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The Takeaway: Oregon State

Sure, Oregon just beat Oregon State, 65-38. But how much do we really know? What was really important about Oregon State losing? What does it all mean, Basil? The Takeaway has the answer.

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Thank you, Oregon. Order and sanity have been restored to the BCS scene--or, at least, one part of it--after Oregon murderated their cross-state rivals last night. With the Beavers' loss, USC is once again the rightful heir to the Pac-10's Rose Bowl spot, and one more at-large bid is open for the rest of the BCS.

That bid will go to either Boise State or Ohio State, or in other words, Ohio State. The Buckeyes' departure to the BCS means that there are essentially three teams competing for two remaining New Year's Day Bowls: Michigan State, Iowa, and just Northwestern. Since Northwestern doesn't take anyone to bowls ("butbutbut we travel decently to good bowls!" Shut up. Roll thick to the Sun Bowl, then you can start complaining about getting passed up), the two big-time bowls will be choosing between Iowa and Michigan State.

What's in my wallet? A couple receipts and an expired condom. Why do you ask? The Capital One Bowl has the first pick after the BCS is done plucking their usual two teams from the SEC. The no-brainer pick here is Georgia, the only remaining SEC team to win six conference games. Georgia is tough up front on both sides of the ball, and Knowshon Moreno, while No Shonn Greene, is still really damn good. Also, Matt Stafford can make any throw on the field, especially to his cadre of freakishly athletic wideouts.

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Fortunately, Georgia has a remarkable tendency to shit all over themselves in big games, as evidenced by The Motherfucking Funeral (41-30, not nearly that close) and TWLOCO (49-7, about that close). Their secondary can be torched, and as evidenced by their "tackling" against Georgia Tech, where the Yellow Jackets racked up almost 450 yards of rushing, they can't tackle either. Shonn Greene vs. Georgia Defense = IMMINENT LOL.

 

So does Iowa really want to face Georgia? Eh, maybe. The Dawgs are beatable--really really beatable if you're Florida--but they're also the only team Iowa could possibly face that has any shot to beat the Hawks by a substantial margin. You don't want to see this season go out on one last sour note for Greene and the seniors. So I'd be fine if the Cap One people went for Michigan State instead and Sparty got absolutely wrecked.

No rules (not even late hits), just right. Then there's the Outback Bowl, which has always been BHGP's favorite bowl game of all time. Its main drawback is the early kickoff time: 10 AM CDT, which is downright criminal after New Year's Eve festivities. And by festivities I mean drinking, cigars, heroin and hookers. Auld Lang Syne straight up in that ass.

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The Outback and Cotton Bowls have an interesting setup with the SEC, where the best remaining SEC West team heads to Dallas for the Cotton Bowl, while the SEC East sends its best remaining squad to the Outback. Ole Miss is a prohibitive favorite for the Cotton Bowl, and the "best" candidate for the Outback is 7-5 South Carolina.

South Carolina is not very good. Their four conference wins came against Mississippi, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Arkansas. In other words, decent, shit, shit supreme, and back to regular shit. They barely beat Wofford. Wofford, people. They closed out the season with two road games, at Florida and Clemson, and lost them both by a combined score of 87-20. Iowa's last road game, by comparison, went a little better.

A charitable way to describe South Carolina's offense would be "anemic." I say it's charitable because we omit the words "completely fucking" before it. They rush for under 100 yards a game, and the Ol' Dirty Ballcoach has probably figured out that none of his quarterbacks are, y'know, capable; they've thrown 24 interceptions this year, a fact that probably makes the Iowa secondary giggle. Still, Ol' Dirty is an innovative passing coach, and giving him a month to figure out how to attack the Iowa zone (by which I mean attack the slow white safeties) is worrisome.

Above all, the Cocks don't do anything particularly well, except keep games close against teams not named Florida or Clemson. I would imagine the Hawks would be favored by a touchdown or so, and should win by about twice that much. Bowl season is weird, wild stuff, of course, but Iowa's got a better record than most about showing up to play. We'd be happy with this matchup, of course, just as we've always been happy about the Outback Bowl, the finest bowl in America, sponsored by the finest restaurant chain in the world. Eat at Outback Steakhouse. Every day.

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Does this mean

that the MancottOutback SuperAmazingBestThingEverCelebration is on?

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Nov 30, 2008 4:34 PM CST reply actions  

Iowans eat more Bloomin' Onions per capita than any other state

Even Mississippi.

Clearly this is reason enough to choose the Hawkeyes for the Outback.

Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon....

by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Nov 30, 2008 10:19 PM CST up reply actions  

There’s still the possibility of only one BCS team for the Big Ten, although it’s not likely. The scenarios:

- USC beats UCLA, but Boise State (or, far less likely, Ball State) gets taken over Ohio State. Very unlikely, given that Ohio State travels well.
- USC loses to UCLA (don’t laugh, it happened two years ago) and still goes ahead of Ohio State (or Boise State gets picked ahead of both). This seems plausible; USC’s losses would both be to far worse teams than either of OSU’s, but one of those OSU losses was to USC early on. (Travel considerations: does anyone have any idea how USC travels, given that they’ve gone all of 15 miles the past five years? Probably well; after all, there’s a reason disgruntled UCLA fans call them the University of Spoiled Children.)

But it’s looking more likely that both your team and mine will be playing on New Year’s. I don’t really care which one we get; it’s a January game either way and beating the hell out of South Carolina would probably be more fun than watching Georgia and MSU playing against each other when both have played horribly against top competition.

by SpartanDan on Dec 1, 2008 12:05 AM CST reply actions  

For what it's worth

USC traveled well when they played Iowa in the 2003 Orange Bowl; in fact, they traveled much better than the bowl reps had thought, what with their school already located in paradise.

Oops Pow Surprise: "I'm stuck writing at the Titty Barn."

by Patrick Vint on Dec 1, 2008 12:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Wait

South Central L.A. is “paradise”?

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Dec 1, 2008 1:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Ralphie May

I live in the bad part of L.A. called “L.A.”

by Duez I say on Dec 1, 2008 7:17 AM CST up reply actions  

USC travels?

Is that a joke? I thought Hawk fans outnumbered USC fans about 3-1 when I was down there.

by Internet Legend on Dec 1, 2008 12:52 PM CST up reply actions  

If I remember right

There were only two or three sections that actually sported USC colors at that game while me and 80,000 of my best friends rocked the black and gold….

by MP hawkfan on Dec 1, 2008 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't Forget L(oser)SU

L(oser)SU is also 7-5 (despite a 3-5 conference record) & you gotta think the Outback Bowl reps might be licking their bloomin onion-stained lips at hosting a rematch of the ’05 Cap One Bowl. I say … bring on “The Hat”.

Discuss.

by TexasHawkeye923 on Dec 1, 2008 1:11 PM CST reply actions  

As I understand it, the Outback takes a preference to SEC East teams, which LSU is not.

by SpartanDan on Dec 1, 2008 11:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Sort of, but it doesn't disqualify LSU

The Outback has their first choice of SEC East teams, but they don’t have to take an SEC East team. The only way they can take one from the West, though, is after the Cotton Bowl selects their team from the West first (obviously, there’s no sense in both bowls switching division loyalty). Ole Miss is essentially a lock for the Cotton Bowl, which means the Outback can take their first pick from the East (South Carolina, 7-5, 4-4) or take the West’s leftovers (LSU, 7-5, 3-5).

Anything else we can help you with?

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Adam Jacobi on Dec 2, 2008 6:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Fair enough

How does the Chick-Fil-A bowl fit in there? From what I understand, they pick in the same “tier” as the Cotton and Outback; I wonder which gets priority if they both want the West team after the Cotton Bowl picks. The explanation at the SEC web site makes it look like the Chick-Fil-A picks after both, but I don’t see why it would be listed together if they always pick after.

by SpartanDan on Dec 2, 2008 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Tampa Tribune

Says most likely is South Caroina. Currently firing coaches

by txhawkeye on Dec 2, 2008 10:09 AM CST reply actions  

I think Northwestern will be chosen ahead of Iowa...

Discounting NW so easily doesn’t sound right. As a fan commented:

NU 9-3, Iowa 8-4. NU 22- Iowa 17, in Iowa City, on Homecoming. Check your history: a team with a BETTER overall record (NU) who also beat head-to-head the team below it (NU 22-Iowa 17), has NEVER been jumped in Big Ten Bowl selection

http://www.rivalryesq.com/2008/12/1/676548/and-you-were-worried-about

by Graham Filler on Dec 2, 2008 6:08 PM CST reply actions  

That's fine, but this is a matter of selling tickets

And Iowa’s not going to get passed up for a team that’s just Northwestern.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Adam Jacobi on Dec 3, 2008 4:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Considering that Iowa draws fans (while Northwestern can’t sell out their oversized high school stadium – and that’s with half the stadium being filled by visitors), fans = money, and the reason Northwestern’s overall record is better is because they played absolutely no one in non-conference (best win was probably Duke) while Iowa played one solid team (currently tied for second in the Big East) and lost by 1 … I wouldn’t be surprised to see it happen. (The win over PSU is also a huge point in their favor – Northwestern got run over by OSU and MSU, and only beat two bowl-eligible teams, one of which was on a game-ending pick-six against the most fraudulent 7-5 team since … well, two years ago. Iowa has three wins over bowl-eligible teams, one of them being over the champion, and never got blown out.)

The decision might be closer than everybody thinks, but I think Iowa will get the nod.

by SpartanDan on Dec 3, 2008 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree

The decision may be closer than everybody thinks, but it’s one that’s already made regardless. And JNU is Just Heading to San Antonio.

by imadirtyoldman on Dec 3, 2008 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

"The decision might be closer than everybody thinks"

Any more meaningless, unprovable statements you feel like getting out there?

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Adam Jacobi on Dec 3, 2008 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Need someone to help me out here...

2005 season Iowa lost to Michigan at home in OT, on black out saturday. Yet they were chosen over Michigan in bowl selection. Did they have similar records in either the big ten or overall? Because otherwise it HAS happened before.

by Argulor on Dec 3, 2008 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

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