Shonn Greene vs Javon Ringer redux

If you factor in Donald Brown from Uconn, Greene leads the country in Total Yards and Yards Per Carry right now. MSU has a bye today so that means if Brown rushes for 178 yards OR LESS, then Greene leads the country in total yards. At least for a this week.

Don’t you realize that your “facts” are meaningless? You can’t seriously expect sportscasters to make observations based on what happens on the field can you? That’s just ridiculous. Everyone knows, that all opinion must be formed prior to the season or, at the latest, by Week 2. That’s why we know Ringer is the best back in the country, because he had a shit-ton of yards versus two mediocre opponents. To try and change the conventional wisdom based on actual events since then is just sure lunacy.

Coincidentally, that’s why Juice Williams is a Heisman-like QB. Because he’s really good, despite any and all evidence since the first day of the season to the contrary.

I’d agree that Ringer’s been solid but not Heisman-good. I don’t think Greene’s been Heisman-good either, to be honest, but the main reasons Ringer’s getting more hype are 1) the quick start to the season, and 2) MSU is 9-2 and Iowa is 7-4. The Heisman is supposed to be an individual award, but in practice if your team loses more than two games, you have to pretty much rewrite the entire record book to have a prayer. As good as Greene is, he’s not rewriting the record book this year.

spartan dan- tim tebust won the heisman with 4 losses. case in point. if you are not a media ass kissing team you get dissed.

not one mention of iowa even playing today on any major network and only versus. YES VERSUS noticed that shonn had a pretty darn good day. not only did they not mention iowa score but talked about every other big ten matchup but iowa and they kept showing beanie wells and his jump run. he got 140 yards. HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLO

 the fact that he is being disrespected for a feat that nobody has ever accomplished …11 straight 100 yards game and a chance for 12 and the fact that he just took the national lead is disgusting and you better believe if a florida player(or any player for ohio state, LSU, USC, etc…you know the medias ass kissing teams) did this we would have seen it about 100 times by now

Im truely disgusted that the only way shonn greenes name gets mentioned is that if they play an opponent that is an ass kisser to their idiot polls

greene is 37 yards ahead of ringer with both of them having one game left. and ringer has to play against penn state. donald brown is 48 yards away and has 2 games left. if shonn greene gets close to 200 yards or over 200 vs one of the worst rushing Ds in the big ten- minny, he still has a legit shot(be it a small one) of winning the rushing title. both of those players has had games under 100 including ringer with 4

if you see the run of 75 yards with this spin move that fakes the defender to the ground and the last TD of him getting literaly plowed and then the defender is the one who falls to the ground while shonn keeps running its amazing. in fact it should have been one of the plays of the days. yet NOT ONE SOLITARY mention of iowa even have played a game.

the media truely has no clue what they are missing.

It has all been summarized here pretty well. The three big reasons why Shonn is likely to be second teamt:
- team overall record (not good enough to justify his importance in mind of a public that only pays casual attention to all this).
- not on nationale stage (like Harrell at Texas Tech was or any number of players who have had Saturday night games or national attention—Greene needed that to boost his national presence. I live in the East Coast and the Penn State was not on TV here because the Big Ten Network is not on Cable channels here).
- Early QB debacle (believe it or not, most of IOWA attention outside of IOWA in the early part of the season was on the QB controversy and that robbed Greene of precious hype time).

Meanwhile, Michigan State plays Penn State next weekend on ABC national and Shoone is stuck in the obscuriy of the BTN. If Greene goes ofr over 150 and Ringer is held to fewer than 100 then I think Greene is first-team Big Ten.

Neither have a shot at the Heisman and neither will even be invited to NYC. That’s just the way it is in the media run world of today. The truth is a construction.

If we were 25th in a poll, we would be seeing much more coverage, not just of Shonn, but King and An-jer-er (thanks, Brennaman). As it is, we’re relegated to the has been and wanna be pile, and kept out of polite conversation. Considering the popularity of the sport, you would think the worldwide leader would think, hey, there’s a lot of other teams out there, let’s maybe do some online analysis and clips or have a 30 minute spot on one of their networks (“The next 25” or something"). But no, top 25 or bust for team recognition.

Incidentally, the 75 yd run was Mark May’s 4th (umm….3rd? Don’t remember) top play. So that’s something.

Don’t know if anyone has seen this yet, but you can vote for Green for the Doak Walker award. Sounds like it counts for something.
http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/rank?versionId=2&listId=60

RUSHING                 Team Cl  G  Att  Yds   Avg TD Yds/G Long
 ————————————————————————————————

 1. Greene,Shonn…….. IOWA JR  7  178 1079   6.1 11 154.1   75

 2. Ringer, Javon……. MSU  SR  7  210  849   4.0  9 121.3   64

Amazing that we almost recruited all three to Iowa. Can you imagine that backfield?

So Ringer endorsed Shonn Greene for Heisman. And called Shonn “the best running back in the country right now”.

So who’s the bitch ass now? (Hint: Begins with "stormin").