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The Takeaway: Minnesota

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We'll miss this shithole.

Sure, Iowa just downed the Gophers, 55-0. Which was awesome. But how much do we really know? What was really important about beating Minnesota? What does it all mean, Basil? The Takeaway has the answer.

It's not who hits first, it's who hits hardest. You know how in boxing matches, once one guy's down for the count or is otherwise so thoroughly beaten into a pulp that he can't defend himself, they call the match? What if boxing matches were mandated to go four rounds, no matter what, and it just ended up with one guy punching the other in his listless face over and over for the last half of the match?

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(Note: it took an incredible amount of editorial restraint to not put the post-fight picture here instead. You know what happens next anyway.)

Well, that would be a close approximation of what transpired at the Metrodome. Minnesota was fierce in their opposition in the first fifteen minutes; the score was 3-0 Iowa at the first break, and the game looked tight. The next field goal kept it at a one-possession game, and pants were still securely fashioned on Hawkeye fans everywhere.

Oh, but this is DJK's world, and Shonn Greene is the sun it spins around. The two token black guys on Iowa's offense went berserk in the second frame, including accounting for all three plays (16 yard rush, 48 yard catch, 9 yard rush TD) on Iowa's first TD drive of the game. Meanwhile, Iowa's defense had effectively beaten Minnesota's offense into submission; Minnesota's only two first downs of the entire half came on their first, fruitless drive. By the time Adam Weber threw the sweet touchdown to Amari Spievey, who just so happens to not play for Minnesota at all, the game was effectively over, and all that remained was two quarters of Iowa standing over Minnesota and punching them in the face over and over. The final tally, of course, was 55-0, the worst beating in modern series history.

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Minnesota's leading rusher was someone named Mike Maciejowski with 13 yards on two carries.

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I have nothing to add to this.

If Shonn Greene isn't invited to New York, the Heisman ought to be discontinued. Look, we know Greene's not going to win the Heisman, no matter how many polls we screw with on ESPN. The Heisman's going to some QB in the Big XII South, and for good reason; all three of those guys have put together the best seasons of the year, without question.

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The safety ended up diving on the ground in front of Greene, who trucked him anyway.

But at the same time, Greene put together a mammoth season, the best of anyone in the Big Ten, the best by any tailback in the nation, and the best by any tailback at Iowa ever.  If Heisman voters are still uninformed about Greene, blame the publicity ghetto that is the Big Ten Network, which does more damage to the Big Ten's national reputation than any East Coast bias on ESPN ever could. So blame the BTN. But do not punish Greene by leaving him at home when it comes time to hand out the best individual trophy in all of sports.

Oregon State needs to cut this shit out. Look, congratulations to the Beavers for defeating the Trojans and sparing us the usual tired LOLVAGSEX jokes that come when USC wins that game. Seriously, thank you for that. But please just go ahead and lose to Oregon so USC can go to the Rose Bowl like they're supposed to.

Here's the way the BCS standings look right now (via Fox Sports):

BCS Standings
Rk Team W-L Harris Coaches CPU % BCS
Rk Points % Rk Points % Prev Avg
1 Alabama 11-0 1 2839 .9961 1 1518 .9954 .9700 1 .987
2 Texas 10-1 4 2577 .9042 4 1370 .8984 .9600 3 .921
3 Oklahoma 10-1 3 2598 .9116 2 1412 .9259 .9000 5 .912
4 Florida 10-1 2 2644 .9277 3 1401 .9187 .7800 4 .875
5 USC 9-1 5 2387 .8375 5 1288 .8446 .7100 6 .797
6 Utah 12-0 8 2113 .7414 7 1153 .7561 .8600 7 .786
7 Texas Tech 10-1 7 2118 .7432 8 1073 .7036 .8900 2 .779
8 Penn State 11-1 6 2187 .7674 6 1157 .7587 .7300 8 .752
9 Boise State 11-0 9 1901 .6670 9 1033 .6774 .6300 9 .658
10 Ohio State 10-2 10 1827 .6411 10 994 .6518 .5700 10 .621
11 Georgia 9-2 13 1607 .5639 13 842 .5521 .6900 11 .602
12 Oklahoma State 9-2 12 1621 .5688 12 858 .5626 .5800 12 .570

There are 10 BCS spots available. The title game will, barring any unreasonable insanity (cough), include Texas and Florida (sorry, but Alabama's not the best team in the nation, and we're about to find that out). Once the Big XII (Fiesta) and SEC (Sugar) replace their conference obligations in their bowls, there will be two at-large spots remaining. Utah, at #6, must take one. Texas Tech, being the third Big XII team in the list, is very unlikely to take the other (though it's not impossible if the conference has a team in the BCS Championship game). So then the last spot would be up for grabs between Boise State and Ohio State, and frankly, we don't see any scenario where a bowl would elect to bring in Boise's fan base over Ohio State's.

Oh, but then there's USC at #5, by far the highest-rated Pac-10 team, but second in the conference standings while Stupid Fucking Oregon State rolls through the rest of the utterly hapless bunch out west. If Oregon State finishes their season with a win against Oregon this weekend, they go to the Rose Bowl, and USC's #5 BCS rating guarantees them the other at-large spot in the BCS. We don't want that.

That would push Ohio State to the salivating Capital One Bowl, and all of a sudden it's between Iowa and Michigan State for the prestigious Outback berth. Iowa's a very attractive bowl team, to be sure, but Michigan State is the much more logical choice. Without a New Year's Day bowl, Iowa is probably relegated to the Champs Sports Bowl, where they would face, like, Virginia Tech or something. I'd prefer the #4 team in the SEC-- Ole Miss, maybe, or South Carolina or LSU. Time to put this "SEC Speed" shit to bed once and for all.

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The pig is ours once again. Suck it, Gophers.

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Jumping Sparty

Although MSU has the better record and the head-to-head victory, can Iowa still jump them for say, the Outback Bowl, or is there some sort of contractual obligation to take the team higher in the standings?

I know there was a similar situation in 2005 when the Outback took Iowa and Michigan got knocked down to the Alamo Bowl even though Michigan had the head-to-head victory and both teams were 7-5 (5-3 conf).

I understand that selections are almost entirely revenue-based, but what kind of concrete guidelines restrict the selection committees?

Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon....

by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Nov 23, 2008 9:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Totally unsurprising answer: it depends.

If Ohio State is not taken by the BCS, then a team cannot jump another that is more than one game in front of them. In other words, Iowa could jump MSU but not OSU.

If Ohio State is taken, then the conference is no longer bound by those rules, for whatever reason. The BCS is a fucking nightmare.

As it stands, Iowa is still eligible for the Outback Bowl even if Ohio State doesn’t make it to the BCS. It’s just less likely.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Oops Pow Surprise on Nov 23, 2008 10:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

2 BCS teams really changes the rule?

My understanding was that the “2 win rule” was in effect always, regardless of the number of BCS teams the BigTen receives. Because of this we would be able to jump MSU even if OSU gets an at-large berth, I think. So, if this is, in fact, how the rule works, we could head to the Capital One bowl if Oregon wins the Civil War next weekend.

Now, like just about everyone, I have no idea how exactly the rule works. Even still, I think we jump Sparty and head to Florida because of our “rabid fan base” reputation coupled with the way the Hawks played to end the season. I also feel like the committees may use the Penn State games as a barometer of team quality. Now, that would not necessarily be fair, considering we have had other common opponents, but I think the committees will ignore our loss to Northwestern.

Also, Eric Page, formerly of Hawkmania, now running Eye on the Hawks, mentioned that during his talks with the bowl reps that Iowa was likely to jump Michigan State regardless of Ohio State’s bowl fate. And we all know that Eric Page wouldn’t lie to us.

¿Quieres chiclets?

by The Mexican't on Nov 23, 2008 10:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's possible

But I don’t think it’s likely. MSU travels well enough that there’s not a huge incentive for the bowls to make that switch. If the records were equal, the fact that you beat PSU and were more competitive in your losses might give you the edge, head-to-head be damned. But the extra win will probably be the difference.

That said, I think it’s more plausible if Ohio State does get a BCS bid, because MSU was in Orlando for the Champs Sports last year and the Capital One might decide to take a team that wouldn’t be spending their second year in a row in the city. If OSU is in the Capital One, though, I think Iowa’s chances of jumping MSU for the Outback are pretty slim.

by SpartanDan on Nov 23, 2008 11:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I understand and respect your partisanship

And really, justice being blind, MSU should go ahead of Iowa.

But money isn’t justice, and based on this from Mike Hlas, MSU’s not quite a lock:

This is written five minutes before kickoff in the Metrodome. Someone I know who knows Outback Bowl people says they have told him they think the Cap One will take an 8-4 Iowa over a 9-3 Michigan State.

Michigan State didn’t help itself by getting plastered at Penn State today.

Don’t put 10 cents on any bowl scenario tonight or tomorrow, but don’t rule this one out, either. If Iowa beats/has beaten the Gophers, that is.

Hlas has been around too long to push silly rumors, but these are still just rumors all the same. Just something to keep in mind.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Oops Pow Surprise on Nov 23, 2008 11:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

For the Capital One, I’m not surprised. MSU was in Orlando last year, so it makes sense for them to take a team who wouldn’t be spending the second year in a row in the city. That and given how MSU was destroyed in their two big games and Iowa beat PSU, Iowa might put up a better fight against Georgia. (Then again, there’s not much evidence that Georgia is in the same league as PSU or OSU – they got blown out by Florida and made things mildly interesting in the second half against Alabama after being down a billion at the half.)

In the Outback, I think the big losses by MSU would matter a little less because South Carolina is obviously not anywhere near as good as any of the teams MSU lost to. Maybe that’s just the homer in me talking, but I think MSU probably ends up in the Outback regardless of where Ohio State goes, and Iowa gets either the Capital One or the Alamo.

by SpartanDan on Nov 24, 2008 11:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My 2 cents at interpreting the BCS BS

I think Capitol One Bowl takes Big Ten #2* and Outback takes Big Ten #3* and Alamo takes #4* or higher. Since Iowa and Michigan were basically neck and neck in the standings in 2005, it could have gone either way. In this year’s case, I don’t think we can get picked over MSU. But stranger things have happened.

  • = Unless, of course, 2 Big Ten teams go to BCS Bowls. Then just increase this number by 1

P.S. Wouldn’t we drop from Outback to Alamo? I didn’t think Champ Sports Bowl was even an option.

by Duez I say on Nov 23, 2008 10:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

With Northwestern in the mix, even the Insight is still an "option"

It’s also my understanding that the Alamo and Champs Sports bowls basically split the 4th pick year by year, though it’s not on a firm rotation. That’s why you see both bowls listed as “Big Ten 4th/5th” every year instead of alternating.

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Oops Pow Surprise on Nov 23, 2008 10:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Alamo has first choice, though, right?

And Champs Sports bowl basically gets the leftovers?

Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon....

by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Nov 23, 2008 10:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The Alamo Bowl picks before the Champs this year

And will almost certainly take Iowa if they don’t jump MSU. That’s the worst case scenario. Just Northwestern is not getting picked ahead of Iowa.

by NorseHawk on Nov 24, 2008 12:17 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Alamo vs Champs Bowl Info

Isn’t it true that the Alamo and Champs bowls alternate every other year on who picks first? And this is the Champs year to pick first? I really don’t know for sure.
Not that it matters because the beavers are going to lose their teeth in the civil war and we will be playing on new years day. Even if the stinky beavers win out, I can still see Iowa jumping MSU for the outback. They have lots of reasons to do so. First, the $$$ revenue. The bowl reps won’t admit it, but they want the hawks $$$ (we’ve been saving up for two years). I’m sure they will state something like the momentum that Iowa has gained in the last six weeks and the shonn greene rags to riches (maybe even heisman candidate) story. They also have more ammo in that Penn St used MSU to wipe their asses and Iowa won. Thoughts?

by jocohawk on Nov 24, 2008 10:44 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty sure they don't just alternate every year

I don’t remember what the deal is, but it’s complicated (I think one of the two can buy the first selection or something goofy like that) and I know Marc Morehouse and others have said a couple time so far this year that the Alamo is picking first.

by NorseHawk on Nov 24, 2008 11:25 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the info

The alamo picking first actually works for me, as it’s the only bowl location I will be able to make. I don’t want the hawks to go there, but I want to see a Hawk bowl in person (last one I was at was the 1991 rose bowl). I’m torn at the moment.

K. Ferentz - "Stars are for astronomers."

by jocohawk on Nov 24, 2008 12:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Alamo isn't the worst thing in the world.

Dome is a dome, nothing impressive. Last time we played Texas, Iowa was 6-6, UT was 9-3 (I think), we were totally outnumbered due to UT campus being 70 miles away, yet managed to give them a game even with fuckage by refs on bogus ineligible tight end call. I’m still bitter. This was Spanky Colt McCoy’s freshman year and Drew Tate’s senior year meltdown. However, if you go stay in Austin, much better and more fun party town. Riverwalk defines overrated.

by txhawkeye on Nov 24, 2008 2:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What a mess

I was just reading through the BCS Selection Process and holy shit, what a big fucking headache it is.

I know OPS brought this up awhile back, but having a rule built for one specific team is a goddam joke:
4. Notre Dame will have an automatic berth if it is in the top eight of the final BCS Standings

Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon....

by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Nov 23, 2008 10:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

It would be at least plausible if it said “Any team not affiliated with a conference” instead of “Notre Dame” (although given who those other teams are, the effect would be the same).

by SpartanDan on Nov 24, 2008 11:57 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Why isn't Iowa ranked?

Coaches and AP voters honestly believe that 3-loss ACC and Big East teams are better?

by BradBanks4ever on Nov 23, 2008 10:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

With cumulative losses by what 12 pts, and the only ‘questionable’ loss being to Illinois it is a little hard to swallow. But every other team that has beat Iowa is ranked or receiving votes ahead of the Hawks, which explains it I guess. The AP has This is Mc’Sparty at 22, the Alma Mater of every on-air Big Ten Network personality at 24 and the Wanstache getting 108 votes to Herky’s 54. Righty-O, at least we have ethanol.

by Shooter McGavin on Nov 23, 2008 10:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We're not ranked

because the voters are coaches and AP voters who have no idea about what happens outside of their region. Because resume ranking doesn’t exist in the mainstream polls, so the fact that we’re a young team that lost early games due to turnovers and has gotten better is overshadowed by the big 4 Ls and “the B10 is crap” philosophy.

by chitownhawkeye on Nov 24, 2008 10:47 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I can sorta understand our not being ranked or taken too seriously

Given the past two seasons, I can see why a lot of people had written us off for dead and see anything done this year as an aberration. That doesn’t make it logical, but in the “what have you done for me lately? Who’s got got teh sexy?” world of college FB coverage, it’s no wonder we get overlooked. Plus, throw in the whole “B10 sucks” thing and, well, there ya go.

What I don’t get is the utter afterthoughtedness with which the national media treats Shonn Greene and the season he’s had. Honestly, the only reason I can think of for the lack of quality coverage and for his name not being regularly mentioned for the Heisman (like, mentioned more than Ringer or even whichever QB is third on the B12OMG list) is nothing more than plain old laziness.

by Bucketochicken on Nov 23, 2008 11:15 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

"nothing more than plain old laziness"

How often do you see BTN highlights on ESPN?

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Oops Pow Surprise on Nov 23, 2008 11:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Its good for

Watching and waiting for the live screw-ups in the morning. Oh, Hannah Storm how the scrolling bar on the side misleads you.

by Shooter McGavin on Nov 23, 2008 11:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Or Scott Van Pelt and Neil Everett at 10PM (CST)

Van Pelt is hilarious, and Everett struggling to hold it together once Van Pelt gets going makes the for great stuff. Plus, Van Pelt’s Flight of the Conchords references kill me every time. I will never get tired of hearing “It’s business time” during a highlight.

¿Quieres chiclets?

by The Mexican't on Nov 23, 2008 11:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Scott Van Pelt is alright in my book

Last night during the NFL highlights as Nate Kaeding’s 4th quarter 47-yard field goal split the uprights, SVP announced “It’s great to be a Hawkeye!”

Right you are, Scott.

Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon....

by Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride on Nov 24, 2008 9:37 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I'll tell you who does watch it:

Sportswriters looking to get a sense of the national media narrative.

Again: the BTN is an information ghetto. If Iowa-Minnesota had been on ESPN2, as per the previous Big Ten deal with the WWL, Shonn’s record-setting performance would have at least been discussed on GameDay Final, not ignored completely (did they even talk about it? because I sure missed it).

I got more rhymes than Wade Lookingbill's got dunks

by Oops Pow Surprise on Nov 23, 2008 11:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously, BTN is killing the Big 10

I don’t know if ESPN is bitter over them shooting their own games or daring to try to play in their sports media world, but this is ridiculous.

I returned from (freezing my butt off) at the Purdue game and recorded every single college football show on ESPN and Sportscenter so I could see better views of what I call the Shonn Greene Ninja Spin and Bullet Dash and then the Shonn Greene Shoulder Crush of Death. I expected them to be top plays or whatever and was shocked to not even see either of them in the various top ten lists. Shonn was the number 1 rusher in the nation that day and you would think they would show some sort of highlights but I never saw any. The only mention of it at all was Lou Hothshslsz gave him a “helmet sticker” award. The only place I could finally find the footage was on the BTN website after digging everywhere I could think of. This is a travesty that the rest of the nation isn’t seeing this stuff.

When I heard the BTN was coming out I was excited. I live in the very far western part of the state and the drive to IC all the time for games is tough sometimes. Now that the Network is out though, they don’t even carry it over here on our cable since we are “Big 12 Country” according to Cox Cable. So not only can I now not see the games on regular TV but I can’t see them on the stupid network either. When I am trying to find Hawkeye highlights and can’t, it’s easy to see that people who aren’t seeking them out are never seeing them at all. I doubt Heisman voters from the East Coast are logging onto the BTN website each week for the game coverage we used to get from ESPN and Fox.

Go Hawks!

by CUNKNNK on Nov 24, 2008 11:00 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you really surprised...

This is what ESPN does. You piss them off, they wipe you off their collective radar. This is exactly what the did when the NHL signed with Versus. As long as the Big Ten Network continues to exist off the ad revenues from Ro*tel and BW3’s, ESPN is going to limit their coverage of the conference as much as possible.
 

by three and out the kok story on Nov 24, 2008 11:11 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

M A N C O T T ! ! !

Good point on the ad revenue sustaining BTN. If we don’t buy Rotel and don’t go to BW3, maybe we can suffocate BTN’s only bit of revenue and get the Hawks back on cable.

by Duez I say on Nov 24, 2008 12:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

And Jimmy John's

Don’t forget Jimmy John’s

by storminspank on Nov 24, 2008 1:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The only problem...

…is that the Spicy Garlic sauce at BW3 is made of win.

by DonnyDonovan on Nov 24, 2008 6:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

It's more than that

They aren’t just pissed at being snubbed, they have a vested interest in the SEC with their new broadcast deal. Conflict of interest? Yes. Surprising? No.

by chitownhawkeye on Nov 24, 2008 1:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They have a broadcast deal with the Big Ten too

They get to broadcast the best Big Ten game every week. They can’t do the same with the SEC because of the CBS deal. So why is that more of a conflict of interest?

The SEC is just better than the Big Ten and has been for awhile. ESPN was hyping them as the best conference in the country before they got the broadcast rights to their games. This conspiracy-theory stuff is silly and embrassing.

by NorseHawk on Nov 24, 2008 6:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I was sorta surprised neither of those plays made the SC Top 10 too

But they did both get replayed a lot during the day on ESPN and ABC halftime and pre-game shows.

I don’t really think ESPN is out to get the Big Ten either, it’s just that the Big Ten has had a couple down years in a row. They still have a TV contract with the conference and get first pick of Big Ten games every week, it’s not in their best interests to completely ignore it.

by NorseHawk on Nov 24, 2008 11:17 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not really a "good person"....

and I have often kicked puppies and lit live kittens on fire….but I honestly felt bad for the gophers. Fans and players both. But I stil dislike you all.

by LawrenceStation on Nov 23, 2008 11:58 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I am DISGUSTED that iowa is not ranked! DISGUSTED.

excuse me while I BARF…all those crap ACC teams in front of them? and then you have LSU who is terrible and has lost 4 in a row minus the almost troy lost?

the people who put these rankings together need to be removed. disrespect and downright MORONS not to rank iowa. YOU are NOT paying attention if you dont think iowa is playing better than most of the 10-25 slots.

this is NOW JUST LAUGHABLE and SAD.

this is as bad as shonn greene and his dissrespect

bucketochicken making this comment was SPOT ON!

what I dont get is the utter afterthoughtedness with which the national media treats shonn greene and the season hes had.

has there EVER been a season where not one running back as been invited to the heisman show? I want to know? brown of UCONN got 96 yards last night. shonn is 108 yards ahead of him with his one game to go.

never and I mean NEVER has a national leader of rushing with over 1700 yards AND his team been the scrutiny of such disrespect.

it all needs to blow up in their face!

the fact that the florida bowls are waiting to PLUCK the hawkeyes over teams that finished ahead of them…well they are the only ones paying attention!

the bcs bowl predictions are a joke!

looks like the longhorns are about to get hosed along with greene

by kinnickcolt on Nov 24, 2008 4:54 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Blame Ohio State!

That they embarrased this conference in the NC game has led many national observers to discount the Big-10. It also doesn’t help that Big-10 teams rarely play tough non-conference schedules. Then you factor in the lack of concerted publicity the conference engages in. All a recipe for the lack of interest in IOWA football. I expect that we will have to take our lumps this year…us and the rest of the conference. I would be pleasantly shocked if we found our way into a New Year’s Bowl. I highly doubt it. I think Ferentz was right when he channeled Bill Parcell and said, we are what our record says we are. We had our chances and we didn’t close those games. I am just happy to have the winter practice time to develop the team and poise ourselves for a monster year NEXT YEAR. My guess, see you in the lesser Orlando Bowl (unless OSU finds a way to screw up thier rivalry game of course).

"75 percent of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Smoot." -Fred Smoot, CB, Washington Redskins

by StoopsMyAss on Nov 24, 2008 7:06 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LSU isn’t ranked – in fact, you’re getting more votes than they are in the AP. (That’s flipped in the coaches’ poll, but it’s close.)

It’s hard for voters to get past that “4” in the loss column, especially when there are so many 3-loss teams to choose from in the Atlantic Clusterfuck Conference.

by SpartanDan on Nov 24, 2008 12:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Greene deserves the attention ....

But their record is what it is. It’s not like Iowa lost to tOSU and PSU; it was Pitt (the Wannstache), MSU (in a aberration of a year for them), NW (5 turnovers, in only their 5th 9 season win in their entire football playing history), and ILL (retarded coach). I’m happy the regular season ended as it did. But the perceived lack of attention is really their (I’d say “our” but frankly I didn’t have anything to do with it) own fault, and I think KF has acknowledged as much. Voters are fat lazy bastards, and the “4” in the loss column, the wasteland that is the BTN (although sweet looking volleyball players), and the suckiness of the Big XI in general are problems. Now, before getting that far into it, I live in TX — and there are a ton of Big XII games that are not televised. I’ll bitch about the BTN a lot, but I do get to watch all of my favorite football team’s games. So I’ll mute the sound, and watch the camerapersons inability to follow play, but at least I get to see them.

by txhawkeye on Nov 24, 2008 7:57 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Congratulations, guys.

In the spirit of overanalysis, I must commend the 10 people most responsible for your victory: The Iowa offensive line and the Minnesota offensive line. Your fat kids kept Stanzi upright and unscathed most of the night, and opened holes that OPS could run through (and you guys have the Green fellow playing RB instead of OPS). Our fat kids kept your offensive line on the field enough to ground our DL into tiny pieces (with obvious help from your DL).

The era of the Metrodome ended quite appropriately. Congratulations again.

by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Nov 24, 2008 9:57 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks WhiteSpeed....

We were quite surprised as well. Minnesota clearly gave up at some point. Luckily for Brewster, loses don’t seem to affect his recruiting one bit. I think he roofies and seduces kids into the new stadium and caresses their ego right into maroon and gold. I want to hit up a singles bar with the “Punky” and see how much tail we could pull ou tof the place.

by LawrenceStation on Nov 24, 2008 12:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Bam, Baby

And on a different note, there’s no way Iowa slips past the Alamo. It’ll be either Cap One (outside chance), Outback (great chance if Oreg St loses), and Alamo (LOCKED UP).

by storminspank on Nov 24, 2008 10:56 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

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