn Greene’s season has been unique in its excellence, utterly devoid of wackness or wankerism. We leave that to that Javon kid. Shonn brought it every day and nobody stopped him.

Yeah, it sucks that the Downtown Athletic Club ignored him, but that has more to do with what Shonn was doing 12 months ago (read: nothing any voter not named Hlas knew about) than what happened on the field. If this story happened 40 years ago, Shonn’s sitting in New York and crossing his fingers. It’s so implausible as to be literally unbelievable.

He has, let’s be honest, one more game in the black and gold, and on January 1 he’ll finish a college career with fewer than 20 games as one of Iowa’s greatest of all time. Let’s hope fate smiles on him once more before he gets his millions and grants him—and Iowa—one last win for the year.

Big ups for the post, HS.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Adam Jacobi on Dec 10, 2008 10:27 PM CST reply actions  

Uh
We were told Iowa hadn’t seen a defense like this. We were told this was where the Shonn Greene Experience would come to an end.

Who was saying that? Most of what I read in the run-up to the game seemed to consist of “Shit, I hope Greene doesn’t gash us for 150.”

Throw it to Zug!

by ReadingRambler on Dec 10, 2008 10:41 PM CST reply actions  

Excellent post

And yes, I’ve come to grips with Shonn Greene being gone next year. I am just incredibly thankful that I got to see him play in every game this season. It was truly remarkable.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 10, 2008 10:51 PM CST reply actions  

On an unrelated note

I HATE Gary Danielson with the white-hot blinding fury of 1000 supernovas. If I have to listen to 1 more minute of his constant Tebow/SEC verbal-fellatio, someone is going to die a very gruesome death.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 10, 2008 10:52 PM CST reply actions  

Of course.

Of course Danielson likes the SEC. He broadcasts only SEC games. What do you expect? I expect to Wayne Larivee to pimp the Big Ten a little bit – same diff.

Danielson is the best color guy in the business – bar none. He’s the only guy I see regularly with the knowledge, ability and quickness on his feet to break down the film (what a novel concept, I know, but bear with me) of a big play right after it happened, and tell me, the viewer, WHAT exactly happened. And he does it, seemingly, after every big play, and many less consequential ones.

"Jack Trice Stadium - Easily one of the Top 10 Stadiums in Central Iowa"

by Not Marv Cook on Dec 11, 2008 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I have such a love/hate relationship with the 2008 season.

And Shonn Greene is definitely on the love side of the equation. Great post. He has been such a joy to watch run over defenders. He’s incredible (although I don’t think you can overstate what Ladell Betts did in 2000 on a team that was improving, but average, and behind an offensive line far inferior to what Shonn had). I am in my mid 30s. I was a sophomore at Iowa when Nick Bell went crazy in Champaign. There were moments when that was the one thing watching Shonn reminded me of. Nick freaking Bell.

The reason I say that about the season though is damn, it was fun down the stretch, and it was fun steamrolling Wisconsin, and sitting with 20,000 other Hawks in the upper deck of the Metrodome watching the most one-sided football game I’ve ever seen (at least through the last three quarters), and getting back all the silly trophies, and the Penn State game was the most worked up I’ve been watching Iowa football in years, but damn. That “4” in the loss column just eats at me. 12 FUCKING POINTS. That’s how close this team was to greatness, and history, and Pasadena, and maybe even that other BCS game that’s played a week later. 12 points. Brodell doesn’t fumble the damn ball against Northwestern. Shonn picks up that 4th down against MSU. Stanzi plays the 2nd half against PItt. Iowa scores one more bleeping TD instead of settling for 3 against the Illini. It’s hard to let it go. They were so close. They were SO CLOSE.

Bellanca pointed it out time and time again. Iowa won the line of scrimmage 12 times in 12 games. 2008. I love it. I hate it. But Shonn Greene is something I will always love about this season.

A convincing win over South Carolina will make me love this season that much more. Or will it? I’m not sure.

by DonnyDonovan on Dec 10, 2008 11:18 PM CST reply actions  

"Or will it?" Yes.

Wins and losses are in the book. They goddamn suck, but they are what they are, and if you let them continue to skew your opinion of this season, you do a disservice to what this team has accomplished—especially in the face of a situation where most of teams would have given up: 5-4 and facing the top team in the nation.

For a point of comparison, looking at 2001, Iowa really shouldn’t have lost 5 games. The next year, they lost only one. We don’t lament what happened in ’01, we celebrate what happened next, and I have a good feeling 2009 will be similarly fruitful.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Adam Jacobi on Dec 10, 2008 11:32 PM CST reply actions  

The Hawks have so few players leaving.

It’s oh so sad that it happens to be mostly their best players.

Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!

by tyger1147 on Dec 11, 2008 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Not true...

Only Greene is not replaceable with comparable talent. The rest will be replaced by arguably guys who will be better next year…though some might argue King is not replaceable due to his leadership…that is the bigger loss…his leadership on that D. I would be SHOCKED if we lose more than 2 games next year and not surprised at all to win the Big 10 and lose only once.

"I want to rush for 1,000 or 1,500 yards, whichever comes first."
- George Rogers, one-time South Carolina RB

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 12, 2008 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Just curious...

Looking at next year’s schedule…assuming we get through the in-state and non-conference games unscathed and assuming you are chalking up a Loss at Ohio State, who is the other loss? We are at Penn State, at Wisconsin, at Michigan State. The home schedule is a joke, so I am guessing it has to be one of those 3.

Who do you think we will lose to next year? Just curious.

Go Hawks!

by CUNKNNK on Dec 15, 2008 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Feels like a euology for a fallen hero

This has intensified my love for Shonn Greene, Hawkeye football, BHGP and the USA.

Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon....

by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Dec 10, 2008 11:34 PM CST reply actions  

Shonn!

Awesome Post and it is easy to say Iowa could have won their 4 losses but they easily could have lost to Iowa State and Penn State. I was just happy to see the team finish on a high note and the fact Shonn Greene, running behind a solid Oline, carried this inept KOK offensive system to a 8-4 record is one of the biggest achievements that I have seen from a Hawkeye football player ever.

I think you made strong arguments for Greene to win the award or at least get invited. When did the media become so QB obsessed? I actually think Michael Crabtree is the best player in college football but WRs never get any love.

Shonn cemented his place in Hawkeye history and oh, Nick Bell was a bad ass too.

What? They don't have TV in the D-League? Don't watch me, watch TV.

by Mac G on Dec 10, 2008 11:41 PM CST reply actions  

Heisman Invite

See, I would have been fucking pissed if Crabtree got invited and Shonn didn’t. The only reason I don’t mind is that they only invited 3 guys and Greene was never going to crack the top 3.

Harrell would most likely have been the 4th invitee, and then you gotta go with Greene at #5 ahead of Crabtree…..

Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon....

by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Dec 11, 2008 12:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

You’ve got to feel for Harrell, who has had just as good a season as McCoy and Bradford, and would almost certainly be there if (1) they would have stayed within 2 touchdowns of Oklahoma, and (2) Michael Crabtree wasn’t so hooked into the hype machine and sapping votes from him in the Ken Dorsey-Willis McGahee nightmare scenario come back to life.

And thanks, everyone, for the praise. It’s funny the things that rumble through your mind when you spend a Wednesday driving around eastern Iowa. It’s cold, it’s gray, and I love the bastard.

Oops Pow Surprise: "I'm stuck writing at the Titty Barn."

by Patrick Vint on Dec 11, 2008 1:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Reading this

makes me suddenly realize what I love about Shonn’s style of running. It isn’t comparing him with the other great backs from Iowa, or even in the Big Ten.
Shonn plays the game like Bob Sanders.
It just struck me, that’s the guy he reminds me of. Absolutely no regard for anything but the play. I can only hope that he is as successful as Bob at the next level, while managing to avoid the injury problems that come with playing like that.

by chitownhawkeye on Dec 11, 2008 1:12 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

That's a pretty interesting comparison.

Not the absolute best athlete out there, but one of them. Not the biggest, played like it. And as you said, every single play they’re out there.

Viva la nuance! Reading comprehension rules!!!

by tyger1147 on Dec 11, 2008 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Thank you Hawkeye State

Thank You Shonn Greene. You will always be MY Heisman winner. I can’t imagine driving across the state/states for all those games without you on the team (I even slept in my car on my way back from Chicago to catch the jNU game). I can’t imagine tailgating in and sitting in the especially crappy weather this year without getting to come home and brag to all my (Husker and ISU) friends about what the Greene Machine did in Iowa City each week. Sure Iowa City and Kinnick are always fun, and will be again next year, but this really was something special.

I can’t possibly say how I feel any better than Hawkeye State already did. I just wanted to say I am proud to be a Hawkeye and this year it is mainly because of Shonn Greene.

2008 will always be the year of Shonn Greene in my book.

Go Hawks!

by CUNKNNK on Dec 11, 2008 1:58 AM CST reply actions  

The Sound and The Fury

Power, passion, and precision – that’s Shonn Greene. I’ve never seen a Hawkeye, or anyone else, run quite the way Shonn does. I’ve also never seen anyone even attempt to tackle him as adroitly as you just did, HS. Thanks for saying what we were all thinking — in the year of the thousand year flood; we had the thousand year back.
This is why we’re the best.
Thanks, man.

by jebushchrist on Dec 11, 2008 3:39 AM CST reply actions  

disgusted and sadden by the complete utter dissing and disrespect of a truely great year by a very humble guy. this continual praising of the unworthy holier than thou tebust media love is disgusting. this is an award for the highest performance by a player NOT A TEAM. tim tebust isnt even in the top 20 or maybe 50 of qb stats yet we have to listen how the media has crowned him christ the king.

to only invite 3 players is a disgrace to college football. first we see the BS system totally ruin the justification of fairness of seasons end and now we throw in the heisman. nile kinnick must be rolling in his grave at what the heisman has turned into

colt mcCoy and Bradford are deserved nominees, tim tebust who will not play one down in pro football as a qb what a joke. that the award is now a popularity contest and the fact that no defensive guy is even counted in as being the best player in football is disgusting too

we iowa fans arent proclaiming that shonn greene should win the heisman but when you give tim tebust the heisman last year when hes team had 4 losses and got beat by a BIG TEN TEAM that was much maligned, then shonn deserves to be invited. and then this year tebusts team is very good but the nominees stats are not heisman worthy…how ignorant does the media think we are?

Im truely disgusted by it all. god forbid if you invite the big ten player of the year, the offensive player of the year, the only player to (maybe) get 13 straight +100 yard games with the D stacking the line, the doak campbell winner because HE PLAYS FOR A TEAM THE MEDIA DOESNT GLORIFY week by week

shonn greene had a remarkable year and by god then we iowa fans are going to give him his own due! thank you shonn for your great year. WE DO RECOGNIZE what you did even if the media is a bunch of pigs

by kinnickcolt on Dec 11, 2008 6:01 AM CST reply actions  

Heisman? Shonn don't need no stinking Heisman!

Great job Hawkeye State, excellent post. I don’t believe Shonn is being disrespected by not being invited to New York. He will still receive more individual accolades than any other player this year: he will be 1st Team All American on pretty much all the lists, cleaned up all the Big Ten Honors, will win the Doak Walker award tonight, and, most importantly to him, I would like to think, a game in which a smattering of fans dressed in green in his honor. Just like Betts in 2000 I am left to wonder, what if? What if this team was the seasoned vets this year that they will be next year. Betts ran behind 5 all-american pro prospects, but they were young, the team had the talent but not the experience. Same with this year. Greene did it with a largely inexperienced line, all be it an awesome one.

Midwestern is an awesome way to describe his running style. I describe it as violent and punishing. He is the most violent runner I have ever seen, and I believe it cost him yards and td’s. He was a quaking-db-seeking missile and sometimes that db happened to trip him up by falling on the ground in the fetal position. We saw that he could run away from people, but that’s not his style and I love it.

He had a truly special year and Heisman invite or no he will get his respect. I am glad that I was along for the ride in Kinnick each week.

BTW, my brother and I came up with Shonn Greene facts because I was sick of hearing about Superman and his fucking Tebow pajamas. Anyone interested in seeing them?

by shada's revenge on Dec 11, 2008 7:13 AM CST reply actions  

JIm Brown

I think Bellanca is the one who first brought up this comparison, and from what I remember, it is spot on. At the beginning of the year, when Shonn would (finally) get tackled, we would hold our breath waiting for him to get off the ground. In fact, after the criminally blatant cheap shot by jNWU, he didn’t. But by the end of the year, you didn’t worry so much, because he always slowly got up as HS described, went back to the huddle, and did it all over again. Classic Brown.

My favorite Iowa back until now has always been Sedrick Shaw. He’s a distant second now. I’ll never forget the thrills Shonn Greene has given me this year, his humble acknowledgment of the praise, and his deflection to his offensive line.

Great write up, Hawkeye State, I can’t wait for January 1 to see some Cocks get blown up.

by iceberg on Dec 11, 2008 8:03 AM CST reply actions  

Thanks HS, that was a great way to start my day.

Like JHC said, no one has tackled Shonn as adroitly as you have in this post. And your opening paragraph makes me miss Iowa (in a good way).

by Bucketochicken on Dec 11, 2008 8:24 AM CST reply actions  

Thanks Hawkeye State

I’m glad I get to see Greene wear a UI uniform one more time, then hope he has a long, prolific career for a decent NFL team. Bellanca may have an idea what his draft status is, but I’m guessing he’s a late 1st (?), lessening his chance to go to a horrible, no hope team (please, no Raiders, Lions, Bengals). I don’t like the Cowboys, but live in Dallas and it would be fun to watch him up close.

Did Greene deserve a NY invite? Sure. But CBS has the ess eee cee contract, and they made sure Tebow got the lovin’. When he’s interviewed I mute the sound so I don’t have to listen to him say “…. bless you ..” at the end. About the Heisman voting, " . . . I just want to sit down and pray about it and look at it and try to do the best thing."

Fuck me.

The Heisman has the quarterbacks for the 2 teams playing in the NC game, and another quarterback who should win among the 3 for what the award represents. I don’t even think it’s bullshit – it’s a reflection of what the award is, and whoever the hell the voters are they will be lazy. Oklahoma played 3 straight 7:00 pm Sat games at the end of the year, hanging 60+ each time (way to go Bobby) – Greene was mostly playing at 11:00 am central with 1/2 his games on the black hole network.

At the start of the season, if someone had told us Iowa’s RB would (hopefully) win the Doak Walker award and fans would be upset he didn’t get a Heisman invite, you would have laughed your ass off. 8-4, has been fun and frustrating. It feels better than 6-6 2 years ago, walking into the Alamo Bowl with what I was sure was going to be an Epic Greenwood. Now though, this looks like the right direction. And the way Greene has carried himself, little showboating, humble in the dumbass interviews after games (has anyone ever seen a real interview with him?) he seems like a guy we want to point to as representative of the football team we care about (ala Bob Sanders). So thank you, and please put up 200+ on usc.

by txhawkeye on Dec 11, 2008 8:45 AM CST reply actions  

Shonn's revenge

It’d really be nice if there was some way Shonn could just go out and shove it up some Heisman voter’s ass.

What’s that? Steve Spurrier is a voter? That’s convenient.

by jobi wan kenobi on Dec 11, 2008 9:18 AM CST reply actions  

ESPN.com has a consolation prize for Shonn

By having him on the front page for the time being.

by Duez I say on Dec 11, 2008 9:36 AM CST reply actions  

shonn got 'jobbed

greene was by far the best RB we faced this year. the guy was relentless-the only person who could stop him was navarro bowman (who did). shame the other 10 couldn’t.

while he might not have taken home the hardware, he should have definately been in the running.

is he coming back?

http://glassesofjoe.blogspot.com/

by psudrozz on Dec 11, 2008 10:37 AM CST reply actions  

Not saying, but in a word, no. 23 years old. Time to move on.

by txhawkeye on Dec 11, 2008 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Off topic, but had to share this

A true story.

I wore a Mitch King jersey to work today. I was standing in the hallway and was approached by one of our consultants. The following conversation ensued:

Consultant: “Is that uh……Polamalu?”

Me: “Nope. It’s an Iowa jersey. Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year, Mitch King.”

Consultant: “Oh, like a modern day…….uh…….(struggles to think of name)……”

Me: [blank stare]

Consultant: “What was that Illinois linebacker with the mullet?”

Me: “Uh…..J Leman?”

Consultant: “Haha, yeah! A modern day Leman!”

Me: [utterly speechless]

That just happened.

Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon....

by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Dec 11, 2008 10:46 AM CST reply actions  

Is your company hiring?

I would love to be able to wear Iowa jerseys to work – where everybody knows Freedom’s name.

by Duez I say on Dec 11, 2008 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

By the way, the consultant is an Illinois fan

I don’t have pictures of Leman hanging up in my office* or anything like that.

The funny thing is that if I didn’t frequent this site, I would have had no fucking clue who he was talking about.

Thanks BHGP!

*cubicle

Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon....

by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Dec 11, 2008 11:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Harmon

I think that Ronnie was from Long island, not N.J.

by Kmurp on Dec 11, 2008 12:30 PM CST reply actions  

Great Post

Total money shot. Also, in the MSU game on 4th and 1….the LB didn’t guess right, Wade Leppert went the wrong way leaving one man unblocked. Mental mistake. Costly.

"I'm not doing any good back here."

by Hawkaloogie on Dec 11, 2008 12:52 PM CST reply actions  

I was at 8 games this year....

7 or the 8 of them being wins. This is the first year where I can have memories of plays permanently engrained in my brain, most of them involve Shonn. The 34 yarder against Wisconsin when no one could touch him, both TDs against Penn State, the 75 yarder against Purdue and TD where he completely TRUCKED the Purdue back, all of them replaying constantly in my head. I have never seen a running back who I have had so much fun just watching. Thanks for the memories Shonn.

by Argulor on Dec 11, 2008 4:17 PM CST reply actions  

priceless….Is your company hiring? I would love to be able to wear Iowa jerseys to work – where everybody knows Freedom’s name.

ps. gary danielson IS THE WORST color commentator ever. if you want to hear all about florida gaturd love 24/7 and the nonending tebow/tebow/tebow(LOVED THAT YOUTUBE in the middle of the article) tebow/tebow/TEBOW/tebow then hes your man. I mute that jackass the second the game starts because I live in florida and listening to the worlds worst fans is like a million little gary danielsons and the clone button is stuck on

by kinnickcolt on Dec 11, 2008 5:43 PM CST reply actions  

Any other result would have destroyed the universe....

but unfortunately, I feel the same is destined to occur with the NY Downtown Athletic Club’s big award, the Tebow.

Oh, haven’t you heard? They renamed it. John Heisman just ain’t doin’ it these days. Apparently, when he coached and played, he didn’t ‘fire up’ the team like Tebow, or take on an LB in the hole like Tebow, or throw spot-on seven yard slants like Tebow.

So there you go: Heisman’s out, Tebow’s in. It’s really only fair, since Tebow has been proclaimed the GREATEST COLLEGE FB PLAYER OF ALL-TIME by Danielson and a few other utterly non-biased media hacks.

Colt McCoy should win this year. Without Colt, Texas is about 7-5. Without Tebow, Florida is, oh, about 10-2.

But Tebow will win. Why?

BECAUSE HE’S TEBOW!!

To make matters worse, as a prior winner HE EVEN GETS TO VOTE.

I guess that explains the reason why Jesus is likely to get more votes than Shonn this year. Jesus had a good year, sure, but SHONN is the one who face-planted a poor DB into the turf against Purdue.

If only Tebow was all-knowing, too…..

If it's not too much trouble, search your soul--and then ask yourself if maybe I might have a point.

by The Director on Dec 11, 2008 7:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Tebow

Is a great, great player. He’s also a great leader, a solid citizen, and he’s devilishly handsome. With so many negative stories following athletes around, it’s nice to have someone nice discussed by the national media. However, he has 15 fewer TDs and 1,000 fewer yards than last season, so he isn’t going to win the Heisman again. And no one will be more OK with that than Tebow.
So can we move on?

by jebushchrist on Dec 12, 2008 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Besides

Tebow doesn’t need to win the Heisman (again), he’s already won at life.


*This picture really isn’t relevant, other than the wonderful “attributes” of the fine young lady pictured.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 12, 2008 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

But Tebow IS going to win the damn thing

I like Tebow, actually; he’s a good kid who does good things on and off the field.

HOWEVER

I absolutely CANNOT STAND the media frenzy over him, which is going to give him the Heisman over a more deserving candidate, namely, Colt McCoy.

A not-too-minor part of my all-consuming bitterness related to the UTTER LACK of knowledge nationally about the great Shonn Greene story, and the lack of love Shonn got outside of the B10. The fact that there remained any suspense about him winning the Doaker speaks to that.

It’s the media I’m pissed about, not Tebow the man himself. And by ‘media’ I mostly mean ESPN and CBS’s Gary Danielson.

I will be shocked if Tebow doesn’t win the award. Really.

If it's not too much trouble, search your soul--and then ask yourself if maybe I might have a point.

by The Director on Dec 12, 2008 5:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree...Tebow is in the bag.

Heisman voting is regional and more or less based on population of the region—larger the population, the more news outlets, the more votes. Ironically, the northeast, which is mostly indifferent to college football, has the greatest number of voters. Typcially the northeast voters go for the player who is on TV the most, in the biggest game(s), and receive the most press coverage. That’s Tebow, followed by Harrell and Crabtree thanks to the Leach curiosity factor (he received several write-ups in the NY TImes this fall). But it is unlikely anyone up there believes Harrell is more deserving than McCoy or Bradford. So, my pick is Tebow in a close win or loss. McCoy will have fewer votes than anyone expected (I believe — for some reason — that Harrell splits the vote with McCoy). Since Tebow won it last year he gets votes just for name recognition, even with this group. My sense is Tebow shocks the world and wins it a second time. Although that might hurt him, the old two time winner thing. Many voters just might avoid him for fear of undermining Heisman history and the “Archie is the only two time winner” myth.

Tebow is a super close vote. He will win all the south votes, most of the northeast votes. Bradford and McCoy look for craps in the southwest and divide all those up, the west goes for Bradford most likely and the midwest goes for McCoy and Tebow most likely. Other than the south, all the regions will be split and that helps Tebow.

We’ll see. But the Heisman (for some reason) rarely goes to an NFL ready prospect, so that would eliminate Bradford.

"I want to rush for 1,000 or 1,500 yards, whichever comes first."
- George Rogers, one-time South Carolina RB

by StoopsMyAss on Dec 13, 2008 8:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Wow wow wow.

I want to read the rest of the posts in the thread. I really do. But I just keep scrolling up to the lower 1/2 of that picture. Over and over and over and over.

by DonnyDonovan on Dec 12, 2008 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

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